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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:33 PM
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FBI Wiretaps Dropped Due to Unpaid Bills
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jgPRrAOa7_9-xd_LD8Ogt3ZXZ8JgD8U34BGG1

By LARA JAKES JORDAN – 1 hour ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Telephone companies cut off FBI wiretaps used to eavesdrop on suspected criminals because of the bureau's repeated failures to pay phone bills on time, according to a Justice Department audit released Thursday.

The faulty bookkeeping is part of what the audit, by the Justice Department's inspector general, described as the FBI's lax oversight of money used in undercover investigations. Poor supervision of the program also allowed one agent to steal $25,000, the audit said.

More than half of 990 bills to pay for telecommunication surveillance in five unidentified FBI field offices were not paid on time, the report shows. In one office alone, unpaid costs for wiretaps from one phone company totaled $66,000.

And at least once, a wiretap used in a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act investigation — the highly secretive and sensitive cases that allow eavesdropping on suspected terrorists or spies — "was halted due to untimely payment."

"We also found that late payments have resulted in telecommunications carriers actually disconnecting phone lines established to deliver surveillance results to the FBI, resulting in lost evidence," according to the audit by Inspector General Glenn A. Fine.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:35 PM
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1. This made me laugh for some reason. Good! nt
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:35 PM
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2. Corporate WHORES only want their cash. If you want to screw the American public just give the
Telephone companies their money. The wire tapping is disgusting, I like how they use the word Surveillance instead of wire tapping.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:36 PM
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3. We live in one fucked up country.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:37 PM
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4. If a leader wants to be an effective fascist, he needs to make the trains run on time and get the
bills paid.

GW Bush Ineffective in war, peace, democracy, and fascism.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:38 PM
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5. Yesterday I read someplace that AT&T's earnings were down due to so many disconnect for non-payment.
I have to hope somehow the two are related. :rofl:
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:38 PM
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6. AHAHAHAHA!
Too broke to violate the Constitution.....If the Congress and Supreme Court can't stop them, maybe this will.

:rofl:
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:39 PM
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7. You assume these were the warrantless wiretaps, they may very well have been the ones with warrants.
Can you see how that might be upsetting?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:43 PM
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Dude, chill.....The hyperbole is intentional.
:think:
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:57 PM
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20. OK.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:49 PM
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14. Let's assume they did have warrants
One would think, wouldn't one, that if this was such a vital component of our anti-terrorist effort, someone somewhere along the line would have made sure that the bills got paid? We're blowing about $198,000 a minute on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (based on $2 billion a week), and for want of 20 seconds' worth of that time ($66,000), a wire tap gets shut down for non-payment.

This can be upsetting on so many different levels, it's hard to count them all.
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:39 PM
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8. We're turning into the USSR
...Who will be our Yakov smirnoff?
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:54 PM
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18. In America, government really listens to you.
They listen on the phone, on the internet, in the bathroom...
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:42 PM
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28. hahahaha
:rofl:
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:40 PM
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9. AHAHAHAHAH!!!
Now that's karma.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:40 PM
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10. Best thing I've seen today
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:41 PM
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11. They should get on a friends & family plan
with unlimited eavesdropping time on nights and weekends.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:43 PM
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13. !!!
:rofl:
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:14 PM
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23. LMAO!
:rofl:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 03:42 PM
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30. ...
:spray: :rofl:
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:42 PM
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12. Sometimes you just don't know if tears or laughter is warranted. n/t
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:55 PM
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19. Oh that's a bad pun!
:rofl:
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:28 PM
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26. ...
:evilgrin:
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:51 PM
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15. OMG HA HA HA HA!!
I *love* it.
Sorry, this is one of life's little jokes about taking ourselves WAYYYYYYY to seriously.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:51 PM
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16. So all we have to do to get our privacy back
Is let Bush continue to bankrupt the country?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:53 PM
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17. WARNING WARNING
THIS IS NOT, I REPEAT NOT FROM THE ONION



Yes fascists really should paid their bills, do they think the phone company was gonna break the law without getting paid for it?
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:59 PM
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21. Mental image of Lily Tomlin yanking the line from the cordboard with a smile
Just dated myself with that one..
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:10 PM
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22. The Almighty Dollar rules again.
Too funny. Hey phone companies, you guys are jerks. You let them do what they want, but the Almighty Dollar Rules, eh?
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:17 PM
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24. The government is in total shambles
and the telephone companies are getting scared at being involved with them especially if they give them the service for free
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:24 PM
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25. MORE from Wired.com
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 01:25 PM by seemslikeadream
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/01/fbi-wiretap-cut.html


FBI Wiretap Cut Off After Feds Fail To Pay Telecom Spying Bills
By Ryan Singel January 10, 2008 | 12:48:31 PM


Some of the problems stemmed from telecoms billing multiple times for individual surveillance warrants -- which, in the case of Cox Communications, costs $1500 for a 30-day wiretap order. But telecoms also bill the FBI for internet connections and phone lines that connect the carrier's wiretap-friendly switches with the FBI's wiretap software system known as the Digitial Collection System.

Each field office has wiretap recording computers that are meshed together with all the other field offices and HQ through a secure fiber optic network operated by Sprint.

The Inspector General found that the FBI was often confused about whether to use confidential case funds or general HQ money to pay the telecoms, and were even so confused that when telecoms issued refunds, they sometimes sent the refunds back to the carriers.

In 2006, DCS 5000, the FBI's national security wiretapping software, captured 27,728,675 communication sessions, according to released FBI documents, but the document does not define what a "session" consists of. That year the FBI reported winning 2,176 FISA, or Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, warrants from a secret court.

To learn more about the FBI's wiretap network and software, start with "Point, Click ... Eavesdrop: How the FBI Wiretap Net Operates" and find out even more -- including details on the FBI's cell phone tracking vans in "FBI E-Mail Shows Rift Over Warrantless Phone Records Grab."
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:36 PM
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27. Watching our government in action
is often like watching the Keystone Cops. And these are the people who are supposed to be keeping us safe? LOL
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:59 PM
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36. Can competence be vestigial?
The big, bad FBI has been taken over by the Keystone Cops and Enron accountants?

What next, McHale's Navy? Gomer Pyle for the Joint Chiefs?

Am I allowed to be frightened and ashamed at the same time?
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 03:40 PM
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29. Now it's really starting to look like the Soviets


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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 03:44 PM
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31. or worse?
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 03:45 PM by seemslikeadream
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 03:56 PM
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32. Hahaha
Great site! ;-)

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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:04 PM
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33. OMG!1!!111
It's the Cats from Brazil!

Great link slad! :rofl:
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Dawggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:08 PM
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35. Good one! I thank I must have read that book three times. Ira Levin, right?
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:25 PM
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37. Ira it was. Even the movie was creepy, I usually read the book before
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 10:28 PM by vickiss
seeing any movie version. I wasn't disappointed in the movie, but the book was better. Of course!

Gregory Peck, :woohoo:

Rest in Peace Mr. Peck.

Date of Birth: 04/05/1916
Date of Death: 06/12/2003
Age at Death: 87


Rest in Peace Mr. Levin.

Ira Levin

Field: Literature

Info: Author of "The Boys from Brazil", "The Stepford Wives", "Rosemary's Baby" and other books

Date of Birth: 08/27/1929
Date of Death: 11/12/2007
Age at Death: 78

Cause of Death:
Heart attack

http://www.deadoraliveinfo.com/dead.nsf/lnames-nf/Levin+Ira

Feeling older tonight; many of my favorite actors and writers are gone. Wow.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:06 PM
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34. Credit counseling services may be required, FBI FICO @ 482
:rofl:
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:05 AM
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38. More proof the "Terrorist Surveillance Program" is a Telco raid on the U.S. Treasury.
Illegal NSA wiretapping is worth $$$ billions and billions! FISA warrant surevillance is small beans by comparison. No wonder most of the telcos wanted to get rid of warrants and hop right into The Program! Wiretapping everyone does wonders for the bottom-line. It's another way to loot the Treasury and a huge give-away to big GOP campaign contributors. This sort of thing almost defines corporate fascism, 21st Century American-style.


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