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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:28 PM
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McCain: "I will never, ever allow this nation to surrender"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/01/10/wuspols510.xml

John McCain paints himself as a war president

John McCain burnished his credentials as a potential commander-in-chief of a nation at war on the latest stage of his bid for the Republican presidential nomination.

Speaking at military college in South Carolina and flanked by rows students in uniform, the former naval pilot and Vietnam War hero said the US must keep its troops in Iraq until al-Qa'eda is defeated.

He recalled meeting the mother of a young soldier killed near Baghdad who pleaded with him not to let her son's death be in vain.

"I told her: 'I will never, ever allow this nation to surrender'. We will never surrender, they will," he said, to thunderous applause.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:29 PM
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1. I am so sick of this psychotic putz.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:30 PM
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2. Has McCain now declared war against the United States?
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:30 PM
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3. So the war will continue another 8 years
GREEEEEAAAAAAATT.... :eyes:
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:31 PM
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4. Even if it takes 1,000 years...
the honest thing to have done would be to tell that mother that her son did die in vain John. Nothing will EVER change that.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:32 PM
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5. oh shit, another war monger,
can you imagine if Bloomberg throws his hat or his 20 billion in?????
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:32 PM
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6. What an idiot. nt
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:34 PM
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7. Too late dude
It's already surrendered to the corporations and the Saudis.

It's surrendered its manufacturing base to Asia.

It's in the process of surrendering its technological advantage to India.

Its military edge is illusionary because it isn't able to fight 21st century wars.

You can knock of the macho posturing asswipe - it's too fuckin late already.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:35 PM
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8. Uh, John? Who the hell would we be surrendering to by leaving Iraq?
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:36 PM
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9. And he doesn't care how many people die doing it, either!
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 02:36 PM by AndyA
Now that's something to be proud of, John.

A piece of shit laying in a field has more compassion than John McCain does.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:36 PM
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10. He does not know how to declare victory and leave. nt
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:37 PM
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11. Do Not Forget--This plays very well in the South and John MCCain
is very much aware of his surroundings. Very much a Military
state. Patriotism and idea of winning--vicctory plays in
the South .
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:37 PM
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12. McCain, read a dozen books on Vietnam
since you missed what the hell was going on while you were a POW.
After you understand vietnam, get back to me and I'll give you reading list on the middle east...
then a reading list on military tactics.

Because you fail to understand government mentality, the geography and its history, and military strategy.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:37 PM
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13. Is it possible McCain is a bigger war monger than Bush?
It's hard to believe, but maybe it's true.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:38 PM
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14. I wasn't really aware we were at war.
I mean, think about it. A "War" on Iraq was never really DECLARED, per se . . . we just went over and bombed the shit out of a sovereign nation that did nothing to a single American citizen at that point. I'm not really seeing how "Surrendering" something is possible when a) you attacked a nation aggressively without provocation, not the other way around and b) a "win" or a "loss" cannot really be defined, much less achieved. Anyone who thinks the answer is "Pro-western Democratic Middle East" is ignorant of thousands of years of culture, tradition and religion.
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alllyingwhores Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:39 PM
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15. Nation: "Go fuck yourself McCain"
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 03:37 PM
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33. ...
:thumbsup: :applause:
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:40 PM
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16. The GOP version of foreign policy *IS* a surrender.
Policies that create terrorists, that make the ME less stable, that divide us from our friends & unite our enemies are all antithetical the goals of peace & security.

When GOPers say shit like this, bin Laden smiles.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:40 PM
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17. psychologically needs to justify having been tortured for a bunch of years
he is definitely still fighting the vietnam war and trying to justify his having been tortured for a bunch of years for another war that was not needed and provoked by the west - we continue to fight wars the usa caused.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:41 PM
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18. Keep hammering this home, McCain -
please make this the central theme of your campaign!!
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:42 PM
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19. He was speaking at THE CITADEL; war talk is expected, no matter now tiresome.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:54 PM
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24. This isn't a damn episode of Galaxy Quest...
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:45 PM
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20. That;s chilling. nt
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:45 PM
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21. without this insane illegal attack on Iraq al-Qa'eda would not be there
so what the hell sort of drugs is McCain on , what a freak .
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:45 PM
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22. Jesus No Wonder They Let Him Go
They were sick to death of his mindless nonsense. How do I say STFU in Vietnamese?
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:47 PM
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23. Erect Bogeyman. Wave flag. Talk tough. Works every time.
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” H.L. Mencken
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:58 PM
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25. that's a clever phrase signifying nothing, but the electorate will eat it up...the DEMS should have
latched onto it long ago. No one(well maybe Nader) would surrender the nation...its a given. A Dem could say that even the most anti-war fringer and not in any way be 'selling out'. Yet to Floyd and Zelda on that pig farm it has great meaning! and they vote in huge numbers...but too late now, one more bullet for McCaine to use against the Dems in the Fall. He remains the single most dangerous threat to a Democratic win in November. And he will too, if we follow the paths Dems have all to often followed in the past.
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kimmylavin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 03:00 PM
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26. Oh great...
ANOTHER big swinging dick.
Don't people ever get tired of this crap???
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 03:05 PM
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27. O, but you already have Mr. McCain. You did the day you
signed the UN partirotic act!!!!!
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 03:07 PM
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28. I sware - McCain is trying to impress people by imitating a Freep-tard
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 03:08 PM by HughMoran
What a moran!
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 03:30 PM
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29. who the hell would we be surrendering to?
No one declared war on us, we haven't declared war on any country. The u. s. of a. currently occupies another country for some ungodly reason that no one with a few braincells can understand, but we have no one to surrender to. he's as big an asshat as the current asshat.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 03:31 PM
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30. What if they gave a surrender and nobody came?
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 03:33 PM
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31. That's the problem with this whole "War on Terror".
Who exactly is "they"? Terrorism is a tactic, not an enemy. This so called "war" can never be won until the US ceases imperialism in the Middle East.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 03:35 PM
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32. There is a difference between resolute steadfastness and
stubborn bull-headedness.. haven't we all had ENOUGH of that shit?
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