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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:05 AM
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Why IS Edwards only attacking Clinton?
I'm an Obama supporter, and Edwards supporters argue with me on this site all the time. But Edwards HIMSELF is reserving his longest and sharpest attacks for Clinton. Why? She didn't win Iowa, probably won't win New Hampshire, and her star is falling on a national level.

But very few stinging remarks have been pointed in Obama's direction. Does he want to come out ahead of the guy with the greatest momentum or not?
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:07 AM
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1. And if we knew the strategy, do you think we would tell you?
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:09 AM
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3. Yes. Why wouldn't you?
Fundamentally, we're all on the same team.

I'm merely a poster on Democratic Underground--what the hell am I gonna do?
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stickernation Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:41 AM
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12. there's no MERELY about that.

Democratic Underground and its members are the very soul of the progressive movement, even the ones I spar with have my deepest respect just for BEING here.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:23 PM
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14. The thing is, some of us may NOT be merely "posters" and different campaigns do read this board.
Chris Heinz used to post here during 2004 and Elizabeth Edwards is a member who doers post.I am sure she is still lurking.Hi EE! Love ya if you read this.Don't you think if anyone who supports a particular candidate "knew" strategy they would keep it to themselves instead of publishing it for the "other " side to be able to read it and mount a defense?
Everything written here is "public".I found out the hard way when a post of mine complaining about some voter reaction and asking how to approach certain voters after a walk was used against the Kerry Camp by the WSJ picking it up and quoting it from a post here on DU. It is hard to remeber to be careful but still, we should try.Some readers may not be on the same "team" as we are!
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CarbonDate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:08 AM
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2. He doesn't want to give her supporters false hope. eom
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:11 AM
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4. b/c he knows she's wounded so she's easier to to take down, and she is
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 04:18 AM by annie1
already more susceptible to injury because of the public's opinion of her, dunno. or maybe because he doesn't have much to go after obama about. he can't say "experience" they have similar time in the senate.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:12 AM
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5. So, finish off Clinton...
...THEN target Obama?

Might be too late at that junction.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:14 AM
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6. i agree, but he's has an advantage b/c he can gang up on her...
finish her off and be 1 of 2 maybe. i agree, i always thought it would be better to go after #1 too. i dunno. i don't like it.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:18 AM
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7. Maybe you won't like this either--
--Obama and Edwards in any combination would make a formidable team against the GOP. Is it possible that Edwards HASN'T ruled out the possibility of being Obama's running mate if he doesn't beat him?
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:20 AM
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8. In a perfect (Edwards) world it would effectively knock her out and leave him one on one with Obama.
Before Super Tuesday when the big axe falls so he can really separate himself and steal the nomination out from under Barack.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:20 AM
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9. To take her out first
so he can go one on one with Obama.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:35 AM
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10. Because Clinton is more status-quo than Obama
Plus, he fights back against those who attack him--in other words, he's only been responding to HRC's attacks on him.
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stickernation Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:39 AM
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11. Clinton is very different on positions.

Obama has been VAGUE on positions, but JRE susses that they have more in common than different.

Clinton is quite obviously the no-change candidate on so many issues. She touts having "delivered" real changes with her experience, but they are simply not in evidence.

If Obama gets the nod, it will be a victory for JRE even if he gets nothing. Change will have won.

If Clinton gets the nod, it might not make much difference for the status quo. That is, of course she would be far superior to a Repugnican.

Also - let's say the "attacks" (i think they are jabs not real attacks) force Clinton to become more change-oriented.

There is always the possibility of redemption. Clinton could be serious when she swings into her new change mode (that is now the order of the day it would seem). Let's see what she comes up with ! But without such pressure perhaps she wouldn't say anything !

Let's also remember that JRE reserves his REAL attacks for those who deserve it most richly - the corporations who hold the nation by the short & curlies and game the Washington system so blatantly. Jabs on Clinton are good politics and good for the debate, he gets his share of the pummelling as well.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:43 AM
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13. Well bully for Edwards then...
...if he chooses to attack the person he most disagrees with, instead of the person who's actually ahead in important regional polls.

I like Edwards, but you'll never convert me to his side--he did too many things while in power that clash with his positions now.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:28 PM
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15. I don't see anyone trying to convert you.
:shrug:
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:37 PM
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22. Your vote is your own. Who was trying to "convert" you?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:30 PM
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16. He is shooting for VP again and doesn't want to anger Obama
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Uncle Sinister Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:41 PM
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28. BINGO!
nt
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:31 PM
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17. because she is right now the most vulnerable and he wants to be one on one with Obama.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:33 PM
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18. He simply wants to win the nomination, just like the other candidates.
It is a strategy that may work.

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melm00se Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:33 PM
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19. quite simple really:
the long term stronger candidate is probably Hillary - she is weakened now and vulnerable so Edwards is given an opening to take her out so he is taking it.

I am of the thought that Edwards is thinking that Obama's inexperience, in the long run, will cause him to slide downward and off the stage leaving Edwards as the only real viable national level candidate for the Democratic run.

Not a bad strategy...risky....but it could pay off.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:36 PM
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20. Maybe (again I say MAYBE because I don't know)
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 04:37 PM by LibraLiz1973
he genuinely views Hillary as being a major part of the problem.
As John says, there are 2 candidates for REAL change running this year... and Hillary isn't one of them.

Sticking with the status quo is only going to screw the country more. It's entirely possible, likely even, that
he is so concerned about the situation this country is in that he is willing to support Obama if he himself can not get elected.
After all, he has children of his own & I am sure he is looking at the future thinking... "IF I don't get elected, who is the next best choice?"

I think it's a moral thing.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:36 PM
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21. Because he wants Clinton to lose.
If he can't win the nominatin, he wants Obama to get it.

Maybe for a cabinet spot. Maybe on moral grounds.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:38 PM
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23. That was a short break.
lol
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:38 PM
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24. Desperation.
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CANDO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:39 PM
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25. You go after the easier target first.
Kind of like paying off your debts. You pay off the easier ones first before you tackle the toughest one.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:39 PM
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26. I only know one thing,
he's a second-to-none smart lawyer. And smart lawyers don't do dumb things.

That smile isn't there because he has no plan. Look what happened to HRC in Iowa.

A ninja isn't going to let you know he's there.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:39 PM
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27. Catching a ride on the wave.
Edwards is smart - he knows voters like Obama & want change. So, he associates himself w/Obama as the "agent of change" & attacks Hillary as the old status quo. His goal IMO is to take her out before Super Tuesday & make it a Obama/Edwards race. Worse comes to worse, he gets a spot as running-mate on the Obama ticket. It's very calculating.
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:03 PM
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29. Edwards wants a two man race, so he's attacking his nearest competition
In this way he hopes to stay alive and continue the contest, hoping that Obama will eventually stumble, or the magic will wear off, and that way he'll still have a chance.

So, what we have is John snarling at Hillary like she's the anti-Christ while at the same time shoving his nose so far up Obama's butt that if Obama moves to fast one direction or another John's nose is going to snap right off.

That's want I see. Not exactly admirable behavior, imo, but I think any of them would be fine as a President.
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