MSNBC: Edwards campaign is over.

"He failed to become a Bill Clinton new-Democrat and instead moved left and embraced the Daily KOS crowd."

Just "announced" by the panel of talking shitheads. They acknowledge that the entire debate has shifted to the economy now, but not once, not one time, did they mention that that's where John Edwards has been all along. Any of you people who still think the media isn't deciding this race for us, well...you're delusional.

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a beating, but he has taken Obama off his game. Every minute Obama spends responding, that is one minute he is off message. The top story on ABC is the Bill and Obama war of words, not Obama's message to the voters.



There's some positioning going on but I haven't really got my mind around it to speak clearly about what is going on. Let's just say they are trying to back Obama into a corner.

I used to do something similar when I was a rural carrier associate. The regular carrier has a problem with a mail box or some other problem with a customer, I do the dirty work, I played the bad cop so the carrier can get the changes made without poisoning their relationship with their customers. "I like the carrier on our route, but her relief carrier is an asshole." Most rural carriers at my old station were women and would rather not tangle with some of the rustics on their routes.

because "...it's really a two person race."
He also ran the Edwards video (about how Edwards isn't being covered by the MSM and then scoffed at the video.
:grr:

Yep, they're controlling us all like puppets on a string.

Yeah, kinda like that.

-Hoot

it's quite blatant and telling really....the Media has already decided the race...so please follow along....

I still wake up every day...just hoping ...hoping that the mass' will take off the blinders and start accepting the fact that they have been duped...and do something about it....THE REST OF THE WORLD KNOWS IT.

"THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICAN IDOL" That is what we have here.


Please don't let the corporate elite win.

You named it.

It's been the race of "Hillary vs Obama" in the media from the very beginning.

One can only speculate as to why.......:scared:

MS-DLC and that piece of shit Chuck Fraud have been about one thing and one thing only: A Hillary coronation and continuation of the same old corporatist, warmongering Bush-Clinton pseudo-monarchy.

Seems like the US media all love Obama. And that's enough to worry me. A lot.

He has no experience and so presumably will be handing over the reigns at foreign policy and the economy to God knows who.

At least with Hillary you know what you might be getting and with Edwards there is the possibility of some populist economics.



With Obama there's only a dream and a pretty false one at that.

JMHO.

Edit to fix typo.

The inevitable candidate is still inevitable. The rest is merely a dog-and-pony show so we think we have a choice. We don't.

I have no use for blabbering bobbleheads all spouting the corporate line.

To hell with them. Their sponsors can find my warm body elsewhere.

I know their game and I won't play it. The sTalking shitheads are greed driven, hence their blatant bias against Edwards.

handpicked people, for whom we can put ALL our trust and faith into!

Yours,

Go Fuck Yourself.

I'm tired of them deciding who will run and who will win. Fuckers!

It means that within the next week, they will start pounding the drums and demanding John Edwards drop out of the race and he will comply within 2 weeks of the crescendo. Oh, for fuck's sake. Wake me when it's over.

consume, where the freedom of speech zones are, who will be the next President, where to live, who is good and who is bad. What gives these empty headed fucks the authority to bless anything people do. I ANNOUNCE THAT FREEDOM OF THE PRESS IS DEAD. :dem:

I feel for Edwards but now he knows how Kucinich feels

The media has made our decision for us.

And go to hell!

Damn I really liked Edwards and I hope these guys are wrong he was the *one* candidate who was right on most of the issues (And I say this despite the fact his health care plan was my least favorite of the 3)...

I'm afraid for John too, and if he doesn't do very well in SC on Sat. I'm afraid, even if he does stay in until Feb 5th, it sure would look bad. Don't pay so much attention to the MSM talking heads. They're all paid to fill air time and make it sound like they know what they're talking about, but NH sure made them all look like idiots, didn't it?

With Edwards, they're actively helping to disappear him.

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corps. who own the media sure don't want anyone as President who is anti-corp! Thom believes that's the main reason Edwards, Kucinich & Paul were ALL downplayed. That makes sense to me!

*sigh*

Thanks for posting the irony...

Let's just lay it all out on the line. The Republicans want Clinton for the nominee. It's been pretty obvious all along, but they have made Obama a sensation as well.

They're going to start saying Edwards should drop out. Maybe he will, maybe he won't.

Then, they're going to pull the rug out from Mr. Obama. That Rezko deal, or some other thing they're keeping under wraps until the time is right.

Which leaves: HILLARY! TA-DA!! Here's your candidate, Democrats. Go vote for her.

And let me tell you: Republicans HATE HILLARY. HATE. HATE. HATE. They don't even refer to her by name, instead calling her "that woman." As in, "I will vote for any Republican to keep that woman out of the White House."

Suddenly, the negative stories about Hillary start. Glowing stories begin about the GOP nominee, McHuckiani, and then you toss in a little election fraud with the electronic voting, and guess what...the Republicans keep the White House.

And most Americans will never know what hit them. Congratulations, America! How does it feel to be a sheep?

Because no matter how bad that novel is, it will be better than watching this rerun.

under control.

We have to change the culture.

I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

...the Republicans keep the White House. And only the ultra rich will survive.

Obama is being pushed as the savior candidate...Kerry endorses over his past running mate as well as other Dem senators....becomes nominee.

Oct. '08 assassination of dem candidate. Chaos, martial law, no elections.

Now that's how the neocons play ball.

and it has been obvious from the getgo and all these people on our side that defend hillary and obama are so naive it's sick

So much for a second in Iowa...

meltdown will give Edwards more of a chance to get his message out!! He can connect the dots! Audience may be more receptive to his message as their pensions and 401Ks melt into nothing and jobs evaporate.

ETA: I wonder if he'll mention it tonight at the Debate. The markets all over the world CRASHED big time today.

Edwards seems to think otherwise...and until JE says it's over, it isn't.

I'll go back to my only role in life of buying paisely ass wipe and applying my Head-On directly to the forehead.

Hmm? If you're supporting Clinton you're buying right into it. If you're supporting Obama, you're only slightly better off. If you're supporting any Democratic candidate who gets the heavy coverage in the corporate media, you're screwed, because their interest lies with the GOP, not with the American people. They'll pick the candidate for us whom they know they can easily take out. Now, I'm not among the crowd who thinks it's a lost cause for the Dems. I'm very confident a Democrat will be given the White House. But it will be a Corporatist, pro-war Democrat. IOW, we won't see much in the way of change. Change is bad for Corporate America.

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But the media back then marginalized him and gave me my marching orders as a mindless TV watcher. I'm not supposed to think for myself. My only function in life is to watch the talking heads choose the candidate for me while I remember to buy every product they advertise on my set.

It's easy to pretend to be serious about this shit when you know you can simply change the entire narrative with the next news broadcast.

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so that when they gin up the propoganda machines people with no memory past this morning will say "wow -- what a comeback!".

We complain, they ignore. We write letters, they burn 'em.

I hope Edwards stays in the entire race, takes his delegates to the Convention and mixes things up. SCREW THE MEDIA!:grr:

He has brought up the issue of class.

Can't have that.

Edwards is the new target.... we warned yall.

n/t

Will we get to see it in reruns? :crazy:

:puke:

And all the rest of you lemmings with the hoop through your nose being led around by the MSM can kiss my ass!

By force.

The MSM make certain their corporate masters have nothing to fear from populists like DK or JRE by taking away the air(time). Smother the populist campaign until it dies is their motto.

What are they going to do when all of the corporate masters take off to the Cayman Islands and they are left with *gasp* a pissed off public?

Damn, how I want to see the mighty hunbled.

They'll still be rich and powerful, and they'll be amused by the sight of those quisling Democrats crying, "But you said you LOVED me!!"

Edwards has been polling lower than the two 'front runners' and has had nowhere near the primary numbers of the two 'front runners'. And since there's a lock down on actual, substantive facts, and analysis of platoforms and candidate positions, the only story they can tell about Edwards is the one you're hearing.

Which came first, the media ignoring Edwards, or the people not knowing anything about him and therefore having no real reason to vote for him. They're covering ALL the republican candidates, even the hopeless causes like Ron Paul and Rudy Guiliani. But on the Dem side, they and they alone have determined it to be a two-person race, period. We apparently have to right to even hear the messages of the other candidates. Choose from the two WE say are "viable."

Edwards might be just as viable if the media didn't pretend he didn't exist and actually covered his policies and positions with the same American-Idol fervor they give to Clinton and Obama.

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Nothing new here.

Not saying its right .... just that its nothing new.

As for polling and media .... was Edwards blacked out by Iowa media? Do the national media matter as much as the local media and local appearances? He sure spent enough time there campaigning. He ended up down by 8 points.

What about NH? He trailed by 22 and 19 points, respectively, against the other two. Again, did the national media matter as much as local media and local appearances?

Those two states are the definition of retail politics.

Aren't they?

All people have heard the last year is Clinton/Obama, Sex/Race, bla bla bla

The white, southern Methodist never had a chance -- it wasn't in the cards for the ratings.

I don't like that he's not getting coverage, but the fact is, he isn't. He's also not the first candidate to get shit coverage. And his losses in NH and Iowa .... were his results in these two bastions of retail politics the fault of shitty national media coverage? Was the local media as shitty to him as is the national media?

until tomorrow.

No, really, WHAT????????????

talking head department.

god I hate these people.

race may give Obama enough coverage to take on the elites candidate. Edwards has been shoved out of it by the media but what do you expect when they completely blacked out Dennis Kucinich and his message. Not too many people around here gave a rats ass when Dennis was ignored and belittled and now its on to the next. Happens every election, what did we expect from a corrupt government?


If the media didn't have the country against each other, maybe more would have stood up when Gravel and Kucinich were shit on. Its only going to get worse in this country, much worse and I hope Americans wake up and start standing up for each other even if it doesn't affect them at that point.

No one seems to care when the issue doesn't hit their home but its coming.

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.

John Edwards has been talking about the economy since day one. He's been talking about how much influence the huge mega-corporations have, and that their power must be challenged. The talking shitheads can just STFU.

I'm still voting for Edwards on Super Tuesday. Fuck the M$M.

impartial? Edwards should sue, get an injunction or something. This has gone way over the bullshit boundary.

Power and plutocracy are too important to be ruined by Democracy.

Any message that rails against corporations and the wealthy getting their way 7 million-fold over the middle and poor classes = "embracing the Daily KOS Crowd". "Commie leftist!". "Protectionist!". "SOCIALIST!!!!"

When America burns the wealthy at the stakes, are they still going to ask "WHY"?

Vote your conscience in the primaries and caucuses. Even if your candidate does not win, your vote influences the party platform. Then vote for the Democrat in the general election.

Come on, let's be real. It's a two person race. Edwards got 4% in Nevada. Pathetic.

He hasnt one anything yet. And he is not going to. He's done.

And Kucinich? Please.

A lot of delusional people 'round here.

between one and won or the use of the apostrophe. :eyes:

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"moved Left"? "failed to become a Bill Clinton"? "embraced the Daily Kos crowd?"

You can call Edwards a lot of things, but certainly not a pandering opportunist who blows with the latest wind direction.

If he were, he would have "toned down" his message ages ago.

I consider Edwards to be a true progressive - thoughtful, no outrageous compromises, NOT a rigid idealogue.

He is what he's always been. I thought he was a great running mate for Kerry in '04.

I can? Great, thanks! ........... BULLSHIT !
That is all, back to you.

just to remind Edwards supporters more if need be, so they can contact MSNBC.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3303518

(follow down page to bottom right for msnbc tv)

not backig down:

did you see this:

Martin Luther King III urges John Edwards to stay in the race
http://www.johnedwards.com/news/20080121-mlk-iii-letter...

copy of letter:

January 20, 2008

The Honorable John E. Edwards
410 Market Street
Suite 400
Chapel Hill, NC 27516


Dear Senator Edwards:

It was good meeting with you yesterday and discussing my father’s legacy. On the day when the nation will honor my father, I wanted to follow up with a personal note.

There has been, and will continue to be, a lot of back and forth in the political arena over my father’s legacy. It is a commentary on the breadth and depth of his impact that so many people want to claim his legacy. I am concerned that we do not blur the lines and obscure the truth about what he stood for: speaking up for justice for those who have no voice.

I appreciate that on the major issues of health care, the environment, and the economy, you have framed the issues for what they are - a struggle for justice. And, you have almost single-handedly made poverty an issue in this election.

You know as well as anyone that the 37 million people living in poverty have no voice in our system. They don’t have lobbyists in Washington and they don’t get to go to lunch with members of Congress. Speaking up for them is not politically convenient. But, it is the right thing to do.

I am disturbed by how little attention the topic of economic justice has received during this campaign. I want to challenge all candidates to follow your lead, and speak up loudly and forcefully on the issue of economic justice in America.

From our conversation yesterday, I know this is personal for you. I know you know what it means to come from nothing. I know you know what it means to get the opportunities you need to build a better life. And, I know you know that injustice is alive and well in America, because millions of people will never get the same opportunities you had.

I believe that now, more than ever, we need a leader who wakes up every morning with the knowledge of that injustice in the forefront of their minds, and who knows that when we commit ourselves to a cause as a nation, we can make major strides in our own lifetimes. My father was not driven by an illusory vision of a perfect society. He was driven by the certain knowledge that when people of good faith and strong principles commit to making things better, we can change hearts, we can change minds, and we can change lives.

So, I urge you: keep going. Ignore the pundits, who think this is a horserace, not a fight for justice. My dad was a fighter. As a friend and a believer in my father’s words that injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere, I say to you: keep going. Keep fighting. My father would be proud.

Sincerely,



Martin L. King, III

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well send it to Msnbc !

they may as well have called Edwards the Liberal Elite

Sorry.

Hearing tweety annoint Hillary from the Nevada debate just made my stomach churn. Watching MSNBC omit John Edwards from the after debate shots just pissed me off. That was it. I'm done with MSNBC for the rest of the political process.

I don't know if CNN is any better. I'll just wait and go online for my political news from here on out.

JOIN THE REVOLUTION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZxOYF9ZAe0

enough to steal the election from Al Gore