Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

"The Fantasy of Bipartisanship"

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:46 PM
Original message
"The Fantasy of Bipartisanship"
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 05:50 PM by pat_k
CBS News
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/25/opinion/printable3752419.shtml">The Fantasy of Bipartisanship
Jan 26, 2008
by Gary Younge


. . .
In and of itself, bipartisanship is a goal that is both inarguable and insubstantial. It is treated as a matter of orthodoxy that Americans crave a more bipartisan approach to national politics. But polls show that on issues they care about, just about half want politicians to seek solutions through compromise. Their ambivalence is not surprising. As a means to an end, bipartisanship makes sense. But as an end in itself, it is a hollow notion unless you define who you want to join forces with and why.

. . .Candidates can talk about "transcending" race, gender, region and party all they like. But before we can talk sensibly about transcending difference, we must first transform the conditions that give these differences meaning. . .


The diagnosis Mr. Younge offers hits a truth, but he goes astray with his "treatment."

There can be no "bipartisanship" with fascists. Our nation is in a crisis that has nothing to do with "left" or "right." It's fascists vs. anti-fascists. Insiders vs. Outsiders. The People vs. the "professionals" and "stratergists."

The ONLY rational "way out" is through IMPEACHMENT. Impeaching Bush and Cheney is the most immediate and effective way this nation can confront the truth that the USA has become a war criminal nation that spies on its own citizens. And it is probably the only way to get back on the path to a "more perfect union." It is the probably the only way back to true "bipartisanship" where a majority of the members of our opposing parties are committed in the principles this nation was founded on.

It's time to "divide the nation" -- to "divide" the fascists from the anti-fascists. To force the people on the Hill to declare themselves with the torturers or against them. It is a "divide" that polls tell is somethign like 75%/25% -- and that = UNITY.

Note: While the article takes issue with Obama's message, it's not about Obama. It's about wrong-headed "orthodoxy" that pervades in the beltway -- a topic for General Discussion.

__________________________________

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Senator/16">Only Impeachment Can Unify Our Once-Great Nation



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:48 PM
Response to Original message
1. It's apparently anti-fascists day here at DU.
:applause:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. every day should be anti-facist day, here in America
every single day. :applause:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:55 PM
Response to Original message
3. The fascists can leave
and go live in some banana republic, rather than turning us into one. The Fundies can go too, since they support it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:59 PM
Response to Original message
4. Does CBS regularly reprint stuff from the Nation?
Stuff like this?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. (Stuff about Fascists?)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #4
11. Have seen it before.
Particularly on impeachment, and I imagine other topics (although impeachment is what I keep my eyes peeled for).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 06:06 PM
Response to Original message
6. This nation doesn't have faith in it's own principles.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 06:15 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. Most in this nation don't even know what those principles are. n/t
:kick:


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 06:45 PM
Response to Original message
8. recommend
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 06:47 PM
Response to Original message
9. Calling bipartisanship
a fantasy under the * Admin is very appropriate, IMO.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 07:14 PM
Response to Original message
10. Lewis Black on bipartisanship:
The only thing worse than a Republican or a Democrat is when the two work together. The Republican says "I've got a really shitty idea", and the Democrat says "And I can make it shittier!"

As far as I can tell, the only bipartisanship I've seen lately is when Snowe and Lieberman get together to whitewash the Whitehouse crimes, or when the gang of 14 get together to ram through a bunck of unqualified judges that don't have any business sitting on the bench. That's what I see.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 15th 2024, 11:38 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC