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chemp Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:07 AM
Original message
Say goodbye Hershey
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 08:09 AM by chemp
On edit: Neglected to mention that this was sent to my e-mail.

A sad story for those of us who remember growing up
with Hershey bars, and just as sad for the generations of today. What
will be outsourced next? Pennsylvania is a big state, but it amazes me
in this day, how some news doesn't make it over the
mountain to the front page of our papers or the top of our news hours in
Western Pennsylvania .
Milton Hershey, this year, will be joining H. J.
Heinz in rolling over in his grave. Hershey Chocolate is moving to
MEXICO ...whoopee! They're even closing down Hershey Canada . Don't buy
any more Hershey Bars. Reese's Peanut Butter Cups are my favorite and
they are made by Hershey. But, I will not purchase another one!
M.S. Hershey had a dream...I will buy my OWN
Sugar, Milk, Cocoa beans, (all natural mind you!) and make candy...(no
tariffs etc..) EVEN during the depression...HE and the Company made
money...NOW some Corporate big wigs are ruining the name...AND the
product M.S. created...
Please pass it on...What a bunch of
college educated "idiots".
Thank you M.S. Hershey for all the things I have
and all you have done for me and my family..."I" do appreciate it...as
for "Dick" Lenny and Company. good luck you greedy, money loving
SUCKERS...you are ruining the name, the company, and MANY lives in
central Pennsylvania ....
Read on...Enough is Enough!
So Hershey executives are closing plants
in the US , laying off over a thousand people, and destroying Mr.
Hershey's dream, all to cut labor, material costs and AVOID PAYING ANY
US TAXES!
The company will save about $170 million a year,
all on the backs of the American people. The top executives will still
make their mega bucks and the laid off workers will have to find other
jobs, some probably at minimum wage due to their age. All this to take
their jobs to India , China and Mexico , So WHAT part of the "GREAT"
American Chocolate Bar is left?...NOTHING! These countries are no doubt
laughing at the Americans, who they don't like anyway. How long are the
American people going to sit around and let big corporations do this to
us? We must all band together and let our Politicians in Washington know
we have had it with NAFTA, CAFTA and "SHAFTA" and we won't take it any
longer!
Please, do not buy any Hershey product! If the
company wants to take the work to these countries, then let those
countries buy the product. We don't need it!
BOYCOTT HERSHEY!!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:10 AM
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1. its true... how sad. And I really liked their single origin chocolates.
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/h/hershey.htm

Hershey's Chocolate Is Moving Some Operations from the U.S. to Mexico-Truth!


Summary of the eRumor:
The eRumor laments that the American Hershey company that makes Hershey chocolate products is moving to Mexico.

The Truth:
There is a significant move by Hershey from the United States to Mexico in what the company calls a "global supply-chain transformation." Not all the operations are making the move but according to a June, 2007 article in the Los Angeles Times about 3,000 of the company's 13,000 employees will be cut.

About 900 workers are to lose their jobs in the company's home town of Hershey, Pennsylvania and the Hershey plant in Oakdale, California, is closing down. Operations there are being moved to Monterrey, Mexico.

The times quotes Hershey CEO Richard Lenny as saying that labor costs in Mexico are 10 percent less than in the U.S. and that by 2010 the changes will save shareholders $190 million.


How sad. What chocolate is still made here?

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chemp Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:21 AM
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5. Where is there a Nestles plant?
Or Mars.
I would hate to rule out snickers, pb Cups, Mounds, etc.
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chemp Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:23 AM
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7. Nestles is in Switzerland, with plants in the US
-Google
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:26 AM
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9. I don't know - I haven't purchased any Nestle products in years... since the old boycott
I guess I got into the habit of avoiding their products and never went back. They were pushing their baby formula on third world nations and babies were dying of diahrea.

Tipper Gore actually got me into it. I remember an article that her daughter's would buy Nestle bars when they were pissed at their mom as teens.
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jhain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:36 AM
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32. same here
and the boycott is still VERY active!:
http://www.babymilkaction.org/pages/boycott.html

Nestlé Children's Book Prize winner refuses Nestlé money - Sean Taylor rejects cheque
http://www.babymilkaction.org/press/press12dec07.html

Press release 12 December 2007

Media coverage: The Bookseller - The Book Standard

Children's author, Sean Taylor, was announced today as the Gold Medal Winner of the Nestlé Children's Book Prize, under-5 category, for his book When a Monster is Born illustrated by Nick Sharratt (Orchard Books). In an open letter Mr. Taylor indicated that he would not accept the prize money for the award which is sponsored by Nestlé. He commented:

Being on the short list for the 2007 Nestlé Children’s book Prize is a significant honour for me, especially since so many children around the country have been involved in choosing the winning books. And I am delighted to accept the award offered to me.

However, because of questions surrounding Nestlé’s marketing of breast-milk substitutes, I do not feel able to accept the prize money.

This has not been a decision I have taken lightly. It has involved conversations with Baby Milk Action (a campaign group against Nestlé), Nestlé themselves, and an authoritative third party with experience in the field (who wishes to remain nameless).

Baby Milk Action is concerned by Nestlé’s record of aggressive marketing of baby foods, which contributes to the unnecessary death and suffering of infants around the world. Companies should be abiding by international marketing standards adopted by the World Health Assembly, but Nestlé, the market leader, continues to produce systematic and widespreadviolations of the marketing requirements. These are defended at the most senior levels of the company.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:37 AM
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85. Yep Nestle and the baby formula sales plan to nations without safe water
How many infants died because of that business venture? Sell mothers in third world nations without safe water on the idea that your formula is wonderful and gives them more freedom because they don't have to nurse infants.

Who cares that the mothers end up putting contaminated water into newborns? Sales are great! Babies, schmabies, Nestles didn't care about babies relying on formula mixed with unsafe water....

Nestles? x( I will NEVER get over my mad on their tactics for profits.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #5
57. hershey has always had better chocolate than nestle's in my opinion.
i'm going to miss it.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:38 AM
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91. Nestles shut down their plant here in Fulton, New York and moved production to Brazil.
The plant is the one where chocolate chips were first made and ran all through the Depression.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:21 AM
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6. Okay, as far as I can Google, Whitman's is still made here. Any others?
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 08:23 AM by FLDem5
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:30 AM
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10. Lindt & Sprungli (Swiss) chocolates are actually made in Stratham, New Hampshire.
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 08:35 AM by Tesha
Lindt & Sprungli (Swiss) chocolates for U.S. Consumption
are actually made in Stratham, New Hampshire.

http://www.lindt.com/2865/2870/3156/3171/3173.asp



Visit the factory store for great "seconds", or see their
two SMART cars re-designed as golden Easter bunnies,
complete with big golden ears.

They also own Ghirardelli of San Leandro, California.

Tesha
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:34 AM
Response to Reply #6
12. Lake Champlain Chocolates of Burlington, VT
Lake Champlain Chocolates of Burlington, VT

http://www.lakechamplainchocolates.com/





Tesha
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:43 AM
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15. thanks so much - I forgot about Ghirardelli Chocolate!
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:38 AM
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33. The very, very, very best: Endangered Species Chocolate Bars -- Pandas!
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 09:39 AM by IndyOp
http://www.chocolatebar.com/



10% of net profits donated to help support species, habitat, and humanity!

In 2005 Endangered Species Chocolate moved from its original 5,000 square-foot facility in Oregon to Indiana. The newly renovated, fully automated Indianapolis facility provides 43,000 square feet and is expandable to 77,000 square feet. In keeping with the company’s commiment to protect species and our environment, the building is LEED® registered by the U.S. Green Building Rating System.
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:39 AM
Response to Reply #33
39. Thanks for the link.
What a great gift idea!

:hi:

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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:10 PM
Response to Reply #33
65. Thanks, I just ordered a gift for a family member!
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:27 AM
Response to Reply #6
37. Ghirardelli's is still made here - in Calif., I believe.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 05:38 PM
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52. Yes, but they were bought-out by Lindt, as I mentioned above. (NT)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:57 PM
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62. Sees, but aren't they pugs?
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:11 AM
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72. Looks like Mars candy is still made here
So I can still enjoy my Twix, Milky Ways, Snickers, Skittles, Starbursts, and M&Ms. That's the critical stuff.

Mmmmm.... Twix. :-)






Oh, no! Milk Duds are Hershey! And so are Rolos! I use Rolos to make a great snack!


Oh, shitballs.

:-(
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dropkickpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:50 AM
Response to Reply #1
18. Sarris Candies
Pittsburgh local, and their chocolate is YUMMY!!
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:02 AM
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26. Scharffen Berger
Consistently rated very high among chocolate connoisseurs.

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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:14 AM
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87. owned by Hershey's now. and Hershey's isn't that bad of a chocolate company, btw.
it's been habitually progressive in its history. but right now it's fighting for its life against truly evil companies like Nestle and Mars (and i can't help it, i just love Snickers, too. :( ). chocolatiers are often in dire straits with the level of competition out there, and the Carlyle group has set their sites on killing Hershey by any means possible (currently by stacking the board with as many of their cronies as they can). they are desperate to either wrestle control of Hershey's from the orphans and city or kill it outright. it's taking the rest of the community to fight back to prevent this chop shop to occur.

dont support destroying Hershey's, they're one of the few good chocolatiers left for mainstrean chocolate. Ghiradelli, See's, Gitard, Lindt, etc. are made here too, but they are artisian chocolates for the most part and cannot hope to replace the loss of a major mass production chocolatier. it's either this or truly evil competition folks! don't sell out to the latest outrage, this is a very complex business world and Hershey's has been on our sides more often than Mars or Nestle ever will.

really DU, unless you plan to go artisian only, which is painfully elitist considering everyone deserves the love of chocolate, we really shouldn't boycott Hershey's. there's far more evil companies out there to take a stand against; this move to mexico is an act of survival in cutthroat mass production chocolates. let the 'unwashed masses' have their chocolate, too!

:(
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:18 AM
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2. Are they also going to close Hershey Park?
Since they no longer make the chocolate there, why bother having their chocolate-themed amusement park there?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:20 AM
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3. one more product i will boycot...
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:20 AM
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4. I'd love to see them lose money .
If US ppl won't buy from them, they would lose their shirt. That is the only way they will listen, they care about nothing else. I have chocolate addiction, and I'd join in on this. I'm sick to death that these companies only benefit from leaving here instead of staying. They need incentive to stay and they aren't getting it from the government. We are the only ones left to give it to them.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:26 AM
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8. I've boycotted Hershey's for years, but for another reason.
Their chocolate is absolute shit.

Now, I have another reason not to partake of their wares.
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momster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:56 AM
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43. So True
It tastes like chocolate scented wax mixed with sawdust. Blech.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:32 AM
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11. Isn't this exactly what Bill Clinton wanted?
Now all those candy makers can become Pennsylvanian nurses, teachers, and computer techs.

Outsourcing wouldn't be a problem if Americans bought American made items. Free trade destroyed our collective for a cheap new world order.

The sad part is, the price of the candy bar will go up. The sheeple will never know they are eating outsourced, overpriced candy.

sad day
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:37 AM
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13. now we'll have to rename the Hershey Highway
:cry:


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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:46 AM
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17. This one will last me all day!
People will look over and ask, "What's so funny?"

--IMM
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #13
58. Ghirardelli Circle has a nice ring to it...
the ladies might even go for it.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 06:43 AM
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73. nice!
:thumbsup:
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:40 AM
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14. Semisweet news.
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El Pinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:46 AM
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16. That sucks. I would rec this if I had enough posts.
But what are you complaining about, this is the new economy! We don't need jobs in the US, people who are laid off can just borrow against their home equity, and then sell their home when the price doubles and after they flip a few more homes, they can retire to Costa Rica! "Jobs" and "work" are so "old paradigm". :sarcasm:
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:14 AM
Response to Reply #16
29. I rec'd it for you.
Yeah this is bad news...
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:51 AM
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19. Americans consistently vote for free markets
This is what a free market looks like.

:shrug:

Perhaps people should look into other forms of social organization?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 05:42 PM
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53. If it was free then everyone would prosper.
Weird.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 05:46 PM
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54. If it was free then everyone would prosper.
Weird.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:58 AM
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71. "free" is just another word for nothing left to lose. We have no freedom to set tariffs
You and I (non-corporations) have no freedom to hire people and make money overseas, but the big trans-national corporations somehow have this "freedom" and it is supposedly good for everyone to have this "freedom" even if it is actually a law, not a freedom. A statute enforced by international courts defining what is a multinational corporation and how a guy living in New York can make billions in another country without setting foot there, through the power of a legal contract backed by the carrot of US military and sanctions.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:23 AM
Response to Reply #19
88. exactly. Mars and Nestle have been taking advantage of this far longer.
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 11:24 AM by NuttyFluffers
Hershey's has to cave to this "free market" or they'll implode. there is no reciprocity in this "free market" we promote, no restrictions to make sure people play fairly. even once excellent, socially responsible, giving companies have to 'turn to the dark side' just to survive. this is not good, and wholly not an isolated problem. this is a systemic evil turning evil companies into major market winners and turning good companies the same way out of sheer desperation for survival.

"free market" is an oxymoron. trade is never free, otherwise it'll be called a gift. and that's what this is, a gift to corporate raiders and greedy assholes to stripmine all that's good and decent in the marketplace to line their pockets with loot. raid and pillage, and you're either a raider or a victim. this 'deregulated' shit has got to stop!
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:56 AM
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20. I toured the Hershey factory when I was a kid over 30 years ago... A dream.
It was Willie Wonka and magic for me as a kid. A CHOCOLATE FACTORY. Wow.

Viva Mexico!
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pingzing58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:59 AM
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21. I suggest that the unemployed Hershey workers should move as illegal aliens to India, China, Mexico.
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:00 AM
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22. Sugar costs 3x more in the US than Mexico
(No Mexico cannot export sugar under NAFTA)

The Cuban vote in Flora keeps sugar quotas fixed. The corn vote keeps HFCS ( a health disaster) highly subsidized, sweeting everything and decimating Mexican corn farmers.

This isn't free trade / low wages people. It's corporate extortion.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:32 AM
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89. thank you. that's another part of the problem.
Hershey's had an advantage with their dairy suppliers, but it's dwindling because they're getting screwed by such subsidies, restrictions, and kickbacks elsewhere in the political world. business is complex, and just because a company takes a certain action doesn't mean they're like the cowboy in the dark hat and curly mustache cackling away. sometimes our stupid politics makes it too difficult for some other businesses to resist trends, like outsourcing. some gleefully abandon everything for short-term profits; and then there's companies like Hershey's who historically worked with long-term profits and regional investments. we can't kick the latter in the teeth and blame them for running out on us like the former.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:01 AM
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23. This is the antithesis of Milton Hershey!
Milton was all about building community via commerce.

-Hoot
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:01 AM
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24. ATTN: This is a chain letter that isn't 100% true
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/hersheys.asp

They are not closing down and outsourcing, but they are building another plant in Mexico while cutting back on the workforce here. Still sucks that jobs are being lost, but to say that "Hersheys is closing shop in Pennsylvania and outsourcing to Mexico" is a bit disingenuous.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:02 AM
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25. But, I'm already boycotting Nestle!
No chocolate fer Kazzz... :cry:
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:03 AM
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27. According to snopes.com, this is only partially true.
www.snopes.com/politics/business/hersheys.asp
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Steerpike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:07 AM
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28. when I get chocolates I usually go pick up a box of See's
It's a habit I picked up from my mother back in the 60's.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:19 AM
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30. Fucking maggots.
I can see these assholes all sitting around in the great big board room. They know that people like us will boycott them, but they've already got that figured in to the equation. To them it doesn't matter at all. They will still turn profits on top of the giant tax break they will get. We have become a nation of cowards for allowing this to happen. For not dragging these fuckers from their trophy homes in the middle of the night to answer to an angry mob why they feel justified in fucking this country for a dime. I've had enough. In the end we'll sit here and continue to take this shit until we are dead, or we'll take to the streets and go after the people who make these decisions behind closed board-room doors. I see a lead-pipe carrying mob-rule revolution on the horizon. But you cowards won't be a part of it. After all, American Idol is on...
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #30
34. I don't care for American Idol...
but neither do I see those mobs. :shrug:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:44 AM
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41. I guess you don't bother to read the posts in a thread before posting
Since its been shown that the OP is inaccurate.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:24 AM
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31. Yay!!!!! An Overhyped Overdramatic Chain Mail!
How I LOVE them! LOL
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:55 PM
Response to Reply #31
48. Or, "Why White Americans believe Obama is a Scary Mooooozelum"!
sheesh.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:08 AM
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35. I have a serious question about this....(((raises hand)))
Ok, if they're shipping the Hershey plant to Mexico, what happens to that
big Hershey amusement park???

Are they sending that to Mexico too?

Wouldn't it be just a bit odd, to have the plant stripped from our country--and
a big amusement park, that pays tribute to everything Hershey--still standing on
American soil???

It would be beyond ironic...and borderline macabre.

"Let's all ride the roller coaster as we contemplate what a
symbol of American destruction the company is now! Weeeeeee!"

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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:45 AM
Response to Reply #35
42. A bit of gentle advice: read the posts in a thread before posting
As you will see, the OP is, in considerable part, urban myth.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:54 PM
Response to Reply #42
69. Thanks for the "gentle advice"...
...but when I posted what I wrote, the fact that this is an urban
myth was not posted. It was nowhere in sight.

So there ya go!
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:15 AM
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36. Since they use Three Mile Island contaminated milk herd to make it
this could be a good thing.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:35 AM
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38. URBAN LEGEND ALERT !!!!! Check Snopes first, folks.
This story is only partly true, many of the US jobs are remaining.

Read the details of what is really going on, and a copy of this exact email first.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/hersheys.asp
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:54 PM
Response to Reply #38
46. Really. I mean, "this is from an email I received" ought to set the BS meter off
Seriously, what was the OP thinking, posting this crap without checking it out first?
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:05 AM
Response to Reply #46
70. I reply to almost every email from my father-in-law with "snopes is your friend, Dad."
He never learns either.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 07:51 AM
Response to Reply #70
76. I assume he knows who Mr. Snopes is.
Yeah, I've known people like that. They actually read and believe unattributed crap that's been forwarded to their mailboxes.

While some lefties go this viral route, in my experience it's about 10:1 right-wing drivel being circulated.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 06:48 AM
Response to Reply #38
74. See above. I've already posted this, but no one seemed to read it.
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zorahopkins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:39 AM
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40. Rat Feces, Roach Legs
I don't eat ANY chocolate candy, and especially not Hershey's.

I understand from someone who works for Hershey's that the candy bars contain rat feces and cockroach legs.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #40
45. All food made by big business has these components
there are even tolerable amounts in the USDA regulations.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:59 PM
Response to Reply #40
64. so does peanut butter, and almost every product you eat...
Do you think food is grown in hermetically sealed vaults?
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:50 PM
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44. I just called Hershey
They are opening a plant(s) in Mexico, but are not closing any U.S. production. 10% of their production will occur in Mexico. Neither Hershey Park or the plant in Hershey PA are slated to close. 90% of their current production will remain in the U.S..

However, we need to keep the pressure on this and every other U.S. corporation and let them know we will stop buying their products if they continue to abandon U.S..
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RavensChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #44
49. Whew!
After reading the entire thread I was getting worried. Well, as long as the amusement park does'nt close. Thanks.

I very seldom buy their candy anyway so at least I'm doing my bit part to get the message to them.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:07 PM
Response to Reply #44
50. (Making A Cross With Fingers) No!!!!!! Not Facts!!!!!! Keep 'Em Away! Keep 'Em Away!! ARGHHH!!!
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:32 AM
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80. "Hershey Outsources Jobs to Mexico"...
After outsourcing jobs to Mexico, the Great American Candy Company, Hershey, may have to change it's name to the Semi-good Mexican Candy Company.

Several of the Hershey's candy making facilities in the United States and Canada are slated to be shut down, with the jobs being outsourced to contractors in Mexico, and a new Hershey's manufacturing facility located in Mexico.

The Hershey Company is this nation's leading candy maker. It is the candy we grew up with and love, the name Hershey has long been synonymous with chocolate itself in America. Jolly Ranchers and Twizzlers are also made by the Hershey Company.

The work force in the candy manufacturing facilities in Lancaster County and Harrisburg, PA. will be reduced significantly. The plants in Reading, PA., Connecticut and California will be shut down completely, as will two in Canada.

....


http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/528711/hershey_outsources_jobs_to_mexico.html

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DaDooRonRon Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:03 AM
Response to Reply #44
81. And you believed them?
Just a guess here, but I'm thinking that response you got may have been just a wee bit scripted?

The only reason 10% is moving is to make sure the profits will be as high as expected, so the remaining 90% can move.

Oh, and I'm sure that "we" keeping the "pressure" on "them" will really matter.

I mean, Pelosi listens to "us" all the time, right?
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:38 PM
Response to Reply #81
93. Fine. Keep us posted and I'll quit buying their products along with everyone else.
I grew up in PA, close enough to Hershey to feel I have a stake in this.

When I find out they have, in fact, closed plants and laid off workers, provided early retirement or downsized, I'm done with them.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:54 PM
Response to Original message
47. Please don't copy/paste unverified crap you've been emailed
and for fuck's sake, people, don't recommend crap posts like this.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:09 PM
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51. geezus, how much can it $ to make candy?!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 05:48 PM
Response to Reply #51
55. It's mostly automated,,, either
electricity costs too much in America, or they expect the Mexican workers to not smuggle out illegal choco bars to their families compared to the fat honky currently employed. :crazy:
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 05:50 PM
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56. I'll never eat another fucking one.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:17 PM
Response to Reply #56
59. An ulterior motive, perhaps?
:tinfoilhat:

:shrug:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:28 AM
Response to Reply #56
84. what manufacturer's chocolate will you buy instead?
Nestle? Made in Switzerland
Cadbury? Made in UK, except for most Cadbury sold in the US, which is made in the US by....Hershey.
Godiva? Made in US, but they also make half of their product in Belgium.
Mars? Made in the US, but also has international operations. Has been roundly criticized by PETA for their food testing practices.

Its a global economy. Shifting 10 percent of one's manufacturing to an overseas plant is hardly unusual in this day and age. Boycotting a company over such an action is more likely to lead to more job losses in the US than it is the creation of new jobs.

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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:38 PM
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60. This is old news -- they already moved their facilities.
Sad but true. It was a HUGE ordeal when it happened, and the board has all since been replaced by the MS Hershey Foundation - but not in a good way -- it was because profits aren't large ENOUGH.

Oh, and greets from the heart of it in central PA. :hi:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #60
63. Yeah and I haven't had any since.
:cry: I loved that stuff.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:26 PM
Response to Reply #63
66. M&Ms are your freind.
:D
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #66
67. Chocolate is my friend.
:P
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:38 AM
Response to Reply #66
92. Mars is most definitely not your friend.
that's a mean company. they also are painfully tied historically to right-wing causes, at least the owners are. chocolate is an interesting murky world, and most of the big actors are downright mean. remember, these are histories intersecting with banana republics and sugar wars. Hershey's has had a far cleaner record than most. there's more than just taste in the decadence of chocolate....
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:55 PM
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61. I live near the Canadian plant that's closing
There are SO many people out of work in the small town of Smiths Falls, Ontario.

The Hershey plant was the main employer and the town's biggest tourist attraction.

Already, Walmart has swooped in, ready to cash in on people desperate to save a buck or two.

I've already stopped buying Hershey's products and not just because of the layoffs of my friends and neighbors. Hershey was in Canada for two reasons - cheap sugar and the quality of our local milk products.

Now that they're in Mexico, god knows where they're getting their ingredients.
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loser_user Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:38 PM
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68. Wilbur's Chocolate!
Wilbur's Chocolate is located down the road in Litiz PA and is a heck of a lot better in my opinion!
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 07:03 AM
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75. yes no more hersheys chocolate for me
For instance I had worn levi's jeans all my life until they closed down their last us manufacturing plant a few years ago. when I looked in the closet at the ones I already had and that I was taking for granted they were made here in the us of a, hell no not to be. Oh well I save money now by not buying levi's brand anymore. Hell I'm not much of a chocolate hound anyway
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:10 AM
Response to Reply #75
82. and not eating hershey's chocolate will help how?
90 percent of hershey's manufacturing is still located in the US. Its virtually certain that if you purchase a Hershey's bar, it was made in the US. Yet you're going to stop purchasing hershey's chocolate, a strategy that if followed by enough other people will result in Hershey's closing additional US plants, putting additional US workers out of jobs, etc.

Tell me again how this "boycott" is supposed to make things better?
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:17 AM
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83. pardon me I misunderstood
my bad ;-)
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Snarkturian Clone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:17 AM
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77. It hurt Philly commerce too...
all the beans come in through our port... we have a whole pier dedicated to it. Lots of jobs to be lost.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:46 AM
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78. I avoid produce from Mexico and I definitely will not eat chocolate
produced there. Shame on the greedy Hershey Company.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:17 AM
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79. Your subject line sure gets a visceral reaction from me.
Saying goodbye to chocolate...:cry:
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:41 AM
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86. This is terrible. We need to keep it kicked
:kick:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:36 AM
Response to Reply #86
90. same gentle reminder I gave a previous poster: read the thread before you post
Its not terrible, since its largely untrue.
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