Today's poll: will you vote for the Dem candidate in the general?

No matter what, regardless of who the nominee is?

we have great candidates especially compared to the walking dead on the other side.

You must be joshin' me.

By all measures, you'd think the thought of President Huckaloon would drive everyone away from the bottom two responses, but no. :shrug:

In Kansas, for example. No matter which why I vote, the Republican will win Kansas. So the Democratic Party cannot hold the Supreme Court gun to my head. The same is probably true of many other states. Utah, Alabama, South Dakota, Nebraska, Mississippi, Montana - they all will goto the Republican no matter what one person decides to do. Then there are states like Illinois, New York, Massachusetts, Hawaii. Those will goto the Democratic candidate no matter what one person decides to do.

Can we?

The goodbye thread poster says the Obama supporters ruined DU. So it's not you! :D

It's good to have goals!

I personally do not like Obama AT ALL. But he would get my vote... and I'm not even a Democrat.

They like stirring the shit? :D

In PA you can't. Just wondering...

I do it so I can vote in the Primary, since I always do vote Dem.

In VA you don't register for a party.

However, the Clintons have annoyed me to the point that I don't know if I could vote for her if she's the candidate. Needless to say I wouldn't vote Republican, but I might write someone in.

I wish I could trust the Democrats more about other issues, but I can't.

At least not right now.

not approaching this intelectually... the ReThugs are stealing this election in the primaries. the media is directing the election.. who they display goes up in the polls..CNN did an article on that subject then turned around and proved they were doing it in the very next segment.
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who would be best?, it is the candidate that is 'disappeared'.. they fear him the most.

But he has just about no chance of winning anything, so, in effect, I'll vote for the nominee.

No matter who the nominee is, I will vote for him/her.

And as you say, we probably don't have to worry too much about Kucinich winning any primaries. :)

because his 'Charisma' is thin on substance and their plan to swift boat him straight to hell works.. i will quit the party and go work for Nader... :cry:

both carl rove and gingrich support him, neither of them have a poker face and you can see the evil glee in their eyes.. they are not going to give up this election.. our party isn't being smart about this.

At this juncture in history, for anyone not to vote for the Democratic candidate, they'd have to be nuts.

:silly:

Just my opinion. Of course I will be voting for the Democratic nominee, whetehr it's my candidate or not.

You want Emperor McCain or Huckabee? Like Reagan, they'll sort of run a few things, but will be undercut and eventually overwhelmed by Bushies, as they do what they did to Reagan, what they did to the DOJ and every executive branch...

...drive out the able, capable ones and replace them with Loyal Bushies. make life miserable for anyone who stands by senile old McCain, likethey did to Reagan's people, who were fully chased out and the last one was Don Regan in 1984.

Supreme Court, let's not forget that - it may be our only chance to one day hope for a Supreme Court that is actually a court, not like Saddam's Supreme Court or Marcos' Supreme Court, or Pinochet's Supreme Court...

Sometimes I really don't understand my fellow DUers.

we DUers think we're so special and different from everyone else, because when it comes to the Bushies, we can see what others can't, for the most part.

But we're not special nor very different from anyone else. Not me, not you, not any of us. We all have our own areas of talent, study and expertise, and we all have our own blind spots.

And we all have one thing in common: Because we can see the blind spots of others, but not our own, we forget that they are there. I am no different from anyone else in that regard.

Find my blind spot and "push it", and I will probably react as Freeperishly as all our fellow DUers who are screaming the equivalent of "Sore Loserman!" today.

We DUers aren't special. We just have different blind spots which WE cannot see, but others can.

I hate the idea that the Dem nominee will not have to lift a finger, but that's the way it's looking. I have not yet been able to imagine the crimes the Dem nominee would have to have committed to lose my support against the GOP machine.

It would not be the same, but it would not be an improvement either. I will not help get that sort of person into office. Hell no I won't vote for someone just because they say they are a Democrat. As I see it 3/4 of the Democrats in Congress right now are not Democrats to my way of thinking - I would not support them no matter what. The same goes for the Democrats in name only that are in the race.

I'm a resident alien. I can't vote.

Some people just can't bring themselves to vote for anyone who actually has a chance to be President. I think thay just don't like authority of any stripe.

And won't vote for anyone who we think will do the country damage.

Soon after the 2000 election, there were many posts on DU saying that a vote for Nader was a wise choice. They were proud that they had defeated Gore because they claimed that Gore had sold out to the corporations.

These people thought they had done a noble thing and they take absolutely no responsibility for what Bush has done to the country.

Now we KNOW FOR SURE exactly what neocon rule does to this country.

arguing with lefties on the streets of New York. It was at some kind of demonstration. JFK wasn't liberal enough and would never be. I remember being confused at all the anger these people seemed to have, and they were Democrats.

As the years have gone by I have seen similar fracases. It is ever the case, which is why I don't get mad and leave DU, or even get mad, really, altho people call me names (which I think is funny more than anything). I guess this is just the way it will always be. Better to concentrate on some undecideds and try to woo them over...

I don't understand it either, but the bottom 2 poll choices show us we are wrong. :-(

How can anyone who reads or posts on DU even think of NOT voting for whoever the Democratic candidate is (trolls excluded)? :grr:

Whoever does not vote for the Democratic candidate forfeits the right to bitch and moan when the Repukes do something harmful to this country.

The Nader voters could only speculate how bad Bush might be in 2000. Now we KNOW how bad it will continue to be.

The Supreme Court alone makes me totally unable to understand where they are coming from.

But while I would vote for whoever the Dem nominee is, I'm not surprised at the answers to the other choices. I know an awful lot of Democrats who aren't sure if they will vote at all if Hillary is the nominee, and that doesn't even touch on the amount of Republicans who will be energized to vote for their guy if Hillary is running.

key positions?
What in the Republican philosophy could make ANY "R" attractive to a member of this board?

Meaning that you would vote FOR the Repuke candidate, or that you would not vote for a Dem candidate you didn't like if the Repuke candidate wasn't too objectionable?

of the race card being played by his supporters.Should we turn it around and say "why wont you vote for a woman?" ( btw, I am not a bigot or prejudice or anti any body so don't go there)

And I'd work hard to get the full glass the next time, too! :)

Look at the potential alternatives: President McInsane? President Fuckabee? President Mittens? President 911ani?

No thank you to any of that.

Now most people get it that there is a difference between Bush and Gore. I said most people, not all people.

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Yes, I'm practicing my Sieg Heil's RIGHT NOW.

It was over 80% when I posted it this morning, went down to around 74-75% for the day, dropped off the front page, then I kicked it a couple of minutes ago and it's dropped to 70% and is continuing to drop. WTF is wrong with people?? I don't understand why some people are on DU at all, I really don't.

Basically they've concluded that pretty much the only way to change the world to their liking, is to annoy other people into helping them with drama and threats. That's what it's come down to! Forget joining an issue-based organization to work at getting what they want by increasing public support (so that the Democrats can run with it as a winning issue, or at least can't ignore it) or any of that old-fashioned stuff that requires work in a participatory democracy, they're just gonna bother people and try to punish them by getting Republicans elected. And they're gonna do it over and over again.

Can the Middle Class afford that? Can our country afford that sort of "leadership"?

I'll vote Dem in the General no matter what. I might be somewhat disappointed in the political process by then but anything but a Republican.

We are in agreement.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/GC01Df03.html
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/538674.cms
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/593175.cms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhLBSLLIhUs
Hillary pushes for more h1-b visas and outsourcing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLNOSGM2jK4
Hillary Clinton's hypocrisy (part 1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgdrh2Bc95M
Hillary Clinton's hypocrisy (part 2)

This helps the middle class HOW?

I mean, instead of all of this scared "loyalty oath" mess, we COULD go with a more LOGICAL choice; one that WOULDN'T leave more than a great deal of Dem voters in uneasiness, doubt and fear . . . one that wouldn't BE an almost guaranteed division of the left and center AND a guarantee of massive Republican mobilization/voter registration of people trained to hate all things "Clinton" since 1993.

Before we get a real candidate like Kucinich as our representative I will continue voting my conscience. I'd rather the country be further run into the ground so that more people wake up to reality than a quick fix like our Dem frontrunners that only delay the inevitable.

I understand the sentiment behind keeping the bad guys out of office but and you've heard it all before "the lesser of two evils..."