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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:15 PM Original message |
Too poor? No tax rebate for you! |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. Sure. Everybody knows that poor people would blow it on alcohol... |
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catmandu57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Well I was going to buy marijuana with mine |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
115. Very good. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
44. In that case, why not let them bgooze themselves to death? |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #1 |
86. Whereas the wealthy,who know how better to spend, will buy Champagne! |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. We just CANT give the money to people most likely to spend it! |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Yes on Social Security n/t |
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Blaze Diem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
3. They're gonna fuck this up too. Just know it. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. yup, its like * is just throwing us an allowance to shut us up |
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Kansas Wyatt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
30. Bait & Switch |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
4. Tax rebates should go to the middle classes |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. There's no tax relief in the rebates |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. throwing bad money after bad...n/t |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Give me something meaningful... how about a public transit tax deduction? |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Public transit tax deduction? That'll be the day, with this administration! |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 08:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
49. The middle class (what's left of it)... |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 02:57 AM Response to Reply #26 |
60. Um, the poor drive the economy |
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Gemini Cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #60 |
97. Exactly. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #60 |
171. cgrindley is mistaken, to be kind. The poor in OTHER COUNTRIES drive the US economy |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #60 |
187. Absolutely... |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
170. WHAT Transit?? Virginia's Dem leaders are voting to privatize the only major carpool lane in DC area |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #170 |
179. That is the most absurd... |
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wishlist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #13 |
75. Media is failing to explain that rebates are just an advance on taxes owed |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
36. So ... who might that be? (Please refer to chart.) |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Give it to households making between $75k and $250k |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. So, you'd offer nothing to the bottom 75% of wage-earners? |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #41 |
71. But the bottom of my range assumes two average wage holders |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #71 |
80. The "average wage" is earned at close to the 70th percentile. |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #80 |
89. Well... use a household of two median earners as a minimum... $50k |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #89 |
135. You get nothing except comfortable living, perhaps. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #80 |
128. Deleted sub-thread |
TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #71 |
83. So--what about stay-at-home moms, and other households that |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #83 |
90. Stay at home moms should get jobs (nt) |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #90 |
101. "Let them eat cake." |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #90 |
103. Now that's bullshit. I was a stay at home mom off and on, when we |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #103 |
109. I was a stay at home dad and did the same as you |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #109 |
110. But now you want to punish families who are struggling to improve |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #109 |
142. "after the children had started full time school" |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #142 |
143. Until then... we lived on hamburger helper and we didn't have a car |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #143 |
173. Well, first off, we should be encouraging thrift, because the median wage will never rise |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #90 |
107. By the way, a working mom who sinks hundreds of dollars a month |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #107 |
155. That's the case for me as well. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #90 |
118. Bite me. |
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Amaya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #90 |
123. HUH? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #90 |
137. Go figure. Being a stay at home dad, I'm always the last to know about fashon trends. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Oh, I don't know...folks trying to raise a family on, say, 45K... |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #43 |
98. Fair enough... let's say between $50k and $160k |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #37 |
54. Oh please. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #54 |
77. Exactly. People making over $75,000 are doing well enough that they |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #77 |
93. I'm telling you, that's just not the case |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #93 |
102. People making less than $75,000 don't have it easier-- |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #102 |
112. But study after study shows that the middle has the highest burden |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #93 |
139. If you are suffering on $75k+ per year |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #93 |
147. oh cry me a river |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #93 |
175. Blame center-right urban Dems, they use professional-class liberals as a "machine" to milk for money |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #93 |
181. Then perhaps you should ask for a pay cut |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #77 |
174. None of which are made in the US -- another reason tax rebates don't work |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #37 |
78. Your progressive values never cease to amaze me. |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #78 |
94. Look. The party is not ONLY for the poor |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #94 |
99. You have no idea how privileged and clueless you sound right now, do you? |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #99 |
106. Try to be civil |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #106 |
113. Trust me, that's the civil version of what I meant to say. |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #113 |
130. So you're saying that if a household makes more than |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #130 |
132. Dude, are you trying to muster your own straw army or what? |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. Well, what were you trying to say if not that? |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. You're saying that the upper middle class needs help the most. |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #134 |
136. The middle classes do have a disproportionate tax burden |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #136 |
141. Because they need it less. |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #141 |
146. But the middle classes pay proportionately more than the rich |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #146 |
150. A one time payout isn't going to correct that. |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #150 |
152. $1200 bucks will buy me a flat screen tv. I want a flat screen tv (nt) |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #152 |
153. Would you like a pony with that? |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #153 |
156. Only if it comes in high def (nt) |
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Hatchling (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #152 |
167. That would buy me a year of medication I can't now afford. |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #146 |
162. Question |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #162 |
178. I mean |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #178 |
188. True about the rich... |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #94 |
140. A rising tide raises all boats |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #140 |
160. There's a difference between lifting folks from the bootstraps and lifting folks from the neck. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #37 |
81. BullSHIT! |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #37 |
91. You don't need tax relief. Neither do I. |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #91 |
96. Since when am I going to put it in the bank? |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #37 |
172. I knew it -- You're one of those folks who believe "WE are the middle class -- we who make $250k" |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
180. Do you mean households making... |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 08:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
48. Yet more compassion from you. |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
56. you need 'tax relief?' i need MONEY. nt |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #56 |
119. Same here. The heating oil is about to run out and we can't afford a hundred gallons. Guess it's |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
5. If we give money to bottom feeders... |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
55. This is the best line here. It cracked my SO up. nt |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
7. I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE REPUBLICANS |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
8. One thing is sure |
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Blaze Diem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. I'd take mine straight to the casino..maybe I can double it. |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. No you need to take it straight to Wal-Mart.. |
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Blaze Diem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. yep..casino or Walmart?? Well I do love cheap toxic crap..hmmm |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
11. Rebate |
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Blaze Diem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. technically,yes. But by the time the Congressional hagglers are |
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semillama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. We have a winner! |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Thanks! |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Notice how they call it "bonuses".. |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
27. Only if they calling it an "Income Tax Rebate". |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #11 |
92. How about, uh, stimulus. That is, after all, what the economists are asking for. n/t |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
16. If you make $40K a yr, then nothing for you...that's the poor! |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
45. I'd rather be killed swiftly; not knowing about it. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
53. Gee, I make less than that and pay plenty of taxes |
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brazos121200 (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
20. I can't believe the Democrats in Congress are actually |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
22. let`s start a class war in the usa! |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. It doesn't matter because a good chunk of us will join the ranks of the poor.. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Where've you been? There already is one! |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. ya, i try to be optimistic but it does`t work sometimes. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. That's awesome! |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. The last time they... |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. nice of them ... |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #31 |
47. Yeah, helped tremendously... |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
34. the poor do pay taxes |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. The taxes you mention are trivial in comparison with income taxes |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. do you not think that property taxes hit the poor hard too? |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #42 |
72. How many poor people OWN homes to pay tax on? |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #72 |
87. Renters pay property tax too, it's just added into their rent. |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #72 |
125. I do |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #72 |
163. Well, by your standards, we're poor, and we own a home. nt |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #38 |
58. Not trivial... |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #58 |
145. you've summed up my life there |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #145 |
168. So tragic... |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #168 |
177. it did not seem tragic at the time |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #177 |
186. They are good questions you ask... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #38 |
104. The hell they are. |
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Gemini Cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #38 |
111. Interesting. So move. It's easy. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #111 |
114. Or better yet, be poor. It's easy. |
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Gemini Cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #114 |
120. Yes, they should come on down and live amoungst us "lucky duckies." |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #120 |
127. yep |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #111 |
126. best to ignore ... |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
165. Where "we" live? As opposed to where the bottom-feeders live? |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #34 |
73. sales tax, property tax are paid to the state/county, not the feds |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #73 |
116. The whole point is "stimulus" not "rebate" |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
35. Pardon me but I just got out from my cave... |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
39. How about tax relief for divorced fathers? |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Don't you know? We men are worthless scum. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Only the fathers that don't pay are worthless scums. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. As soon as they start making them and pay more than 50% of expenses! |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #50 |
65. More than 50%? Ha! |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Because |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Perhaps the non-custodial parent should get a better job |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #66 |
74. Must have been nice to grow up you |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #74 |
117. And your kids are seeing that there are two parents |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #117 |
121. Safety |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #121 |
129. the needs of the many vs the needs of the few |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #129 |
138. I hate that quote.. |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #138 |
151. ok, that comes out to |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #151 |
159. Lets see |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #159 |
164. Again, the anger is pointed at the ex |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #164 |
169. Youre not getting my point.. |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #169 |
176. First of all, if he could prove she was abusing him |
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Gemini Cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #65 |
124. Damn. |
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mrigirl (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #39 |
57. Dude, you have the right idea! My husband has been getting screwed |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #57 |
68. I call bullshit on that |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #68 |
76. The support she receives is |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #76 |
82. I don't know about the US but in Canada, child support is tax free |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #76 |
85. Then that is alimony and not child support |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #85 |
95. Thank you so much |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #95 |
100. Alimony should be eliminated |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #100 |
122. The bitterness will pass with time |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #122 |
131. I finished paying alimony in 2003 |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #131 |
154. Well, I'll have a pity party for you when I get around to it |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #154 |
157. A party! Awesome! Will there be pie? (nt) |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #157 |
158. Since you want some |
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mrigirl (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #122 |
184. I am quite mature about this. I don't like her taking advantage of my husband's generosity! |
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mrigirl (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 08:53 AM Response to Reply #76 |
185. Exactly! Thank you. |
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mrigirl (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 08:48 AM Response to Reply #68 |
183. Sydnie- It's not bullshit. She is remarried and has a husband that |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
40. hey assholes: let us deduct consumer interest again |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
52. It'll be a busy day at the collection agencies when they mail those out. |
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Justice Is Comin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
59. That's it Baucus |
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El Pinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:38 AM Response to Original message |
61. Why help the people who are really suffering? |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:08 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Good point but |
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El Pinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:42 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Of course there are people who depend on the idle rich for their livelihoods... |
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radfringe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
63. rebate scam? the simple definition: |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #63 |
79. crap with a pretty bow that georgie's energy sec said might cause oil prices to rise and hurt |
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zorahopkins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
67. Cruel, Heartless Bastards! |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
69. Anyone hear what georgie's energy sec had to say about this scam? |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #69 |
149. That's a good one... |
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wishlist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
84. Even Ben Bernanke said increased food stamps would be a quick help |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #84 |
189. Who appointed him? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
88. Congress needs to get its head on straight. Is it a tax cut or stimulus? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #88 |
105. Boehner made them drop the extension of unemployment benefits |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #88 |
144. Congress get its head on straight? |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
108. $400 for the Dem nominee $400 for DSCC and $400 for the DCCC |
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RepublicanElephant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
148. live press conference on bloomberg tv ON NOW |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
161. LATEST: $300 for individuals not paying taxes |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
166. This Whole Thing Is a Farce! |
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FlyingSquirrel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
182. Poor peoples don't vote. They make sure of that. |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
190. If we can pay Halliburton and KBR hundreds of millions for work they haven't done and then give them |
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