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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:42 PM
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Yes Indeed Obama, Reagan "put us on a fundamentally different path" All Right!!
A path that should NEVER have been paved. :argh: :mad: :grr:

FUCK RONNIE.....

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SEN. BARACK OBAMA: I think Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that, you know, Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. He put us on a fundamentally different path, because the country was ready for it. I think they felt like, you know, with all the excesses of the ’60s and ’70s and, you know, government had grown and grown, but there wasn’t much sense of accountability in terms of how it was operating. And I think people just tapped in—he tapped into what people were already feeling, which was we want clarity, we want optimism, we want, you know, a return to that sense of dynamism and, you know, entrepreneurship that had been missing.


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AMY GOODMAN: Didn’t that wealth transfer massively begin—I mean, accelerate with Reagan?

DAVID CAY JOHNSTON: Oh, yes. No, that’s—I’m sorry, that’s exactly my point, Amy, is that what happened is that we put in place all sorts of new programs, many of which were never written about in the news media, that got no attention whatsoever. We created healthcare billionaires while making healthcare unavailable to one-in-seven Americans. And we did this with government money. We allowed people to buy public assets for, in some cases, a fraction of a penny on the dollar and then poured government money into them.

And, you know, our national myth that Ronald Reagan ran for office on was that there were all these welfare queen Cadillacs—welfare queens driving Cadillacs out there. I think there was, in fact, one scam artist who went to prison. But what’s really going on is welfare at the top, and way beyond what’s been reported in the news media as corporate welfare. We have built into the scaffolding of the new economy rules that funnel money to the top.

And that this has happened really shouldn’t surprise us, because under our campaign finance system, which has gotten worse and worse and worse with campaign finance reform that hasn’t worked, politicians running for high office spend a great deal of their time talking not to you and me and school teachers and police officers and firefighters and factory workers, but to rich people and their paid representatives. And they hear about their concerns and what they say they need to make things fair.

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/1/18/free_lunch_how_the_wealthiest_americans
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:46 PM
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1. You know these candidates have all been through a lot and are tired as hell
I could see myself making stupid mistakes like this on an off day. I bet Barack wouldn't say it again if he had time to think it over.

Don
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:51 PM
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2. I think Obama needs to explain his remarks
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:52 PM
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3. you are kinder than I, Don
I would not take that bet. :(
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 04:30 PM
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10. Was he tired when he wrote his book? Cuz he said it plenty of times there too
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:54 PM
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4. How on EARTH could Obama say anything he said? And he didn't just say one thing!
He paid plenty of compliments to Reagan in a mere couple of sentences!!!
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:34 PM
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5. in the end, it's all good versus bad, life versus death
regan was death, bad, the other, and obama is too if he doesn't denounce regan....
the regan shooting by john hinkley appears to have been part of a scheme to help defraud the american people (hinkley was sent to hospital despite efforts by the jury to convict him to jail- the court refused to accept a guilty verdict... imagine that)
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 03:17 PM
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6. K+R
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 03:25 PM
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7. K & R and I bet Obama comes to rue the day he ever muttered those words!
:grr: Ronald Reagan? Of all the past presidents he could have talked about.... he chose Ronald REAGAN? Stupid, stupid, stupid.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 04:34 PM
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11. Pundits won't say, but I'm sure union people in Nevada reacted already to that
We'll never have the "Raygun effect" measured - and somehow, it was the only question I wanted in those entrance polls ("were you swayed by any statement by any candidate in a recent interview?")
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 04:13 PM
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8. Hopeless.......to deal with those who
would willfully "want" to interpret what Obama said to further their own agenda, by spreading out of context snips of a 55 minute interview. That actually tells me more about you than about anything that Obama stated in reference to why Reagan was able to sweep into office.

Intellectual dishonesty is everywhere, and certainly it is in your post full center. Understand that those who have even a shred of integrity can see what you are doing. But keep it up, as there are enough exactly like you that y'all can help each other feel vindicated and justified about this nonsense that you are looking to perpetuate. Have fun with your false outrage and indignation; you and your like minds.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 04:25 PM
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9. Thank God Raygun brought "accountability" - Iran -Contra, Star Wars,
over 100 members of his administration indicted for corruption, exploding the national debt...I'd like to know how Reagan changed what Nixon started and how Bush is so different from Reagan...
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farmboxer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 05:34 PM
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12. Obama's Reagan is "not" my Reagan!
Reagan did a lot of harm to American working people. Edwards told it like it was! I can't believe Obama said such about Reagan!
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