What will it really take to reduce the power of corporations over governments?

In my opinion, the central problem is that corporations are in control of governments, when it should be the other way around. This is true not only at the federal level but also for state, county and city governments. In my opinion, this needs to be reversed, so that governments control corporations, and that no real progress can take place until that happens. But how?

by electing fresh, new representatives more often. The six year terms in the Senate are kind of sticky, but those two year House seats....

However, the basic premise of dumping the corporatists and DINOs works for me. A few more election cycles and we may even get enough to enact election reform and put the corporations out of the business of politics.

That's all it takes.

But how do we get that done when the corporations are in control? It's not like they are going to willing give up power.

- Make7

instead of corporate candidates

We need to elect people to write laws restricting the ability of government to bow to corporate demands (think about how defense companies write our foreign policy!).

It is not the Corporations that have control over Government. The fault lies with the members of congress that listen and obey the lobbyists wishes. This happens so often in Washington that it would make the common person ill. Why do you think nothing gets done?! This goes for both Republicans and Democrats. We need to take back the power and write, email, lobby ourself and make our conrgessman listen to us. After all, they did not magically win a seat in the congress, We the People elected him/her to it. We have to remind them of that and let them know when they have strayed off course and are not listening to us.

I'm not worried about union lobbyists and animal rights lobbyists.

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Bang!

What is wrong with wanting to make money and advance your way of life!

Now it's all about exploiting others, creating a new class of robber barons.
Fuck it all.
Instead of shooting them, maybe I'll just shoot myself. Nothing will change in this world anyways.
Goodbye

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Of course, they were simpletons and sociopaths. And you .... ?

collectively.
Support and strengthen unions.
Start local.
We need more leaders. People willing to devote their lives to the cause. People to organize and push the local parties to demand more.

There is no magic. We are 40 years behind our corporatist opponents. We have to get to work and keep working forever. The fight never ends. My generation fought it's battles and then moved on, but no one stepped in to continue the fight. Everybody thought it was done. It's never done.

We're probably going to win this election, but it's not because we have convinced masses of people that progressivism is better. It's only because our opponents have fucked up so badly that most people will have no choice but to give us a chance.

Identify the enemy. Is it capitalism? Is it the two party system? Is it greed? Maybe we have to fight them all, but each may require a different strategy.

by any part of the Constitution."

(although the corporate-war-industrial machine will just have them assassinated if they get too close to changing anything)

otherwise, armed insurrection, a season of the guillotine and institution of a real government would be required, judging by history

and it is unaccounted for in the Constitution. Personally, I think we are still about two branches of government short...

movement to go back to the good old days of bartering? We stop buying, they start dying.

When you win the lottery, you get taxed half of your winnings. So say that a publicly traded company like Exxon makes $36 billion in profit. They'd have to pay $18 billion in taxes. They do nothing with that money. It either goes to the pocketbook of some greedy asshole or it sits in some overseas bank account generating interest. And the same would go to the CEOs who make hundred-million dollar retirement packages. If the law's good enough for us, it's good enough for them.

don't hold your breath.

Putting the government in charge of everything can be even worse! What we need is the people to have the power. When the people are free then can real progress begin.

Wouldn't solve the prob, but it would help.

in general, it tends to breed parasites. And parasites tend to leave corpses.

Also, undoing NAFTA and international profit schemes.