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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 07:35 PM
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Failling Afghanistan
Study: Afghanistan could fail as a state By ANNE FLAHERTY, Associated Press Writer
52 minutes ago



Afghanistan risks sliding into a failed state and becoming the "forgotten war" because of deteriorating international support and a growing violent insurgency, according to an independent study.

The assessment, co-chaired by retired Marine Corps Gen. James Jones and former U.N. Ambassador Thomas Pickering, serves as a warning to the Bush administration at a time military and congressional officials are debating how best to juggle stretched warfighting resources.

The administration wants to re-energize anti-terrorism efforts in Afghanistan and Pakistan, where al-Qaida is regenerating. But the U.S. still remains heavily invested in Iraq, and officials are sending strong signals that troop reductions there will slow or stop altogether this summer.

"Afghanistan stands at a crossroads," concludes the study, an advance copy of which was obtained by The Associated Press. "The progress achieved after six years of international engagement is under serious threat from resurgent violence, weakening international resolve, mounting regional challenges and a growing lack of confidence on the part of the Afghan people about the future direction of their country."

A major issue has been trying to win the war with "too few military forces and insufficient economic aid," the study adds.

Among the group's nearly three dozen recommendations: increase NATO force levels and military equipment sent to Afghanistan, decouple U.S. management of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, establish a special envoy to coordinate all U.S. policy on Afghanistan, and champion a unified strategy among partner nations to stabilize the country in five years.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates said he was not familiar with the study's findings, but he struck a more optimistic tone on Afghanistan's future.

"I would say that the security situation is good," Gates told The Associated Press. "We want to make sure it gets better, and I think there's still a need to coordinate civil reconstruction, the economic development side of it."

Gates said more troops are needed in Afghanistan, but "certainly not ours." When asked how many more NATO troops might be needed, he said that number should be determined by ground commanders.

Sen. John Kerry said it was "past time for wakeup calls" and that a "comprehensive, thoughtful approach" in Afghanistan was urgently needed.

"The same extremist group which plotted the attacks of 9/11 are reconstituting themselves on the Afghan border and grow more organized by the day, making the stakes higher and higher," said Kerry, D-Mass., a senior member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

The Jones-Pickering assessment, slated for public release on Wednesday, says the U.S. should rethink its military and economic strategy in Afghanistan in large part because of deteriorating support among voters in NATO countries.

If international forces are pulled, the fragile Afghan government would "likely fall apart," the report warns.

The study was a voluntary effort coordinated by the Center for the Study of the Presidency, a nonpartisan organization in Washington, as a follow-on to the Iraq Study Group. That study group was a congressionally mandated blue-ribbon panel hailed as the first major bipartisan assessment on the Iraq war since the 2003 invasion.

While the Afghanistan study has not created the same buzz as the Iraq assessment, the center's latest findings still are likely to wield political clout because of those involved.

Last year, Jones led a high-profile study on Iraq security forces, which was used by lawmakers to challenge President Bush's own assessments. Most recently, the retired Marine Corps general, known for his outspoken independence, was tapped to advise Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on security aspects of the new Israeli-Palestinian peace talks.

Pickering was a longtime U.S. ambassador and a former undersecretary of state.

Panel members include Charles Robb, a former Democratic senator who served on the Iraq Study Group, and David Abshire, who helped organize the Iraq study. Abshire is president of the Center for the Study of the Presidency.

According to the report, the center decided to initiate the study after ISG discussions made clear that Afghanistan was at risk of becoming "the forgotten war."

"Participants and witnesses pointed to the danger of losing the war in Afghanistan unless a reassessment took place of the effort being undertaken in that country by the United States, NATO and the international community," the study states.

Similar problems were identified in two other assessments also due for release Wednesday, including one by the National Defense University and another by the Atlantic Council in Washington, which Jones chairs. The NDU study included specific proposals to rejuvenate Afghanistan's agricultural sector.

The Senate Foreign Relations Committee was expected to be briefed Wednesday on Afghanistan by intelligence officials. On Thursday, the panel will convene an open hearing, featuring testimony from Jones and Pickering. Also testifying Thursday will be Richard Boucher, assistant secretary of state for South and Central Asia.

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Isnt that just F-IN nice, my nephew is there in the Army.......:scared: :scared: :hi:
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east texas lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 07:49 PM
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1. It would be different I'm sure....
If Afghanistan sat atop of a few million barrels of what Cheney considers to be
a "Strategic Asset".
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 07:52 PM
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2. My Brother-In-Law is there in the ARMY now.
He is there for the 2nd time, went to Iraq once. They extended his tour. He was supposed to be out a year ago.

Hopefully, he'll be home March-ish, but they don't really have the troops to replace him.

And now, the Pakistan-Taliban are taking over the border regions.

I wish for your nephew's safe and soon return.
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Saboburns Donating Member (690 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:57 PM
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3. Poor folk.
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 10:09 PM by Saboburns
Afghans have had a shitty damn deal damn near 30 years.

First the Russians invaded and killed them.

Then the Taliban took over and killed them.

Then the US invaded and killed them.

All the while blowing their houses and food up.

Poor. Poor people.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:40 AM
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5. Indeed. One of the most impoverished, strongest, most ethical, kindest, harshest
people on the planet. Poor in terms of, for the most part, barely surviving, but with a rich and proud history.

Your summary is accurate but leaves out a few details. The earlier history of resisting and tossing out the Brits should be an instructive part of that recent history, but maybe most important is that the US under Carter, Brzezinski and the CIA in particular, intervened in Afghanistan in order to undermine a government seen as too favorable to the Soviet Union and precipitate the direct involvement of the Soviet Army (a dumb move on their part). This, of course, led to the conflict which both drove out the Soviets and created both the Taliban and Al Qaeda, two importantly different organizations.

Brzezinski boasted of this in the following interview: http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BRZ110A.html

Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs <"From the Shadows">, that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?

B: It isn't quite that. We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.

Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today?

B: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.

Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic fundamentalism, having given arms and advice to future terrorists?

B: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?

Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.

B: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid. There isn't a global Islam. Look at Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion. It is the leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers. But what is there in common among Saudi Arabian fundamentalism, moderate Morocco, Pakistan militarism, Egyptian pro-Western or Central Asian secularism? Nothing more than what unites the Christian countries.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:03 PM
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4. got a link?
thanks
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