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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:41 PM
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CIA: We said back in 1974 that Israel had nuclear weapons
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/943902.html

The Central Intelligence Agency, backed by bodies including the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research and the Defense Intelligence Agency, determined in August 1974 that Israel had nuclear "weapons in being," a "small number" of which it "produced and stockpiled."

Israel was also suspected of providing nuclear materials, equipment or technology to Iran, South Africa and other then-friendly countries.


his top secret document, consigned to the CIA's vaults for almost 32 years, was suddenly released to the public this week, during U.S. President George W. Bush's visit to Israel and on the eve of his trip to the Persian Gulf.

A small part of the document was released in early 2006 under a Freedom of Information Request placed by scholars Avner Cohen and William Burr, but only as an attachment to a 1975 State Department paper ostensibly disputing the the portrayal of Israel's nuclear weapons as a fact.

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Did anybody put this up already just wondering?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:04 AM
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1. Saw this a couple days ago.
Then, as now, I wondered why this is hitting the news.

Israel's nukes have been accepted as fact for 30 years.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:08 AM
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3. the timing is amazing right when Bush was there
truly crazy to bring this up now
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:05 AM
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2. I believe this has always been assumed
Also, wasn't there an investigative report regarding the death of Karen Silkwood (the Oklahoma women killed in a suspcious auto accident in November 1974) that stated she may have accidently come across missing plutonium records while doing union work at Kerr-Magee-and that the missing plutonium went to Israel?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:20 AM
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5. i never heard that about karen but it has been public "knowledge" that
Israel has nukes and the latest i`ve read is about a hundred
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:15 AM
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4. ....
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 12:29 AM by seemslikeadream


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WefXdsow21g
Mordechai Vanunu (Nick Laird-Clowes, Gilbert Gabriel)

The living word that Mordechai heard
That rang loud inside his head
Wasn't loud enough to stop the bomb

With repression ringing out again
From South Africa to the shores of this land
That wouldn't stop resistance holding on

Mordechai Vanunu
Said "Israel, don't drop the bomb"
Mordechai Israel

Mordechai Vanunu
Keep your resistance strong
Mordechai Israel

Nuclear research station underground
The written word that Mordechai found
All printed out in black and white

With enough Plutonium to build the bomb
And statements to the contrary not withdrawn
Mordechai took it to the world outside

Mordechai Vanunu
Had his picture printed by the press
And his story told outloud

Mordechai Vanunu
Was exiled in a world of emptiness
Because he told the truth outloud

In England streets of London town
Mordechai went underground
Over fear of threats upon his life

He met a girl called Cindy on the streets of Soho
Seemed so sympathetic, he broke down, let it go
Then he flew with her to Rome

Mordechai Mordechai
Wasn't alone when he discovered that
Cindy worked for the government

Mordechai Mordechai
Was chained up and attacked
By agents of his government

He woke up on a boat
All shot up with dope
Missing, presumed dead, living just inside his head

Until he turned up in Tel Aviv
On matters of state security
In the back of a police van
But he had a message written on the palm of his hand

And it said
Vanunu, Mordechai
Kidnapped from Italy 30-9-86
On flight A504

Mordechai Vanunu
Wore a special helmet when he next appeared in court
Just in case he tried to talk

The living word that Mordechai heard
The living word that Mordechai heard
That rang loud inside his head
Wasn't loud enough

He's in a cell three metres wide
TV cameras on all sides
24 hours of electric light
Nowhere left to hide
Don't give up the fight
Don't give up the fight

Mordechai Vanunu
Said "Israel, don't drop the bomb"
Mordechai Israel

Mordechai Vanunu
Keep your resistance strong
Mordechai Israel


An illegal interview with Mordechai Vanunu - Part I

An illegal interview with Mordechai Vanunu - Part II

An illegal interview with Mordechai Vanunu - Part III
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:25 AM
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6. Wow. I really thought that Israel had nuclear weapons.
But if the CIA says they do, it can't possibly be true.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:42 AM
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7. lol! nt
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