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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:10 PM Original message |
The Only "Change" Americans Will Get From This Corporate Political Process is "Chump Change" |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
1. Great post, but it leads to a question.......... |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I sure hope that Q was sarcasm... |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
3. From what I have seen, most DU'ers don't care about outsourcing... |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. No offense, but: Can you cite a stat? Or is that your personal observation? |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. personal observation...I've raised the issue...they don't seem to care. n/t |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Then DU has devolved into nothing more than Byzantine "Green vs Blue" hooliganism... |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I think it's like health insurance...if you haven't been burned by it or know someone who has... |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. A lot of people are just here to push one candidate, not |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. .."I didn't have to be burned by it (outsourcing) to know that." Thank you. |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:11 AM Response to Reply #7 |
35. on health care |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. I'll go you one further... They don't UNDERSTAND or COMPREHEND the REAL issues |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #19 |
39. They're not supposed to... |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. Nor do too many have ANY desire to... |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. such has been the case |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #6 |
38. Perfect |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Important to distinguish Roman (western) from Byzantine (eastern) empires |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. No prob |
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rAVES (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
43. They do, but its difficult to be sincere AND Shill for the people that brought us NAFTA. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. I care more about outsourcing and H1B's stealing jobs than anything else |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Another topic that the corporate media has pronounced not fit for consumption n/t |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. I posted a thread on outsourcing today, but Primary threads keep hogging the bandwidth |
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stravu9 (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
8. Oh, God, I know you are Right! |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
10. excellent post |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
11. The real issues are what the corporate media are afraid of. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. The same is true on C-Span... "click" they hang up on any caller who starts in on corporatism |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
28. They're not afraid of a damn thing... |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. DAMN WP!!! That post deserves it's own thread!!! |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Go ahead and use it yourself if you want to... |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #31 |
45. It Made Me Cry |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #28 |
44. well said, warren! |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #28 |
50. You said it far more eloquently than I , but |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
13. How many people think Voltaire is a brand of electric heater? |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Hey, I was trying to keep it subtle w that quote. :-) n/t |
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Yuugal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Voltaire rox! |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Huh? The Corpse Bride? Is that the right link? n/t |
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Yuugal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. The song is by Voltaire |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Blow me away! I didn't know that. Thanks. n/t |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
30. I don't know, but... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
14. That, and the likely winners are hardly liberal. |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
15. Another great arendt post |
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ProgressIn2008 (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
18. Excellent post -- who will address the looting of the country? News at thirteen o'clock. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
23. Recommend # 10 |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
29. Pennies to the dollar. |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 08:28 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. 75% want out of Iraq, and we get to choose between "100 years" McCain and Kyl-Lieberman HRC n/t |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
32. It's pretty discouragining. Sheesh, nominal tax rebates are going to save the economy? |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:48 AM Response to Original message |
34. kicking |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
37. Morning kick n/t |
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catmandu57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
41. I guess maybe I'm just too fucking tired |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. I have my "King of Hearts" days, where I just want to check into a loony bin and... |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. If I Didn't Have My Six Year Old I Would Have Killed Myself Two Years Ago |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. O'mygosh! |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. Thank You I Needed To Hear That |
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catmandu57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. You and me both |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Yes |
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catmandu57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Sounds good |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Oh Her |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
48. Considering the way the economy is going, they'll be asking for spare "change". |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
57. the hardest thing for me is to figure |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Maybe, we're denying how difficult it is to keep up, here in the U.S.A. |
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lisainmilo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
59. Nice post! That's the same thing we got in 2001, isn't it? |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
60. and some of us, not even the change |
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