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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:32 PM
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Heads up. Sen. Clinton may have had another *emotional* moment today.
One of our local stations just ran a teaser for their 11 o'clock news saying they were following Hillary Clinton at her gathering today at a local Reno restaurant, Bertha Miranda's. She's been in Nevada today, courting the Hispanic vote, first in Vegas then at this closed event in Reno.

According to the talking head, seems she may have had another emotional moment. No details were given -- they'll broadcast the story this PM.

I'll update this thread this PM after I catch the KOLO Ch 8 newscast.

Not sure, if this is true, how it will effect voters here.

Who knows, it could just be our inexperienced political pundits making another mountain out of a mole hill.
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:44 PM
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1. If this is what I think it is, I saw it on CNN live.
This 65 year old women was talking about losing her house and how she was using her credit cards to pay her mortgage, which jumped from something like $750.00 to $1300.00. She owed more than what the house was worth. By the end I was crying along with this distraught lady.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:50 PM
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2. I'd cry too, if this was my house!
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:56 PM
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3. I looked at 2 TV sites and the daily paper for Reno: no mention.
The newspaper does mention the tearful woman who is losing her home, then says HRC responded "in a quiet voice."

She was at the restaurant around 1 PST. Upshot: I suspect "mountain of molehill" is about right this time around.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:21 PM
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17. Bingo--but watch this place explode in the meantime. nt
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PADemD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:21 PM
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4. read The Borowitz Report about Hillary Crying
"Hillary Schedules Official Crying Jag for South Carolina
Launches ‘Sniffling Tour’ Before SuperDuper Tuesday"

http://borowitzreport.com/
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:20 PM
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16. !
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:23 PM
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19. LOL
:rofl:
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:24 AM
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5. Friggin' OP
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:40 AM
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6. How nice for the media that her "emotional moments" are scheduled for their convenience.
Gotta love those spontaneous upwellings of feelings. Golly.



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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:31 AM
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7. I hate to be the first to term this one, but, here goes.
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 02:39 AM by Emit
From the news clip, her 'emotional moment' this time looked like a 'pout' on Clinton's part more than anything else. The clip didn't show the woman Clinton was speaking to; it just showed Clinton patting her on the shoulder with her bottom lip turned down and saying that she would like to help fix her problems -- these were "hand-selected Nevadans confronting the difficulties of the state’s slumping housing market and other economic challenges," so we can assume this was not as spontaneous as her campaign would like viewers to believe.

Call me cynical and mean spirited, fellow DUers, but this "personal encounter" felt forced and kinda fell flat, IMHO.

Better luck next time Hillary.

Now, if someone has a video clip of the poor woman whom they hand-selected speaking about her problem, I for one would like to see it. She has my sympathies.

edited to add intended link
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:57 AM
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9. She rubbed her eye too
There are blog reports of this sporadic burst of empathy for yet another elderly woman in America. No wet tears though. Then she'd have to carry tissue and wads of kleenex is just not presidential.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:44 AM
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8. Given that the "emotional moment" apparently refers to a pout, it seems likely
the candidate would have many emotional moments per day with such a low threshold for "emotional".
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:59 AM
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10. She's only lost one primary
I expect the number of outbursts per day will increase as the losses increase.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 10:57 AM
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15. What would you consider the first of these "outbursts"?
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TerwilligeRedux Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:34 PM
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21. the "I'm your girl" bit
“For 15 years I have stood up against the right-wing machine, and I’ve come out stronger,” she said. “So if you want a winner who knows how to take them on, I’m your girl.”

I am strong, I am invincible, I am your girl!
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:47 PM
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25. That was an "emotional outburst"?
Wow.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:39 PM
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26. I'm referring to the "humanizing moment"
as her campaign likes to call it, in NH.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:30 PM
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27. Okay. Did you actually consider that an "emotional outburst"?
?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:01 AM
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11. Please. Nobody has been more weepy than "W" and his crazed father.
Senator Clinton has a long way to go before catching up with those crybabies, so save it.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:34 AM
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12. No worry
No tears were shed this time.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:38 AM
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13. They weren't last time either
As I was informed over and over and over again.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:51 AM
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14. Obama balls like a baby at every little bit of criticism...
But Hillary withstands endless bombardment of hypercriticism 24/7 and takes it with a grain of salt. Which one has the pair here?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:22 PM
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18. Oh, no--did she vary the tone of her voice AGAIN? The horror! (sarcasm) nt
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:23 PM
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20. God forbid a candidate have human emotions- Get a grip
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:38 PM
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22. The issue for me is not whether a candidate has human emotions
It's whether the 'human emotion' is contrived.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:40 PM
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23. And of course no matter what to you they will be contrived
And if they aren't "contrived" then you will see people calling her a weak woman.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:46 PM
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24. No. Not necessarily.
I had a different impression from the NH event:

Okay. I just saw the Hillary clip where she tears up a bit. My gut reaction...
Posted by Emit on Tue Jan-08-08 12:27 AM

...for what it's worth.

My first thought was ... Edwards. She was emulating Edwards. Edwards, during the debate, brought the cause to a personal level for himself. I can't recall his specific words, but it was when he was talking about the personal nature of his lifelong work, fighting against powerful insurance companies and special interests. This resonates with voters, and some of the criticism that Clinton has had following Iowa and this NH debate is that she was going on about herself -- her 35 years of experience -- and not talking about the voters like Edwards and Obama were.

I don't think she intended to become tearful to manipulate voters or the media -- I think, though, that that was a byproduct of her getting personal because she's tired and stressed -- and it's not her usual message. It's very hard to try to be in control all the time and then let yourself be vulnerable to personal emotion. It's also hard to cry on demand unless you're a seasoned actor, and despite her public persona, I don't think that's her forte. So, I think the choking up was for real, not pretend.

I think someone in her camp, or herself even, realized that she needed to add something personal to her message - something the voters can get impassioned about enough to want to vote for her. The Hillary camp can't be so naive as to not see that a lot of the grassroots enthusiasm that propels the Obama and Edwards campaigns is their reaching out personally and connecting to would be voters. To bring it to a personal level as a reason for fight instills some sort of passion, which seems to be lacking in Hillary and her supporters thus far, IMHO. Makes her less status quo, in a sense, too.



Thoughts?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=2622260

This played well for her, and the notion that she will continue to make this personal and try to show more emotion is obviously now part of her new message.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:54 PM
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28. A teaser of a specious news story and you had to post it. I'm no fan of either Obama or Clinton,
but if you let the media manipulate you like that, well, it's just really sad.
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