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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 02:23 PM Original message |
Ore. Court: Boy Has Say in Circumcision |
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spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
1. That poor kid |
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Raejeanowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
159. OMG, They're Battling Over His Foreskin? |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #159 |
206. There's a movie title in here somewhere: How about "The War over the Roses' Son's Foreskin"? |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
2. Thank God. |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
3. No person outside of infancy should get curcumcised... |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Absolutely |
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Gruenemann (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Right, babies don't feel pain. |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Ask any Jewish male if they remember the pain of being circumcised. |
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Gruenemann (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it didn't hurt. |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. How has your circumcision affected you later in life? |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
60. Two things. One, I was circumcised. Two, I was with my newborn son when they pricked his foot for a |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
92. i did a little reading up on this topic before my daughter was born |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:38 AM Response to Reply #92 |
113. Your story reminded me that when I was pregnant |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:01 AM Response to Reply #113 |
114. congratulations on your little girl! (check your p.m.) n/t |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:56 AM Response to Reply #114 |
119. A reply is heading your way! |
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Bright Eyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #92 |
134. They really don't use any anesthetic? |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 03:30 AM Response to Reply #134 |
166. not since last i inquired--which was awhile ago--but it was horrifying to me! |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #134 |
184. Yes they do. |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:45 AM Response to Reply #19 |
117. Sorry, but I've witnessed a couple of |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:48 AM Response to Reply #117 |
118. I carry an incredible amount of guilt having seen my sons |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #118 |
198. I married the Jewish son of conservative stock who were refugees from WWII. |
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Jack Sprat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
214. From experience, |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. I have NEVER understood that bogus argument |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Was it done by a doctor or by a religious professional? nt |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Doctor. nt |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I DON'T understand how the practice passed into the mainstream medical profession... |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #21 |
201. Oh, my dear. That is such a sad story! There was only one worse... |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #12 |
57. For a people who couldn't figure out how to safely cook pork, you're right. They aced THIS one. n/t |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #57 |
202. Love your answer! "Here's lookin' at you, kid!" |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
62. Wow, what an answer! |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #62 |
77. I AM NOT A FUCKING VICTIM! |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. I don't care how you justify it to yourself - circumcision is mutilation |
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ShaneGR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #81 |
127. That's a bit over the top, "victim?" |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:59 PM Response to Reply #127 |
131. Victim/not-victim - emotionally laden terminology |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #81 |
211. So are piercings and tattoos. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #77 |
204. I too am a victim of penile mutilation. I share your pain, glans-brother. |
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XboxWarrior (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
130. I don't recalll......getting whacked |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #130 |
132. Oh, yeah? How did you conduct this study, Your Studliness? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #130 |
137. Deleted message |
bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #137 |
150. what repulsive mysogyny.... you kiss your momma with that mouth? |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #150 |
172. He said chopped dicks are prettier for women, and I'm the sexist? |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #150 |
194. When I found out my Momma made cockrings with magnet jewelry... |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #194 |
203. Zounds! Maybe I'll take Grandpa's Viagra and replace them with magnets! |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 11:06 PM Response to Reply #130 |
227. These boys don't either, because they're dead. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #12 |
208. Woody Allen, Albert Brooks, Richard Lewis. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Please study the subject |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
28. Proof? |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
43. I'm sorry but that is ridiculous! I had the misfortune of seeing |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
61. With all due respect: cut off your own (whatever it is you have) |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #61 |
93. I agree. This stupid practice should be sent back to the Dark Ages. |
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Gruenemann (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Right, it's okay to mutilate innocent babies' genitals. |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. What's with the word "mutilate"? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Why is it better in infancy? |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Because out of the thousands of grown-up infants who have it done.... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Then maybe we should just do it to alzheimers patients. |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Look, the fact in the matter is, it SHOULDN'T be a mainstream medical procedure. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
89. Oh bs. Most docs who do this are pediatricians. At least those that do it to babies. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #89 |
149. My Jewish ob/gyn did my son's circumcision in the hospital, as we weren't Jewish. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #20 |
193. Babies remember NOTHING! |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. I got a problem with this "procedure" period! |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Too bad. 5000 years of persecution couldn't stop Jews from doing this... |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Not the same procedure for time immemorial |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Where the fuck are you getting your bullshit information? |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. A book. "The history of Circumcision" |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I've said it twice already and I'll say it again. |
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #45 |
124. I wonder if any studies of this have been done? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #124 |
135. Prediction: no difference would be found. |
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #135 |
163. No one is perfect, but I still wonder if there is a difference |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
44. You bet. Unless it is done for religious reasons it is multilation |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Well, I DON'T think it should be a standard medical practice. |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. For the reasons I gave. |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #44 |
74. Even if it's done for religious reasons, it is mutilation, and shouldn't be allowed except on adults |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #74 |
87. Well there I disagree. You'll never stop jewish people from |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
65. An "expert," you say! An expert in cutting off a child's foreskin. |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #15 |
94. Yes, I do. It's a stupid barbaric practice. |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. What do you think of this...? |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
185. Nobody should get circumcised. Especially not infants. Because infants don't have a say yet. |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
4. Has dad been cut? |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I think that's fairly obvious, since the guy converted... |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
6. New converts to any religion are tough on everybody around them |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
8. Is there some way to let the kid wait until he is a legal adult (18) before he decides? |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
13. Great! Just what we need: a circumcision thread, to kick off the weekend! |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
70. ... |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #70 |
213. UPDATE: Yep. But now we've run out of weekend and hope the court comes up with the best decision. |
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LeftinOH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
16. "Son, I've changed my religion..so now YOU have to get your peter snipped...." |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
25. Shit |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. You digress. |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. On make circumcision? |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. Female Circumcision isn't being performed in the US |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. You would think it wasn't |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. I'll ask again. Was your clitoris removed? |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #27 |
128. Hyphenate had the same reaction to this thread as I did |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #128 |
143. I reject the idea that inappropriate acts done to boys in this country... |
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carly denise pt deux (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. OMG that is terrible! |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Screw you--I'M not a victim! |
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carly denise pt deux (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I was posting in ref to the female mutilitation tactics, not your precious circumsicion |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Sorry...I overreacted... |
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carly denise pt deux (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. that's o.k.... |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #35 |
59. We must stop the Joos!! |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. Were you buchered when an infant? I was. |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #36 |
51. You can call it whatever you like |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 01:51 AM Response to Reply #51 |
99. Disagree. It is a disgrace that "parents decision" prevails. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:02 AM Response to Reply #51 |
101. Was your clitoris removed? Third time from a butchered "whiner" |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
71. There is scientific evidence that circumcision MAY prevent the spread of HIV |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #71 |
78. It *may* help prevent the spread of HIV |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. I realize that. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 07:42 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Point taken |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:07 AM Response to Reply #71 |
102. As with all thing subject to time, This study is being questioned. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #102 |
138. Gasp!~ |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #102 |
140. Many other things can impact research. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #71 |
129. The kind of science that confirms religious prejudice gives comfort to all, doesn't it? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #25 |
63. Please don't succumb to divide and conquer. |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. You are totally correct |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
64. ritual mutilation of anyone is wrong. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #25 |
144. Many of us can multi-task. I think a 12 yr old's opinion has weight here |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #25 |
145. dupe, DU bug in the works. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
34. Let the boy decide when he is an adult |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #34 |
54. He's got one year to go... |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
49. That's an astonishing decision by the state Supreme court |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 05:14 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. The only trouble is that there were allegations of coercion by the custodial parent |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. We have ways of asking the kid |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
56. Circumcision is always a "sensitive" topic around here. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #56 |
69. Ah, the "don't ask, don't tell" policy? Please. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:16 AM Response to Reply #56 |
104. Eh' sorry. No. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #104 |
133. You're being too polite... babies don't have faiths yet! |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
58. 12 is plenty old enough to decide about that particular procedure. |
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Tektonik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
66. I'm glad they're going to have the common sense to ask the kid if he wants to be mutilated or not |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
67. Oh boy. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:17 AM Response to Reply #67 |
105. 20 pages of threads, and you picked this one why? |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
72. This Strikes Me As Pretty Bogus on the Dad's Part |
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ithinkmyliverhurts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
73. Well, I was hoping they could nip the one in the bud. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
75. Ah jeez |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Well Buffy here's something to consider.... |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
82. Uncircumcised men are more susceptible to STD's. |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #82 |
88. Men with no penises are even less susceptible to STDs. |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #82 |
90. I had a friend who had to get it done at age 24. |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 01:58 AM Response to Reply #90 |
100. HAD TO? BULLSHIT! |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:18 AM Response to Reply #100 |
106. Oh pshaw. Anyone getting it done that old has a definite need. |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:21 AM Response to Reply #106 |
108. Nope. I worked with a guy who got it done in his 40s. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:36 AM Response to Reply #108 |
111. Well, I stand corrected. The few I've run across had it done for med issues. |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:40 AM Response to Reply #108 |
116. I hope he at least got her to have her breast enlarged in the bargain. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:24 AM Response to Reply #106 |
110. Was he American? The Dr. American? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:37 AM Response to Reply #110 |
112. No matter what I say, you'll come up with something else. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #112 |
136. You don't know anything about this subject. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #136 |
139. Bwahahahaha. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #139 |
168. Bwahaha. Your an American nurse. You know nothing. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #168 |
170. What is lost? |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #170 |
173. See post 104 for what is lost. n/t |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #173 |
180. didn't read my post did you? |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #180 |
197. Yeah, I read your post. I thought you were asking a real question. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #168 |
177. It is "you're" not "your", speaking of knowing nothing. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #177 |
200. Well, Ex-k-ha-use me! Ever spell anything wrong before yourself? |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:35 AM Response to Reply #106 |
115. Grrrrrrrrrrr |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #115 |
122. They are rare, an not my friend. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #115 |
123. MRSA? |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #123 |
141. And all men will get them unless circ'd in infancy, right? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #141 |
142. Most of us are arguing AGAINST circumcision. This subthread is about infections. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #142 |
169. Your confusing me with another. There are two of us ganging up on you. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #169 |
171. Question |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #171 |
174. No they don't. Abortions are different. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #174 |
187. There ARE health justifications |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #187 |
191. And they're all bullshit. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #169 |
178. You are right, that quote was from another. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #178 |
192. You are correct about the tip removal in ancient times. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #115 |
126. "Infectoins are pretty much controlled by modern drugs"? |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #126 |
209. It's "infections" not "infectoins" |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:22 AM Response to Reply #82 |
109. So that justifies chopping them all off? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #82 |
120. So chop off your own - this is the dumbest argument imaginable. |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
83. I suppose it's once again time for the "General Acceptance Penis Song" |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 08:56 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. BWAHAHA! |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
84. Circumcision is always sexual assault (nt) |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
86. What's the religious rationale, anyway? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #86 |
121. Who cares? Obviously there's some fucking "scripture" somwhere that can be read accordingly. |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #121 |
220. Cleanliness was the reason, I believe. During the 1980s and even earlier, there were women and men |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
91. I cannot imagine anything more embarrasing for a 12 year old boy than a court case |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 01:33 AM Response to Reply #91 |
98. Best post in this or any other circ thread! |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:12 AM Response to Reply #98 |
103. Thanks. He's a twelve-year-old human being, not a potted plant. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:20 AM Response to Reply #103 |
107. Yes, a 12 yr old should have the choice. eom |
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last_texas_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
95. Yay for circumcision! |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 01:26 AM Response to Reply #95 |
97. You funny. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #95 |
147. I read this circumcision thread, |
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gtar100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 05:18 AM Response to Reply #147 |
167. You should cut that long neck part off. It would be more comfortable. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
96. "OUCCHHHH" ROFLMAO |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
125. "His wishes should be considered" |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
146. I love circumcision threads. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #146 |
148. And what's really funny here is this topic is about should a 12yr old's wishes be taken into account |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #148 |
152. This really could have been a far simpler, less-insecure thread. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #152 |
153. So, do you think 12 yr olds are capable of deciding? Let's make this into legal thread. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #153 |
154. Well, it certainly depends on the situation. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #154 |
155. Carry discussion over to other thread. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #154 |
156. Thanks. I just started another topic asking this. |
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #156 |
161. Your link leads to the linked from thread. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 12:36 AM Response to Reply #161 |
164. oops, making a confusing thread moreso. Try this one. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #146 |
151. Thank you, Occam! I just re-read some of the threads here and I am shocked |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #151 |
160. You think you can pull that kind of trick? |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #160 |
181. (sigh) I expected this kind of response from someone. Guess it's gonna be you... |
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 12:27 AM Response to Reply #151 |
162. Where is this anti-semitism you're talking about? |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #162 |
175. Go back and read the posts yourself. Perhaps you don't see it. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #175 |
188. Ha, only the Elect can see, the Unwashed need not be pointed to it. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 08:33 AM Response to Reply #188 |
190. OK, let's leave it at anti-Semitic since that covers both. n/t |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #190 |
216. Let's not, and have you explain yourself instead. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #216 |
217. I won't do your homework for you. Read the posts. If you find them |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #217 |
222. What a cowardly post. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #222 |
223. You want me to do your finger pointing for you. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #223 |
224. How marvelously empathic of you. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #224 |
225. Since I cannot convince you to examine posts that you have seen fit to defend without defending |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #225 |
226. What posts? This is McCarthy tactics! |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #146 |
158. Completely missing the point. |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #146 |
165. you forgot the "only Jews are good at penis modification" |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
157. yay!!! -- a circumcision thread!!! -- |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
176. He's 12 years old and probably just starting to have fun with it |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #176 |
179. The boy may be the one wanting it. What about that? |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #179 |
189. When he's 18 he can sign the form & have it done. |
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WheelWalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
182. Sounds suspiciously Pro Choice to me. |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
183. Since he is the one who has to hold and look at his penis on a daily basis |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #183 |
219. Right on, Horse! This kid should have a penis with YOUR name on it! |
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Boudica the Lyoness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
186. I never had this awful thing done to my sons |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
195. Oh, the turmoile! |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
196. OMG! That poor kid! His dad has put him through hell! Imagine going to court at age 12 |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #196 |
221. In Massachusetts, the courts allowed children of 14 to decide which parent they wanted to live with. |
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Love Bug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
199. His penis, his decision |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
205. I'm just sorry this had to happen in Oregon. Those two parents deserve all the heartache |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #205 |
207. Better than Mel Gibson's next movie about Terri Schaivo |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #207 |
210. LOL. Let's threadjack this sucker. Ummm... look below: |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #210 |
212. Current favorite: "There Will Be Blood... on Our Foreskins" |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #210 |
215. Severing Ryan's Privates |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #215 |
218. You are TOO MUCH, Touchdown! I love them all! You are a joy! |
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