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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:44 AM
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Former executive: Ads for male enhancement pill mostly bogus (Enzyte)
Former executive: Ads for male enhancement pill mostly bogus


CINCINNATI (AP) -- Magazine and radio ads promoting an herbal tablet billed as a sexual enhancement product for men featured bogus testimonials from customers and phony doctors, a former executive testified at a federal fraud trial against the supplement company.

James Teegarden Jr., former vice president of operations at Berkeley Premium Nutraceuticals, said Tuesday that he and others at the company made up much of the content that appeared in Enzyte ads.

"So all this is a fiction?" U.S. District Court Judge S. Arthur Spiegel asked about some of the claims. "That's correct, your honor," Teegarden said.

Teegarden, who has pleaded guilty and is cooperating with prosecutors, said company employees created fictitious doctors to endorse the pills, fabricated a customer-satisfaction survey and made up numbers to back up claims about Enzyte's effectiveness.

Berkeley Nutraceuticals, based in suburban Forest Park, markets a number of products designed to boost energy and manage weight, but its main business is Enzyte, which promises men a bigger penis.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OH_ENZYTE_TRIAL_OHOL-?SITE=WBNSTV&SECTION=HOME
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:46 AM
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1. Inflated claims. n/t
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:13 PM
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49. ...
:spray:
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 06:19 PM
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65. yup, most don't work, friend of mine used Boston Clinics
apparently, they do work!
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:46 AM
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Shocking! You mean pills can't grow my wang?
:sarcasm:
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:50 AM
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Nope - stretching it daily does help though
:)
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:56 AM
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17. No it doesn't--trust me.
:thumbsup:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:14 PM
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50. Can you guys argue and demonstrate in some other forum?
:spray:
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:30 PM
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42. Somebody should tell that to 90 percent of my e-mail
Sheesh...I keep sending them money and more money but they just won't stop...:silly:
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Angela Shelley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:46 AM
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2. ... another 600,000 Christmas presents, down the drain!
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:46 AM
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3. Not true!
When a friend of mine heard this news, he flushed his remaining Enzyte pills down the toilet, and it quickly grew into a full-sized bathtub.
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Larry Ogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:02 PM
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22. I had a friend that had some in his wallet…
And It turned into a suitcase…

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:48 AM
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4. Say it isn't so!
Smiling Bob lying to me. On my teevee, no less.

If Berkeley Premium Pharmaceuticals made even a nickel off their blast ads on the cable channels with that sub-moronic campaign, and race car, and on and on, it only shows that P.T. Barnum was right. And fools and their money deserve to be parted.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:48 AM
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5. Who is surprised by this? Show of hands, please.
:eyes:
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:54 AM
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15. Let's make that BOTH hands! nt
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:55 AM
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16. .
:spray:
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:50 AM
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6. Hey, it's okay, as long as they're EARNING PROFITS!
:sarcasm:
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:51 AM
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7. As Maria Muldaur once said......
"it ain't the meat, it's the motion".

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Larry Ogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:58 PM
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38. That’s right jojo
And the angle of the dangle is proportionate to the heat of meat times the mass of the ass…


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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:51 AM
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8.  So I'm guessing "Smiling Bob" was a fake, too. Put him on the stand.
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Larry Ogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:07 PM
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40. Isn’t smiling Bob related to
Mr. Buzzer and Ever Ready
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:53 PM
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45. If he takes the stand, we need before and after pictures. We need evidence.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:21 PM
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55. Let's see how he measures up! /nt
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Larry Ogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 04:58 PM
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63. Are you referring to the type of evidence
Such as what they got from Michel Jackson? Please say it isn’t so…


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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 06:17 PM
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64. If Smilin' Bob turns into Droopy Drawers Frownin' Stan, there's some explanin' to do.
Withdrawal sympthoms, or whatever. Under oath. Here comes the Judge.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 07:14 PM
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67. Oh, man, is he a hoot or what?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:51 AM
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9. I am shocked
The drug companies in America would take advantage of the American consumer. Hard to believe!

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:03 PM
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23. NOT a "drug company"
it was a NUTRICITICAL company. see the difference?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:26 PM
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33. Snake Oil
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cloudbase Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:52 AM
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10. So, then,
what was it that REALLY satisfied Mrs. Bob?
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:54 AM
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14. Probably "Smilin' Barb". n/t
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:52 AM
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11. But what about Smilin' Bob??1!?
He's worked long and hard, hitting the wood, to ensure it's staying power.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:52 AM
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12. Does this mean Hummers don't make you any bigger either?
Small penis complex.... Only an issue in a man's head.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:29 PM
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58. No, Hummers still work. Harleys too.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:54 AM
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13. Gosh, no one could have forseen THIS. How much you wanna bet
the corporate bigwigs at the company are Republicans, too??
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Larry Ogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:24 PM
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31. Yep, big promises
With little to no results
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:16 PM
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52. I see that the puns are coming fast and furious!
:spray:
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:57 AM
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18. Can we lose the product but keep...
the adds? I love all the oh-so-subtle Freudian imagery.
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Larry Ogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:59 AM
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19. So much for all of my big dreams…
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 12:11 PM by Larry Ogg
I guess the wife will just have to deal with my 6 and 15/16” like she always has…

Now watch buzclick come along and say, “That’s all he had when he was a boy…”


Edited because of a big mistake
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:02 PM
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21. .
:wow:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:17 PM
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53. you have 2 of them?
:wow:
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:06 PM
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24. Well, D'uh!!! If anyone believes ANYTHING on ANY commercials,
they deserve exactly what they get. Head on, Apply Directly to the Forehead.....and on and on. Where do all of these gullible people (" I trust corporations, I trust our leaders, I trust what I read, I trust what they say on TV") come from, anyway?!?!?!?!
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:07 PM
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26. That head on stuff works though
I bought some as a joke for the wife and it turns out it works pretty darn well and fast.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:24 PM
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30. No it does work
It is a homeopathic remedy. By definition it does not work.

The placebo effect exists. If it works for you, fine. There are ways to maximize the placebo effect. In fact in recent weeks there was a popular book puiblished about the placebo effect and how to maximize it.

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Larry Ogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:38 PM
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36. Just as you were starting to soften the effects of the conversation
You use the word “maximize”
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:37 PM
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35. Placebo Effect. Head On has NO Active ingredients!
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 12:46 PM by NRaleighLiberal
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:12 PM
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48. If you pay attention, the ad doesn't even make any medical claims
It just says to put it on your forehead. Nothing about headaches, pain relief, just put it on your forehead for the hell of it. So I guess it's not false advertising...
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:18 PM
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54. that commercial gives me a headache. nt
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Larry Ogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:15 PM
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27. Just goes to show you
People have big dream…
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:06 PM
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25. "Expensive pill for a bigger dick? Sure! Sign me up!"
Yet more snake oil salesmen selling to idiots by using sexual insecurity.

Great day to be a skeptic.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:16 PM
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28. I guess that means that the grow your boobs commercials are fake too
Damn, I wondered why it wasn't working. :evilgrin:
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:11 PM
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41. Hope you really didn't try it.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:32 PM
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43. No, iI was kidding.
Thanks.
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:20 PM
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29. The same people who bought this crap
probably also voted for Bush. You can fool 28% of the population all the time!
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:26 PM
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32. The nutritional supplement industry is a nasty business
No regulation, no need to prove your product works and no oversight. It makes me upset to hear these commercials that are patently false.
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Larry Ogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:45 PM
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37. So how many bottles did you buy?
Just asking… :popcorn:


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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:05 PM
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39. All I have to say is that I am very strong in the pants.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:29 PM
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34. What wrong with this? They're just trying to get a 3rd leg up on the competition.
:spank:
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:39 PM
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44. ...
"Phony doctors? Hello."

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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:08 PM
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47. Hi everybody!

"Enzyte works pretty good, possibly!"
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:23 PM
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56. sigh
Dr. Nick! I am depressed now.
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GaYellowDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:00 PM
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46. I'll bet that if you drew a Venn diagram...
of Enzyte users, drivers who put the testicles on their trucks, and Bush voters, you'd see so much overlap that you'd mistake it for a single circle.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:15 PM
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51. If you listen to the ads, it is clear that they are fabricated
They don't even make sense to someone who has any common sense. Good to see they admit it though.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:27 PM
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57. Noooo! You think????
:wow:

Who would have thought?

:sarcasm:
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:14 PM
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59. Oh no!
I guess I'm stuck with what I've got.
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:56 PM
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60. And in other news
pope is Roman Catholic, water is wet and snow is cold. I wondered why those damned commercials weren't on as much as they had been. Nothing like a law suit to deflat sales revenues I guess.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 04:04 PM
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61. Duh
If you notice, they never make an explicit claim about what the pills do.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 04:09 PM
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62. But that guy on the ads looks so HAPPY!
Of course, they never explicitly say WHY he's so happy.. But... But...

Jeezus, first you're going to take away my truck testicles, next you want to remove all hope of my paying $19.95 to magically enlarge my dick? Oh, the humanity! What next?
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 07:11 PM
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66. If I remember correctly,
Smiling Bob never said anything about enlargement, but instead said enhancement. Whatever the hell that means.

Regards, Mugu
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 07:19 PM
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69. It's about quality, not quantity...
Your dick, now with 20% more penis per inch! :D
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:54 PM
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72. I make no argument about quality vs. quantity.
My only point is that they never said anything about enlargement, but instead claimed enhancement and nobody can define exactly what enhancement is. Very clever, most people hear/think enlargement, but they never said that. Anybody that believed their claims...

Regards, Mugu
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 07:16 PM
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68. Wait... How Could It POSSIBLY Not Work? I Mean, Did You SEE The Smile On That Guy's Face?
This stuff's just GOTTA be real!
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 07:21 PM
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70. Not to mention the smile on his wife's face!
What more testimonial than that does one need?
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 07:25 PM
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71. Did the ads show before and after photos?
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