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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:44 PM Original message |
Poverty, nutrition and choice. |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. You should visit a city sometime |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I spent my kindergarten year in an LA project. |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I've never lived in a big city. However, in the town I live now, there |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Absolutely true. It's hard to be poor in a rural area. n/t |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Good luck finding a grocery store these days |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
2. I lived in a poor neighborhood and they had major food market |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Then why? |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
7. I am very glad that you have the opportunity to feed your family ... |
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Sal Minella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Beautifully said. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. I am absolutely grateful for the life I have. |
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RayOfHope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #12 |
49. Have you LOOKED at the ingredients in a can of soup lately |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
9. The poor are obese for a number of reasons |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Is the observation that obesity is a chronic problem among the poor "denigration"? |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. You post was in bad form |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Like it or not, social policy is my (and your) responsiblity. |
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frankenforpres (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
59. those in the know |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
10. First off, congratulations on having a garden to supplement your food budget. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Simplicity is mostly a choice. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. The USDA report has one good suggestion |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. The rolling grocer stand is a good idea |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Yes, the biggest problem with canned vegetables is added sodium. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
14. Nobody always makes good nutritional choices. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Grains are the biggest piece of the food pyramid. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. The food pyramid |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Thanks for this |
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El Pinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:05 AM Response to Reply #30 |
42. Too much white rice & noodles and too few vegetables has spiked Asian diabetes rates in recent years |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #30 |
46. There are many interconnected factors. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. I recently read the book "South" by Ernest Shackleton |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Redeemed in penguins |
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nadine_mn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
15. Have you ever carried bags of beans, potaotes, and canned goods home? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Are you suggesting that the working poor are obese... |
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nadine_mn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Are you daft? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. If good nutrition among the poor is rare because bad is easier and cheaper... |
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nadine_mn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I grew up poor, was homeless |
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demgurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
27. I am glad you have the tools you need to survive. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I don't think the goal of finding a solution is served by pretending to have no opinion. |
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demgurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. The fact is that no matter what you are buying.... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. My bad, it was $11 garlic. |
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demgurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 08:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Wow! I had no idea that garlic could be so expensive! |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. One of the problems I see |
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demgurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I do have a confession..... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. good point |
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demgurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. As I said before..... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:09 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I see charity and public policy as different things. |
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demgurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #40 |
48. See, your arguments were exactly why I was confused at first. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Reasonable people may disagree |
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demgurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. I really (honestly) do not want to appear to be a contrarian here.... |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
31. $450 budget for groceries is not the same as $600 per month budget for EVERYTHING |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. That is correct, I don't know. |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 12:23 AM Response to Reply #33 |
60. from CA Dept of Soc. Services: |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Thank you for this. |
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allalone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 07:21 AM Response to Original message |
41. back up a minute |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. No. You missed the "if". |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
43. There's a big difference between city and country. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. Fully agree. |
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El Pinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
44. Somehow the topic of obesity rates of the poor being a problem for us wiser folks to solve... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. I think it's up to society to solve. |
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El Pinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. In essence I don't think it's a bad idea |
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distantearlywarning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
45. Rice, potatoes, & bread. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. The price differential does surprise me. |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:32 AM Response to Reply #45 |
62. i LIVE on rice, potatoes, and bread and am in excellent health; weigh the same as in H.S. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. you probably don't have metabolic syndrome or insulin resistance |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
47. What kind of nutritional training do we give the poor? |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:23 AM Response to Original message |
61. good points; most people eat the way they did when they grew up. nt |
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