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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:19 AM
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"Nothing will change if we trade a bunch of corporate Republicans for a bunch of corporate Democrats
Edwards says he can make necessary changes

RENO GAZETTE-JOURNAL
1/17/2008

In an election with candidates of both parties calling for change, Democrat John Edwards said Wednesday he is the best candidate to bring it about.

"I'm the only one who has never taken a dime from a Washington lobbyist or special interest PAC," Edwards told a supportive crowd of more than 1,000 at a town hall meeting at the Grand Sierra Resort in Reno.

Edwards, former North Carolina U.S. senator and 2004 vice presidential candidate, said corporations and their lobbyists control Washington and the country needs a president that isn't beholden to them.

"Nothing will change if we trade a bunch of corporate Republicans for a bunch of corporate Democrats," Edwards said.

story: http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080117/NEWS19/801170354/1232
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:19 AM
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1. K&R!
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KillCapitalism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:20 AM
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2. And that is why my vote goes to Edwards! n/t
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:22 AM
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3. it's true
because the little letter in front of their name doesn't really mean much when they're in some corporation's pocket.
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:23 AM
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4. this is the message! K & R!
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:24 AM
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5. So Edwards acknowledges the lack of difference?
Wow. Under DU rules, that means he is banned for life, right? :eyes:
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Fading Captain Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:34 AM
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8. hehe.
Good one.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:25 AM
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6. This is funny, coming from a man whose Wall St. and legal ties are well known.
Both sectors are backing Edwards, but yet he manages to claim that he's not a corporate controlled candidate. Whatever:eyes: A faux populist is what he is. If you want somebody who really has no corporate ties, Kucinich is your man, the rest are just pretenders.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:22 PM
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17. Let's FINALLY get something straight... Lawyers do NOT have limited liability like corporations
You cannot be serious in making the argument that because Edwards is supported by many lawyers that he is somehow corporately compromised by that.

And it has been posted hundreds of times on this site that the biggest corporate backed Democratic CAndidates are Hillary and Obama.

I guess that makes your post a 'faux pas' doesn't it?
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:29 AM
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20. The amount of liability of a law firm vs a corporation isn't the issue here
The fact of the matter is that Edwards is still beholden to them, and like any politician beholden to a particular corporate sector, he will be overly influenced by their needs and wishes, just like any other corporation.

So if Hillary and Obama are the biggest corporate backed candidates, that still doesn't mean that Edwards isn't corporately compromised. The only candidate that isn't corporately compromised is Kucinich since he hasn't taken corporate money. You know, the third biggest volcano in the world going off will still kill a lot of people, so your argument falls flat.

Oh, and what about all those Wall St. financial firms? What, you don't think that they're going to make a difference in Edwards positions if he gets the WH? Look what happened when those same firms backed Bill, the repeal of Glas-Steagal, merger mania, and much more.

Sorry, but Edwards is indeed a corporate candidate, no matter how much he steals from Kucinich, no matter how much he claims otherwise. His shit stinks just like the rest. Deal with it.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:32 AM
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7. We cannot make it without him.
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Chicken George Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:20 AM
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9. Hmmm Who was saying something similar in 2000?
And WTF did we end up with then?
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:43 AM
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10. I'll still take a corporatist Dem over a corporatist Republican any day...
...but he's right that that wouldn't produce much positive change.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:53 AM
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11. K&R
We have to turn this corporate-owned system on it's ass. If we don't do it now we are doomed. Our America will become further and further out of reach and we will become more and more serfs of the few, with a Constitution turned to dust.
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:56 AM
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12. Did 2006 election really change anything, John Edwards is out best chance for change.
Met the new boss, same as the old boss.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:39 PM
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13. kick
:kick:
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:40 PM
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14. Rah rah rah, and the minds fail to change
:sarcasm:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:42 PM
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15. The truthful quote.
Hopefully it still has legs for those that recognize the influence problem.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:15 PM
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16. Sig
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 06:26 PM
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19. very good.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 06:15 PM
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18. kick
:kick:
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