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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:44 AM
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Reviews Are In: Edwards Hits The Jackpot
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 01:04 AM by jsamuel
http://www.johnedwards.com/news/press-releases/20080115-reviews-are-in/
Edwards Declared the Winner by a Focus Group of Undecided Nevada Voters. On Fox News, Frank Luntz' focus group from Las Vegas of thirty undecided Nevada Democrats declared Edwards the winner. Luntz:

"How many of you thought John Edwards won?" <1/2 crowd raises hand>

"How many of you came in supporting Senator Edwards?" (About 3 people raise hand)

"On issue after issue, we're going to show this to you tomorrow night, his language actually scored better than Senator Clinton and Senator Obama."

NBC's Chuck Todd: On Edwards, "I thought he did a really good job tonight…He was the heart and gut campaign tonight. He was very good." After the debate, Chuck Todd said, "And by the way, Edwards, I thought he personalized...I thought he did a really good job tonight. I thought he, we talked about the fierce urgency of facts, right, that Clinton brought out. He was heart. He was the heart and gut campaign tonight. He was very good."

NBC's Chuck Todd: "I Thought Edwards Gave the Best Presentation." "On the perception front, I thought Edwards gave the best presentation; he may have been a little light on speaking time, but in this intimate forum, his skill of making every one of his answers personal to the viewer shined through very well." <http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/15/581417.aspx>

NBC's Chuck Todd: "Head vs. gut on first economic answer…Edwards made the answer personal and talked about people; Clinton talked about the problem in more technical terms." 9:45: "Watching both Edwards and Clinton handle this first economic question really shows the difference in their personalities. Edwards made the answer personal and talked about people; Clinton talked about the problem in more technical terms. A head vs gut answer; both campaigns are probably pleased with the contrast." <"Head vs. gut on first economic answer," http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/15/581257.aspx>

ABC's Rick Klein: "Edwards finds his voice when he talks about money in politics -- it's effective stuff." "10:29 pm: Edwards finds his voice when he talks about money in politics -- it's effective stuff, to a point." <http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/live-blogging-o.html>

ABC's Rick Klein: "Edwards Again Kept Things Most to His Message." "11 pm: Final thoughts -- first, on the debate. Edwards again kept things most to his message…" <http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/live-blogging-o.html>

ABC's Rick Klein: "A good question from Edwards -- don't the people who are giving you money expect something?" "10 pm: A good question from Edwards -- don't the people who are giving you money expect something? Obama's answer was fine, but little that didn't sound pre-packaged, even insidery." <http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/live-blogging-o.html>

Reno Gazette-Journal's Anjeanette Damon: Edwards Steeled His Credentials "By Pointing Out He Is the Only Candidate to Explicitly Oppose the Construction of New Nuclear Power Plants." When "the inevitable Yucca Mountain question is broached...Edwards attempted to steel his credentials by pointing out he is the only candidate to explicitly oppose the construction of new nuclear power plants." <http://www.rgj.com/blogs/inside-nevada-politics/2008/01/inevitable-yucca-mountain-question-is.html>

ABC's Rick Klein: "This is a real point of distinction for Edwards, and a valuable one in South Carolina, on guns." "10:43 pm: This is a real point of distinction for Edwards, and a valuable one in South Carolina, on guns. For as far left as he's tacked, it's not happening on the Second Amendment, and that could be worth a few points." <http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/live-blogging-o.html>
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:01 AM
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1. It's nice that 1/2 the voting population of this Nevada group made
the call.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:27 AM
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39. Grain of salt when it comes to Luntz
I hvae a hard time believing his "before and after" stories.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:54 AM
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51. Ya. HUGE grain of salt with Luntz
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:54 PM
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68. Keep telling y'all...
Edwards is the safe bet and that scares the GOP and Evilangicals to death...
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:02 AM
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2. I'm an Edwards supporter, but I thought Clinton won?
Tells ya what I know. ;)
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:05 AM
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3. You and my brother. He says the same thing.
:hi:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:06 AM
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5. I think Yucca Mountain alone will bump Hillary up in Nevada?
But ... we shall see. :hi:
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:24 AM
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11. That was a huge issue out there.
That's true. You know, you have to give John a lot credit for still being in this thing considering all the stupid issues he's gotten behind. He's stepped in just about every big, stinking pile in Washington, from the war to nuclear waste.

It just might be too remote in time now, though, and people may have forgotten how mad they once were. I kind of hope so, anyhow, because John was pretty green when he first showed up on the national stage. And he seems to have come up to speed on all the important issues much faster than anyone I have ever watched.

(Except for Ariana Huffington who changed her whole world-view overnight - that night she spent in bed with Al Franken reporting on the Democratic convention - politics makes strange bedfellows).
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:29 AM
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13. I had no idea that Ariana changed her position on that night?
It would be fun to see them do a repeat of sorts for the coming convention, wouldn't it?

I do worry about Edwards conflicting votes/views but he is speaking about the issues that resonate with me. And that I feel these issues are important to the Party if we want to reclaim this country for it's people. So, I support him, lack of perfection and all.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:15 AM
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18. It may be exaggerating a little bit about her, but that's her story.

I do agree with you that Edwards looks like he is on the right track. Even with all his past screw-ups.

I was just listening to a replay of the debate, the part where he says how he regrets having voted for the forerunner of the bankruptcy bill that was later passed in 2005. He sure does step up and says "yeah, that was wrong, I shouldn't have done that." I can't believe that he isn't sincere (for one thing I don't think Elizabeth can be fooled by anyone) and even if he isn't sincere, he sure does know how to sell it. Which makes him no worse than the other two, if you ask me, and possibly a thousand times better.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:33 PM
Response to Reply #18
61. Being forced into his camp means I can't be ecstatic about him
But I am pleased with him.

Especially given the alternative.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 07:15 PM
Response to Reply #18
84. You just alluded to one of my favorite sayings
don't know the origin:

"if you can fake sincerity you have everything else covered."

Disclaimer (see below): I am not applying it to Edwards. I just think it is a funny line.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 08:52 PM
Response to Reply #18
92. You forgot the question mark after the word "story" in your post title.
:)
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #13
56. A couple problems with a redux of "Strange Bedfellows"...
(1) Arianna and Al are now of the same political persuasion, even if not at the exact same points on the spectrum.

(2) I think Al's campaign manager might disapprove.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:06 AM
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4. you could tell Clinton was worried about Edwards because she went after him on the nuclear waste
stuff, but Edwards came back at her with "no more nuke plants"
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:07 AM
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6. I think his vote on Yucca is going to make some leary ?
But, I'd LOVE it if he won Nevada! :hi:
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:13 PM
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70. You Know, I Think First Of All... That MANY New Senators Need Some
"seasoning" of sorts. Many of them respond to voting because the "old dogs" that have been there forever "nudge them" and since they want to be effective they might be sensitive to their views.

Since his term as a Senator, THIS John Edwards is NOT the same person!

I'm with him ALL THE WAY! AND I think he was GREAT last night, as he HAS been in ALL the Debates. Not being covered by MSM and having the "pundits" IGNORE him for the most part seems to be ONE OF THE MAIN reasons he's not on TOP!! I think he's the BEST candidate and he will get my vote NO MATTER WHAT!
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 07:18 PM
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85. yes, unfortunately
it probably takes a while to get your sea legs. Need to understand how to recognize BS packaged as good legislation. I imagine the old hands are good at snookering the newbies.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:09 PM
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94. I Really Do Believe It Works That Way... When I Was Younger It Didn't
seem to be so crucial, but given many Democrats today... many many of them that have been there and SHOULD know better, their example should be avoided!

I can think of a few Senators who have really made me sick to my stomach anymore. Some that I really thought were on "our" side, but they don't seem to care about "we the people" anymore. I'm sorry to be so negative, but I often wonder IF we had a greater majority in the Senate if THEY ACTUALLY would vote for what we want! Say nothing of the House!!

So many times the word "cabal" crosses my lips!
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:28 AM
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21. Also, check out this informative post on background info about Yucca...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4081332#4082323

it seems a lot of people were fooled by this particular case of corporate corruption.

I've also seen an article critical of Clinton for missing important committee meetings on this issue, so she is not immune to criticism.
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:00 AM
Response to Reply #4
37. Edwards comeback excellent - voted before he knew they forged documents and
that there is new science out there that he would not vote for nuclear anywhere. etc etc
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:40 AM
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47. That whole little exchange seemed so "You Forgot Poland"-esque. nt
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:24 AM
Response to Reply #2
12. I am not an Edwards supporter but I thought he out did himself
It's not that I do not like Edwards, I do, I am not supporting anyone so far.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:33 AM
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14. "out did" in a good way or visa versa?
:shrug:
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #14
57. ha! same thing I was wondering. : ) n/t
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:47 PM
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98. Let me dispel the ambivalence you read into my response
as well as that expressed by krkaufman below.

I thought Edwards took the essence of his campaign platform, multiplied the passion he feels for the planks therein three times over, and showed that exhilarated passion in the debate. In that regard, he served his quest extremely well, and I believe the reviews of his performance reflect that.

I am not an Edwards supporter, but I am not supporting anyone at this point. However, should he win I would be entirely comfortable with that.

Sam
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:48 AM
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15. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:58 AM
Response to Reply #15
16. Yes, and considering I have nearly 30,000 posts
I'd say I've been good a remaining just under the radar, you? :hi:
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:03 AM
Response to Reply #16
20. OMG
"just another plant"??? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Nice to see you, mzmolly! :hug:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #20
65. Nice to see you too fooj!
:hi:
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 08:41 AM
Response to Reply #16
32. So what kind of plant are you?
Rose bush? Geranium? Apple tree?

You can tell us!

:rofl:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 08:50 AM
Response to Reply #32
35. Psst...


Shhhh...

:hide:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:41 PM
Response to Reply #35
66. Well that would certainly explain my spelling/grammar at times!
:P :smoke:
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:13 PM
Response to Reply #35
95. From Your Garden?? Nice Pic! If I Had My Mag Glass I Could See
the "mushroom rise!" Hey, I've read books on this before, and there are pictures in those books.

AWWW, back in the day... High Times showed the stuff all the time!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #32
64. I'm feelin kinda Boston Ivy today.
:P
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 05:25 AM
Response to Reply #15
24. You're serious aren't you?
Everyone needs to look....so you can identify it again when you see it because this is a PERFECT example of it

Sheesh
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 08:34 AM
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29. Wowee...
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 08:35 AM by BleedingHeartPatriot
That is crazy. :crazy: MKJ

edited my smilie, LOL.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:00 AM
Response to Reply #24
48. Why is there a paintball splatter on my screen?
Must have been the hit and run poster.
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socretes73 Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:58 PM
Response to Reply #2
75. I totally Agree
I thought Clinton really came through.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:09 AM
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7. That's good to see.
Next step is to get him some campaign money - pronto - to make sure he can run lots of ads and keep the bus gassed up.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 05:20 AM
Response to Reply #7
23. Friday is the day to donate...
He's gonna try to break Paul's one day total. :)
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 06:42 AM
Response to Reply #23
27. Friday, YES! Thanks for the reminder!
How do we generate media coverage for the 'Invisible' John Edwards?

"...Edwards could engage in a high speed police chase with Britney's kids on his lap and a missing white girl in the trunk, or he could raise $7 million dollars in one day." (dkos)


This is a grassroots thing, started spontaneously by a dailykos poster on Sunday (on his blog News Corpse). In the hopes that a record breaking day of contributions will generate news and media attention for the 'invisible' candidate John Edwards. (I'm just going to add some info here for everyone)




Make a Secure Online Contribution at JohnEdwards.com

ATTN: Do NOT use ActBlue - they do not match funds!

DU thread: John Edwards: $7 Million Dollars In One Day - Make It Happen

I recommend the post at dailykos - it's really good.
dkos: John Edwards: $7 Million Dollars In One Day - Make It Happen
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 08:48 AM
Response to Reply #23
34. boy, I can't wait to give to him, we will come to his rescue.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:54 PM
Response to Reply #34
59. ...
:thumbsup: :woohoo: :bounce:
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Reader Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #23
69. And I get paid on Friday! Perfect timing!
I'm definitely going to donate, but the amount will depend on how much I've got after I pay all the bills.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:37 PM
Response to Reply #23
96. Yep, I'm already planning on a Friday Johnnygram!
And thanks for getting the word out. It's folks like you who will make it happen.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:16 AM
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8. w00t!
Go, John!!!!!

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citizen53 Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:18 AM
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9. Edwards said more in less time...
than the others. What else is new?
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:04 AM
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17. He has to. Even Hillary and Barack think it's a 2 way race
I think this debate will show that there are 3 viable candidates.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 08:55 PM
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93. Indeed.
Barack rambled around and around and confused people to death, Hillary droned on and on and bored people to death, and Edwards stepped up, focused on the issues and nailed them in as few words as possible.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:24 AM
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10. Quite a List of Positive Comments Re: Edwards ....
Just goes to show the more people hear Edwards, the more they like him.
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:15 AM
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19. What a President he would make! K+R
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:40 AM
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22. K&R. (nt)
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 05:28 AM
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25. Go, Johnny go!
:kick:
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Glimmer of Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 05:45 AM
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26. This is really nice. I like how he tried to get his message out despite the
mediocre questions.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 06:47 AM
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28. It's because people are realizing at least in the back of their minds
that it's the people vs the ruling monied elites right now in the US and Edwards is speaking to it.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 08:36 AM
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30. K&R
:kick:
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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 08:39 AM
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31. K &R ....
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 08:46 AM
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33. watch Edwards he will come from behind
he is under the radar right now, but he will emerge!!! that will shock our pissy media.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:00 AM
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36. I prefer Edwards
Well actually I prefer Kucinich, and maybe Edwards did win this sham of a debate, but let not take Frank Luntz word for it. He does, after all, lie for a living. *cough* death tax *cough cough*
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:05 AM
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38. What does this mean? " "This is a real point of distinction for Edwards...
and a valuable one in South Carolina, on guns." For as far left as he's tacked, it's not happening on the Second Amendment, and that could be worth a few points."
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veniceboy Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:37 AM
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40. John Edwards Underground?
Why so much John Edwards on the front page? By the way, Hillary won convincingly- John came in second and my candidate, Obama, came in a distant third.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:52 AM
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41. Edwards scored big on Luntz's last post-debate group, too....seems
that when he is HEARD, he gets some people thinkig...
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:03 AM
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42. Kick!!
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:20 AM
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43. Edwards is surging in Nevada ..... nice recap of post-debate comments.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:30 AM
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44. I am an Edwards supporter but was disappointed ...
.... with his performance last night. Prime example: on the question of Kuwait being part of the multi-nationals who are bailing out CitiGroup, he totally dodged the question itself and maneuvered into his 'this is why I am running' stump speech.

Obama (not my candidate), however, DID address Kuwait and the issue(s) of how we can reclaim our economy by lessening dependence on and assistance to other countries like it. Kudos to him.

Hillary was just Hillary - there is nothing anyone can do to make me like her as a candidate. :puke:
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:35 AM
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45. Nice roundup....K&R !
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:38 AM
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46. recommend!
:woohoo:
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SusanLarson Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:35 AM
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49. Best choice
I think Edwards is our best chance at taking back America for the people.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:42 AM
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50. We can't make it without him.
He needs to be on the ticket somewhere.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:34 PM
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54. i agree , but the scumbag dlc or dnc or whatever crew calls the shots will supress him
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AikidoSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:23 PM
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52. What kind of voting and vote tabulation machines to they have
in Nevada?

Kicked and Recommended.

Am torn between Kucinich and Edwards. Part of me wants to vote
for Edwards in the Jan 29th Florida primary -- because he has
a much better chance than DK. But DK deserves so much credit
for standing up for the people for a long time. And he did
after all get it right more often than Edwards did on important
issues BEFORE there were bandwagons rolling. A real leader.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:34 PM
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53. Edwards really needs your vote in Florida.
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 12:34 PM by jsamuel
I can understand your feelings on Kucinich, but if Edwards wins in NV and has a strong showing in SC, he will need you in FL to keep him good until February 5th. Thank you for considering Edwards.

Nevada is a caucus, so they will count people, not votes.
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AikidoSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:32 PM
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73. I'm totally ignorant about the meaning of "caucus"
and looking it up on GOOGLE, Wiki, etc... does not seem to help.

Generally I get the idea that caucuses are conducted by privileged party members who make
decisions about who gets in, and who gets left out.

Oversimplification I know... but I find it disturbing that some states have primaries not based on a general vote
by the public-at-large.

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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 05:59 PM
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83. that is not how a caucus works
anyone can "vote" by appearing at their precinct just like a normal primary. They all have to be there by some time (like 6pm). They then go to a part of the room designated to their candidate of choice. For example, all Obama voters go to the right corner while all the Edwards voters go to the left corner. They then count these people. Delegates are then assigned for the precinct based on the vote.
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AikidoSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 01:29 PM
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97. I appreciate the clarification. Thanks for taking the time N/T
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:40 PM
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55. Yay!
:)
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:46 PM
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58. Imagine what would have happened if
a REAL progressive like Kucinich had been allowed to have equal time... :shrug:
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:32 PM
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60. Every local media person MSNBC has interviewed in Nev has given Edwards high marks...
....
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:35 PM
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62. John Ralston of the Las Vegas Sun says Edwards has Union support in NEV
He says that the choice between Edwards and Obama inside the Culinary Union was very close, and that John Edwards has lots of other union support.

He says Edwards is doing well in Nevada, and it is a 3 way battle.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:35 PM
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63. There was a subtle change of tone
in Edwards that seemed to have made an impact on 3rd party observers. I don't think Edwards supporters noticed or care. It showed in his friendly and not edgy question to Obama. In fact it was a great question and there is no real answer to it but it didn't seem that he was attacking Obama.

Luntz's group responding to Edwards simply leads us to wonder why in the hell would Fox want to fan the Edwards fire?, as Luntz has nothing to do with real polling - its all staged as has been well shown by a previous poster.
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Anwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:48 PM
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67. Good news!
Way to go John!
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:26 PM
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71. I have supported John Edwards unlike any other in my life
His message is MY message and I hope you all will call, write, and send messages to people (and unions to get the word out) on Thur. or Fri. asking them to realize his message is OUR message, and to please support him Friday with any type of donation.


Send the video I made, some really like it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RFYWIlb3sw
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:59 PM
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76. Me too!
In the past I supported the "Democrat" - This time I'm supporting Edwards. He's the person I want in MY White House!:patriot:
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 04:11 PM
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78. HI-5 n/t
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 05:12 PM
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81. Great video!!!
:yourock:
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California Griz Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:27 PM
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72. Edwards speaks truth
I keep hearing Obama and Clinton talking about working with the other side. For 7 years Bush has been shoving his agenda down our throats with no regards to our laws. What makes them think they can bring about real change by working with the other side. In my opinion that's as foolish as Bush thinking he can end a 1000+ year blood feud between the Sunni and Shia. Edwards is the only one speaking the truth that we can't solve our problems by working with the Republicans. The Media has been setting this up since the 2004 election. I can't believe so many are falling into their trap.

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socretes73 Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:57 PM
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74. I thought Clinton Won - Hands Down
I am switching my "super Tuesday" vote to her - and I was leaning Edwards before this.

It seems like she has the right mix of ideas and know-how to get it done.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 04:09 PM
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77. Was it her pro war stance that convinced you?
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 04:56 PM
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79. Hmmmm... In which one of your 47 posts since March 2007 did you 'lean' in favor of Edwards?
Surprising.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 05:06 PM
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80. I must be an anomaly...
I don't see how it is possible to "win" one of these debates. Although it is possible to lose. :)
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 05:43 PM
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82. Nice.......
K&R
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 07:21 PM
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86. Edwards
The ONLY clear choice. Everyone else is...just somebody else.

K&R
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 07:23 PM
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87. Deservedly. He did very, very well.
Obama was no slouch either!
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 07:41 PM
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88. kick
:kick:
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 08:26 PM
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89. I'm an Edwards supporter, and he's the only one talking real issues of poverty, etc. nt
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Dem_4_Life Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 08:35 PM
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90. He deserves that.
That is fantastic news!!! Go Johnny!!!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 08:44 PM
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91. Prediction: 1.Edwards-2.Obama-3.Clinton -> get ready for the crying agame part 2.
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