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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:36 PM
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If you're NOT voting for the Dem nominee in the GE, I assume you won't be on DU dissing him/her!
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 09:46 PM by RiverStone
I am surprised to see the result's of 11 Bravo's DU poll:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2612176&mesg_id=2612176

WTF?! About 45% of DUers won't vote DEM in the General if candidate A, B, or C is nominated?!

Believe me, I really hope Hillary is not our nominee - but if she is, she has my vote. Why?

Because I don't want a right wing SCOTUS for the next generation!
Because I don't want more religion shoved into my government, schools, and home!
Because I don't want women to lose their right to reproductive freedom!
Because I don't want billions of dollars more spent to war monger, invade, control, or surge into other sovereign nations!
Because I don't want to see our country surrounded by a wall and barbed wire!
Because I don't want our privacy rights eroded to the point where we have no privacy!
Because I don't want my two teenage draft age children subject to being pawns in a reckless and dangerous foreign policy!
Because I don't want to see our planet earth further compromised by polluters, big oil, and corporations that don't give a shit!


After the Democratic Convention in Denver next August, our party will chose a nominee. I will support that nominee!

I respectfully request that if you have no intention of doing the same, please DO NOT WASTE DU BANDWIDTH dissing our party's choice for president in the GE.

I am a Democrat and will be voting that way in the General Election for President! The issues are far too compelling not to!

:kick: :kick: :kick:


RiverStone~
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:38 PM
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1. well said n/t
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:39 PM
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2. Actually, it's not.
I don't usually pop in as the spelling Nazi but this one I've got to catch: "You're" not "Your."
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:42 PM
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3. There ya go Le --- corrected.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:49 PM
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10. Thank you.
It was giving me a nervous tick. ;-)
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:03 AM
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38. No offense Le Taz...
but while we are on the subject of spelling... it is "tic", not "tick" (as in bug or clock). :)
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:26 AM
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39. Oh, of course!
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 05:59 AM by Le Taz Hot
:rofl: OK, LTH, you deserved that.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:45 PM
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5. I'm a writer and I always go for content quality over copy editing n/t
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:49 PM
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9. I'm an old-school teacher
that actually corrects spelling. I kind of insist on students knowing the difference between "you're and "your" -- particularly after the 3rd grade. It's a teacher thing. :shrug:
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:50 PM
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11. Usually I do when dealing with edited text. When dealing with adults, I look the other way
But you're and your bother me, too.

Irregardless bothers me even more. :)
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:03 AM
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36. You know what bothers me?
"Could care less."

Makes me crazy.

Don't you mean "couldn't care less?"

The you're/your its/it's thing bugs me to no end as well.

But I don't correct spelling here. Not my job.

:)
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:05 AM
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37. I'm also seeing a lot of "of" used when they mean "have"
"I would of gone there," that kind of thing.

Its and it's bothers me, but it's the kind of mistake that's easier to do than you're and your.
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:20 AM
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33. I'm a former copy editor
And doing that tedious work for a while cured me of any need to compulsively fix typos. :)
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:21 AM
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34. lol - amen n/t
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:44 PM
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4. Exactly
Anyone who chooses to work AGAINST our eventual nominee needs to do it elsewhere.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:45 PM
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6. I APPLAUD YOU! Way to go!!! nt
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:48 PM
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7. Kick!
:thumbsup:
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:49 PM
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8. These are the reasons I became a Democrat
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 09:54 PM by Xipe Totec
when Regan was nominated in the 1980 Republican primaries.

These are the reasons I am still a Democrat.

So long as the Democratic platform stands for these principled values, I will remain a Democrat.

(PS: Honored to be the first recommender for this thread)
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:00 PM
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12. Sorry, but...
...until one of our candidates wraps up the nomination, it is my right and duty as a Democrat to campaign for whoever I believe would be the best choice.

If, at that time, I find that I cannot in good conscience vote for our nominee, I'll restrict myself to non-political areas (the Lounge, DU Groups) until the election is over, and refrain from posting anything critical of that nominee, either on DU or elsewhere.

But, until then, I have every right to advocate for a preferred candidate, and/or urge my fellow party members to not choose a candidate who I may see as leading our party "off the cliff."
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:04 PM
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24. We are in agreement
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 11:06 PM by RiverStone
...until one of our candidates wraps up the nomination, it is my right and duty as a Democrat to campaign for whoever I believe would be the best choice.

Go for it! I don't want Hillary and have posted more then once she is beholden to the corporations/DLC etc. In fact, I think she would lose in the GE; I think either Edwards or Obama could win. Dissing our opponents during the primaries is called Democracy. My lean is Edwards because I think he has the best chance to WIN across regions and socio-economic groups.

Though like I said, I'm voting Dem regardless - even DLC Hillary is better than any rethug.

If, at that time, I find that I cannot in good conscience vote for our nominee, I'll restrict myself to non-political areas (the Lounge, DU Groups) until the election is over, and refrain from posting anything critical of that nominee, either on DU or elsewhere.

Thanks! I may not like your choice to NOT participate, but I appreciate your integrity! Your self-imposed restrictions make total sense (though lets hope you don't have to go there).

But, until then, I have every right to advocate for a preferred candidate, and/or urge my fellow party members to not choose a candidate who I may see as leading our party "off the cliff."

Of course! Like I said in the OP, I was referring to AFTER the convention.


peace~:)
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Kermitt Gribble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:01 PM
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13. K & R!!!!!!
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:09 PM
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14. You are correct
We are a group of people who are supposed to help Dems get elected. Even if teh Dem candidate is not our first choice I assume we could all agree it will be better than anyone on the Republican side. I look at voting as trying to put the person in office that will serve the best. I believe in most cases the Dem candidate can do just that.
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1awake Donating Member (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:11 PM
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15. So...
"I respectfully request that if you have no intention of doing the same, please DO NOT WASTE DU BANDWIDTH dissing our party's choice for president in the GE."

Not that I would withhold my vote or anything but.. are you saying those people should leave.. keep their mouths shut or.. because right now I'm kinda feelin that whole Anakin / Ben "If you're not with me, then you're my enemy!" type thing ;).

In any case, I wouldn't overly worry about those poll numbers.. perceptions will change once it gets down the road.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:17 PM
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28. please stay...but,
See post 12 & 24 in response.

And yes, I think as we get closer to November perceptions will charge. We are in the heat of the primaries after all...:)
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:19 PM
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16. No, I won't be here posting at all. I will leave the Democratic Party
and go back to being an Independent.
That's the only thing Obama inspires me to do.
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:30 PM
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19. Obama won't be able to duplicate this in a general; no Senator ever does
I wish that the media hadn't annoited Obama.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:32 PM
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21. That is why I won't be here. I will not be a part of a party that
commits suicide in grand fashion when it has the chance to secure power.
I will be so disgusted at the naivite and gullibility I will be unable to participate in any kind of rational discussion.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:12 PM
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25. Ironically, I think voting for Hillary is both...
naive and very gullible. She is the most rethuglican-like of any of our Dem candidates.

So we disagree on our primary candidate. No problem there.

But for reason's I already mentioned; ANY of our candidates will do our country and children better then ANY rethug. It may be a matter of degrees, but it is without any doubt in this voters mind the reason I'll be voting for Obama, Edwards, or Clinton (though I HOPE it's John!).
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:15 PM
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27. If you look at actual voting records Obama and Edwards are both
to the right of Hillary......and if you read their positions, Obama is still to the right of Hillary when it comes to FACTS and not rhetoric.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:20 PM
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29. Even in disagreement jlake
I hope when the dust settles next August, you will still be with us and dedicated to defeating whom ever the puke's also nominate!

We need every GE vote we can get!


peace~:)
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:24 AM
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35. You see that much difference between Hillary and Obama?
Interesting. The opposite is true for me. I can barely tell them apart.

But as I said, I'll be voting for the nominee, even if the nominee is a bag of hammers. It's either that or help the GOP by abstaining.
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:24 PM
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17. I'll vote for any Dem.
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 10:31 PM by Bright Eyes
*Edited for stupidity.*
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:29 PM
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18. Umm read it a little more carefully.
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:30 PM
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20. Damn.
:banghead:
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:36 PM
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22. Here's my take on it
If I really, really, really, had no other choice except for a Repuke, I would vote for HRC in the GE.

That said, I'd be holding my nose with a vice-grip wrench as I did so.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:50 PM
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23. I'll vote for the Democratic nominee...
... provided they are a democrat. If that's not the case, then I'll vote for the most democratic candidate - either 3rd party or write in. Sorry, but I'll not support a Dem candidate whom I believe will lead us over a cliff towards more war and corporatism...
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:13 PM
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26. I will not campaign against any Democrat on this board after the Convention-
I do so swear! That should cover it...
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:09 AM
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30. Any Dem will help us out on the first three and the last things you mentioned
Rotsa ruck on the rest. However, getting even a few of those items off our table will make it easier to preeeure the president and congress on the rest, so I basically agree.
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:15 AM
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31. I'll be voting for the nominee.
Sitting it out is no better than a vote for the GOP. There's no way I'm going to help the GOP by abstaining.

I'm no big fan of Hillary or Obama, but you can bet I'll be voting for either of them if they are the nominee - and I'll be doing so gladly. Why? Consider the alternative.

Principles are very important. But so is pragmatism. We can't always have what we really want in life. If we can't have what we really want, why not at least make sure we don't end up with a steaming platter of shit? In my view, refusing to look out for our own best interests "on principle" is both childish and self-destructive.

Yeah, this is coming from a Kucinich supporter. Go figure, eh? :)
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:17 AM
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32. I'll make my final decision a few days before the GE because we have mail in ballots.
And, since I have the quaint notion that my vote is mine to cast as I please, I will reserve that right until I cast my ballot.

I will vote for the candidate that I see as the most progressive candidate on the ballot, or use my pen to write one in.

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