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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:09 PM Original message |
*************3RD OFFICIAL THREAD SENATE FISA LAW**** |
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davidwparker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. I called Jim Webb's office. Warner's office never answered the phone. n/t |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Excellent! |
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davidwparker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. The staff memember took down my message about not giving immunity to |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #14 |
49. good going n/t |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
2. my internet connection just stopped working! they're coming after me!!!! |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Nice knowing ya. Send postcards from GITMO. nt |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. It's back. Maybe they just went after C-span's site for a bit n/t |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
31. Sure. My C-Span feed was just fine. Please don't call me again. nt |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
65. me too for about 1/2 hour- slow as molasses-wouldnt move-checked for |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
3. Kennedy rocked! DF is actually saying stuff I agree with. Who'da thunk? Nt |
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MelissaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I missed it. :( |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. I didnt understand a thing Feinstein was getting at.whatd she say? |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I think it was an amend. so president can't assume |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
7. DF: have to have new legisl. to override FISA in future (I think) n/t |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
9. TOLL FREE # TO CONGRESS |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
10. Reid talking about Cheney on FISA yesterday, Bush today, timeline for decision n/t |
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trashcanistanista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Reid's trying to push it through. |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. so is Reid saying let us vote on these amendments... |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Thassa change.Feingold accused REid publicly of not working very hard for |
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MelissaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. He's not just being nice. He's piling it on. |
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old guy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #12 |
54. All the more reason to not pass it. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
17. I'm baffled at what Reid is whining about--why can't Dem Senators |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. do repubs threaten filibuster each time they want to vote on an amend? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:28 PM Original message |
They didn't even have cloture votes, though--that takes the place |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:29 PM Original message |
Harry told repugs to fillibuster- truth- again he's putting on show but |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
35. notice Harry doesnt hold "erant"dems voting with pugs in line. Why not? |
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MelissaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Is he a DLCer? n/t |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
53. good point n/t |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #53 |
101. yep, he most certainly is. very few of dems are not anymore, I used to admire Durbin |
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trashcanistanista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Reid is not making a point. |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Didn't he say earlier that he was going to FORCE the rethuglicans to filibuster... |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. I think it's the sunset provision someone mentioned last thread? n/t |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. I heard that--I don't know what he's doing. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
19. and a 3rd REC |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Harry putting on a show for us, but waiving the white flag-he surrenders - how unsurprising |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Reid is saying some really good stuff but honestly, is there ANYONE more boring? nt |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. not majority leader material n/t |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. the man needs some PASSION--Movement. anything. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #27 |
47. A heartbeat, bt |
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MelissaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. I agree wholeheartedly. He needs some fire in his belly. |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. dont be silly. He might win dem things he doesnt want to pass then.n/t |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
23. NEEDS one more REC |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. done n/t |
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trashcanistanista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:34 PM Original message |
Me to. |
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trashcanistanista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
28. Ah Ha! |
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trashcanistanista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. To prevent it being voting on today. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
34. Reid wants an extension--any extension |
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trashcanistanista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Rethugs want ammendments dropped |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. And...doesn't Harry ultimately set the agenda? Why can't he do what he thinks best? |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
38. take-home lesson - we need more dem senators n/t |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
40. oh oh-that Repug wants the imm bill passed TODAY |
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iris5426 (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
42. I just called both of my senators... |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
44. Mitchy wants to give the Pres another present!! |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
45. McConnell says we (c-span watchers) too stupid to understand this n/t |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. what mean. what did I miss? |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. him just being snide - I bet people watching are thoroughly.. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. he is cocky a lot--guess I just ignore it |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. Well he nailed me! I'm dazed. nt |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. yeah, but I blame it on them, not us! :) |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
48. Wish they'd quit using the word "homeland" |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. sounds like a fascist term to me - didn't the rest of our laws apply to this land not rest of world? |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Exactly |
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lyonn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #55 |
94. Each time someone uses Homeland I cringe |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #94 |
110. yeah , sounds like der fuehrers "fatherland" - and I dont think by mistake either nn/t |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
52. Mitch talks lots of 'PROTECTING THE HOMELAND"--NOTHING about following the Constitution |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
57. WTF? What just happened, with those 17 Repubs' names being read? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. no, it was a procedual delay--so they could have a pow-wow. |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. poor Akaka - people always asking where he is :) n/t |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. "Mr. A-KAH-KAHHHH..." |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Every time they say his name |
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trashcanistanista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. I think it was to vote to invoke cloture on the Rockerfella |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:43 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. Didn't that rethug want to just basically accept the Rockefeller and Bond |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
63. Maria Cantwell on stimulus while other procedural goings-on n/t |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
68. TOLL FREE # To Congress |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Think I'l;l call McConnell worst of the worst rethugs & ask why |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. Really, they don't care about our rights, they don't care about the Constitution - |
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trashcanistanista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Reid interrupted her. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. But they're going to pretend it took place at 12 noon. For some reason. |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. I didn't get that one either - even time is fudgable in Congress??? n/t |
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trashcanistanista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. Correct. |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. it sucks that economy is tanking now and they want to work on |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
71. Are we done for the day? Can somebody tell me what happened? Thanks! |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. Durbin doing good explanation of GOP tactics n/t |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Yeah, I'm just hearing that now. Good job - I like what he's saying. nt |
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trashcanistanista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. Not really, Durbin is now |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Yep, "it's their way or the highway" |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. Since when do Rethugs control the Senate? Are they the majority now? I swear to |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. I thought the Reps were the majority in the Senate, the Dems in the House - |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. It just feels that way |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #88 |
95. Well then where the fuck were all the other Dems today? If the Reps only have |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #95 |
105. 51 dems, 17 went with the rethugs-or were absent-we need to check names |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. actually i wish the right wing dems would get the hell out so we could replace them with |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #88 |
109. does that count Lieberman and Sanders as D? n/t |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. No--We're the majority in the Senate--that's why Reid is Majority Leader. He's the boss. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #89 |
98. Reid. Majority Leader. |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #84 |
91. Now you get it. One party. DLC IS republican - one party but a lot of acting |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #91 |
100. Sure, I'll bet Harry Reid's "hands are tied", and conveniently |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #71 |
80. I'll say again - takehome is we need more Dems in Senate |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #80 |
87. That's what Joe said once -- |
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cal04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
82. Durbin their way or the highway |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. dems already LOST the immunity vote bill. now I think they are trying for |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. Yeah, but like Durbin said, and even Reid made the point (painfully) that |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #90 |
102. Is letting the current extension expire a bad thing? |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. That's what I was wondering -- sounds good to me! |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. given BushCo don't follow laws regardless, who knows... n/t |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. The cloture vote will be on Monday at 4:30 - rethugs won.pls |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:05 PM Response to Reply #85 |
92. I think there were about 10 dems who voted to table it -- so I'm calling them, |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. use the 800 # goes to operator switchboard - then to who you ask for -wont see yr area code |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. Thanks -- didn't even think of it! |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #92 |
114. Here's the list - Mikulski and Inouye really surprised me |
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VP505 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #85 |
93. I wrongly |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
96. Its only January |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
103. Cheney exalting about FISA on C-Span now....more fear mongering |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #103 |
107. Yeah - I just turned it off when I heard him mention "chemical and biological |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #103 |
111. It's encouraging that Cheney's getting in the act |
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pdxmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
112. Let it expire. Obviously, the safety of the telecoms is more important |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
113. Help me I am lost. On Monday they will be voting for cloture for what? Is Dodd filibustering? nm |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. Voting for cloture on the intel version |
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