What it all boils down to for me (RANT)

:rant:

Hillary - too much baggage and takes too much corprat and lobbyist money - Ms. DLC (Republican Lite). Don't like her policies or her record.

Obama - ALSO takes too much corprat and lobbyist money and is too naive, inexperienced and prone to just such stupid blunders as the Reagan thing - and wants to "work with" the robber barons (Republicans and corprats - the plutocracy). WTF? It's been tried, will fail, has failed for 30+ years.

This is naive duJour - you have to kick their ass and fight them - you CANNOT "work with" them - they're CRIMINALS for chrissake - helloo? Flowery talk of cooperation gets nowhere with these guys. Puhleeeze.

Edwards - hated by corprats and corprat media 'cause he's got their number, won't take their money, therefore won't be controlled by them, and will break up their little robber-baron stranglehold on the country and the media. He's our only hope but blacked out by the media and AmeriKKKa is too stupid, ignorant, and complacent to even look elsewhere besides Fox, CNN, and MSNBC, so they think there are ONLY two candidates to support. Doh. Edwards WHO?

DON'T TRY TO TELL ME that corporations don't BUY our candidates and presidents (see chart below).

The treatment John Edwards gets (ie: ignored or sheistered) by the corprat-owned media as compared to Clinton and Obama is living proof that they do.

And as always we have the "best" candidates CORPRAT MONEY CAN BUY and promote. The rest get ignored, marginalized, sheistered.

That's what happened to Edwards. HE COULDN'T BE BOUGHT by them and wouldn't be CONTROLLED by them in office were he elected (cause that's what it's about - control - their money buys it). So the edict for the corprats is to see to it that he is NOT elected - and they've been very busy doing just that.

There you go.

People don't WANT change.

If they did, they'd elect a president who cannot be bought - but they won't.

Partially because they're idiots, partially because with corprats controlling the process, they can't - not until that problem is fixed.

There's one guy I know would at least try to fix it. The rest of the candidates haven't even mentioned it (probably because they are PART of it). But he likely won't be elected due to this little noose of a catch-22 the corprats have American voters stuck in - much to their apparent oblivion.

And people are all "oohhh! Ahhhh!" over the fact that we have a black and a woman running - because they LOOK different.

Hyea. And people see that as "change".

Nevermind WHAT'S INSIDE that black/female packaging.

Hint: It's NOT "CHANGE"!

It's not "change" when the black guy and the woman have been bought, promoted by, and will be controlled by those same old corporations when they're in office just like all the others before them. (it IS quid-pro-quo, Clarice...quid-pro-quo).

Oh sure, they LOOK different on the outside - but they're not. But eh, who's looking, eh? The box is blue instead of red and that's all that matters innit? (who cares that what's inside is the same ol same ol crap). Pffft!

Americans are SOOO easily blinkered.

And hey! Isn't Survivor on in 30 minutes? Oh look! Sharks! Another pretty white girl gone missing! And Britney is preggers again! Oh my! Jeeeze. All the other "priorities" we have...

Maybe I'll just write in the name of my cat and be done with it.

Or I'll write in Edwards - most likely.

Hmph. 'Mericans are idjits and their "elections" are a farce - the candidates are pre-chosen FOR US by the corporations and corporate-owned media.

Oh sure, we have pseudo- "elections" - but they are just a pretense, a ruse - to keep people from rallying in the streets by letting them THINK they are choosing their own leaders.

THEY'RE NOT.

It's already been decided for us. And once again, Americans are SOOO easily blinkered.

We haven't had real viable elections here in 7-8 years at LEAST and probably not well before that. You know, where the PEOPLE CHOOSE their candidates and presidents to best represent THEM (NOT Halliburton and Cigna) and where the VOTES ARE ALL COUNTED SOMEWHAT ACCURATELY?

What a 'quaint' idea, eh?

DOH!

This is fucked up.

Fucked up.

Majorly.

And I don't expect much CHANGE anytime soon.

Not trying to lighten your rant but that is just comical.

Wonder what the hell Rudy's gonna do now. Mrs. Rudy will probably start scouting out her next husband since this one is obviously going nowhere.

...and if he's not on the ballot in the GE, I'll write him in. NO WAY am I voting Hillary. Obama - ehg.

If I lived in a state that might be key I might get behind one of them but this state usually goes red in presidentials. Might change my mind later about the write-in but for now, that's where I am.

I absolutely will not change my mind on who to support meanwhile. It's Edwards or no one. That is non-negotiable.

And try to get as many as possible to do so.

It;'s good to see the unwavering being represented here! :hi:

If Americans don't comprehend the depth of corruption,
and particularly in the democratic party, yes, I'm
talking about the MSM force fed leading black and female candidates
"representing" the democratic party, while in fact their
asses are beholden to global corporate interests,
as in HOW FUCKING STUPID CAN PEOPLE BE, then
the country is lost.
There is no fight without recognizing that the ENEMY is
in our camp and the campers are too fucking American Idolized,
where politics are concerned, to rationally evaluate the situation.
THAT is the FIGHT, to wake these fucking people who actually
think more Hill-Bill or Obama will save the country from
the global fat cats.

BHN

...the only word I can come up with is "blinkered". It's SOO easy to corral and control Americans because they're so darned gullible, lazy, and complacent - and agonizingly unable to see the big picture of what's going on, who the players are, and to think a little bit before buying or swallowing whole a concept, candidate, or meme.

Like Edwards said: "We're BETTER than this."

Are we?

Maybe not. And THAT is disappointing and heartbreaking to see. It really is, for me.

I'd say it's official.
We have lost the country with the complicity of the masses.
The ignorant, self righteous masses.
And yes, I'm talking about both sides of the aisle.
BHN

...and the majority consented to it. I saw Edwards as the last chance to save what of it was left after bu$hco got done but...the DLC and some very ignorant voters just finished the job, instead.

There's the heartbreak, right there.

all the posts that act as if he'd announced he's out of the race. It is SO not over. The fat lady isn't even in her dresing room yet. ;)

But I'm WITH YOU 100%!!!!
Fuck the "black" man and the "woman."
BOTH puppets of the corporacrats.

Gotta run now and bury my head in more corporate infotainment.
Just wanted to thank you.
BHN:thumbsup:

Our system seems to be broken and no one knows how to fix it.

:shrug:

We needed John Edwards to win, IMHO.

..with the system rigged as it is, he'll never have that opportunity.

you might be able to find out.

:kick:
And kicked.
BHN

although I support Kucinich over someone who sponsored the invasion of Iraq

ABSOLUTELY

I'd like to post them elsewhere.

I understand where you are coming from and I know those feelings all too well from being a Kucinich supporter for the last two primary seasons. There is a silver lining, though. I don't think that there has been a candidate preaching an anti-corporate message like Edwards to make even as much headway as he has to this point in a long time. It's going to take a long time to rid the government of corporate influence which has been prevalent ever since corporations were created. I'm hoping that candidates like Edwards and Kucinich will be seen as the early pioneers that helped rid us of government by the corporations for the corporations.

...they were strung all together by a previous DU poster and I snagged his/her graphic but that's the source of them.

Right-click on the graphic and choose 'copy link location' or 'save as' to get the link to the graphic or to save it. If I post the link here the graphic will just show up again.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3147831

That's right, keep voting for the fire sale of this country.
Clinton, Obama?
NO difference from the PTB, as a matter of fact
they are backed by the very same powers that
profit most from the sale of America.
HOW FUCKING STUPID can people BE????


BHN:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Their answers were of course obvious. They don't HAVE to cede to these donators.

Aint NAFTA and the WTO grand?
Thanks Bill. Thanks Bush.
Thanks to all the dumbfucks from both parties
who have and continue to vote against AMERICAN interests.

BHN

..their own best interests. Just distract them with something pretty and new and shiny and some nice words and they'll buy it, want it, vote for it.

blinkered...

I won't lift a finger for them in the GE. Still not quite sure about Obama since he is not so much a war criminal.

...Hillary makes me ill.

be the new alternative?


:rofl:

"I'll write in Edwards" is my game-plan if Clinton or Obama is nominated. I refuse to "settle" for inferiority or become an Enabler of the Corporatists.

Recommend.



              Edwards '08 tees!

..unless my state is in play which I doubt it will be. I plan to vote late in the GE and expect it will go red anyway so my write-in will just go into the ether.

Wish I wrote it.

...that makes me feel good but I still feel bad about what my country seems to have devolved into.

It really hurts to watch your own country swirling down into the septic tank. And nothing you can do.

he'll do anything different?

I like the rhetoric but I'm afraid that that is all that it is.

FDR and Chimp ran in the middle then went to opposite corners.

It's always a pig in a poke.

I WORK for and belong to the Democratic Party because there is no other choice, and even THAT isn't much of one.

You state very succinctly WHY I call myself a (Democratic) Socialist. There will be no major change until power is RIPPED from the blood covered, grasping claws of the Rich Capitalist Pigs who have taught the Citizenry that the best choice is ALWAYS to let themselves be ripped off so that they MIGHT get a dime or two.

http://folk.ntnu.no/makarov/temporary_url_20070929kldcg/internationale-ru1.mp3

I always thought it sounded better in Russian.

...and have a president who is willing to help - this country will continue to go swirling down the shitter.

So a'swirling it goes...

I expect at some point (beyond 2008, IMO) it will be TOO LATE to EVER be able to rip our country out of the blood covered, grasping, greedy claws of the Rich Capitalist Pigs who defile this country and blinker an ever-oblivious, lazy, complacent and ignorant populace into voting against its own best interests.

Here we go...down the hole with the turds.

All morning I've been mulling over these exact facts and was going to post something like it. Now I don't need to, you did it better than I would have.

Nicely done!

Thank you for ranting.

...of the soul of this country and the soul of the Democratic Party to corprat profit and control with the full participation of an ignorant, blinkered, and oblivious voting public.

But...such is life in these United States.

Reasonable people I know who are actually fairly aware about the "fix" we're in have been fooled royally by Obama. What a cultivated phenomenon! Some just don't dig quite deep enough. Some lump together all "white men" as responsible for the mess and are desperate enough to grab at the shiny change that is offered up, blindly accepting that it is genuine change. I look at the eyes of the candidates, they tell a lot.

record.


Here's Hillary's:


http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=55463

Of course, anyone in the Senate can be attacked on their record. Things are not black and white like in the House. Still looking at their voting record can give an indication of what side they are on.