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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 04:49 PM
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Obama was endorsing the Reagan years!
Oops. No he wasn't.

You people who don't understand that Obama was using that as an example of a period of change due to the political climate without saying it was GOOD, are as bad as the right-wing morons who think Time Magazine's choice of Person of the Year is an endorsement of that person's actions.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 04:50 PM
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1. Well I'll be damn, thanks for clearing that up!
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 04:53 PM
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2. The only example he could have used that would have been worse
is to have made the comparison to Hitler, Lenin, or Mao.

So he picked the FOURTH worst example of political change in modern history.

That's laudable. Really.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 04:54 PM
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3. Forget it. There was nothing positive about reagan
or anything reagan did. Particularly while bushing aside Clinton & Carter. Obama seems to be suffering from a bad case of the hubris.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 05:03 PM
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4. I disagree with his analysis. Reagan was a Retro President who gave hope of a return
to a mythical America. .........he wasn't transforming, He was a return to the old way of doing things....

after what Obama referred to as the "excesses of the 60s and 70s". The 60s and the 70s were the transformational years.
"excesses of the 60s and 70s" are right wing code for being antiwar and pro womens rights and civil rights.


Obama had plenty of time in his interview to clarify that he was not saying Reagan's actions were good. He did not do so.

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 05:07 PM
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5. Obama was being a little too much of the professor with those comments
They were too academic for your average uneducated person to understand. In the future he should save remarks like that for college lectures.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 05:12 PM
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6. Okay, here's what Obama said about Reagan.
"I don't want to present myself as some sort of singular figure. I think part of what's different are the times. I do think that for example the 1980 was different. I think Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. He put us on a fundamentally different path because the country was ready for it. I think they felt like with all the excesses of the 1960s and 1970s and government had grown and grown but there wasn't much sense of accountability in terms of how it was operating. I think people, he just tapped into what people were already feeling, which was we want clarity we want optimism, we want a return to that sense of dynamism and entrepreneurship that had been missing."

SOUNDS LIKE PRAISE TO ME!
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 05:30 PM
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7. Soiunds like praise to me too
As someone who grew up a female in segregated Alabama, the 60's and 70's weren't about excesses. They were about women and African Americans getting a chance at good jobs; they were about equal pay for equal work.

So many young people can't conceive of how unfair the laws were before the Dems changed them.

For example, when I moved to Massachusetts, my husband and I could not qualify for a mortgage. Even though I was working, my husband was not (he was in grad school) and only his earnings could be considered.

I was teaching school and got pregnant. The school would not allow me to teach after the 4th month (or when I "showed"). I could not teach again until my youngest child was two years old.

Just two examples of sex discrimination that applied to me.

Do you wonder why older voters were turned off by Obama's comment?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 05:32 PM
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8. Certainly does, doesn't it?
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