Expelled: Because of Lying

(I am writing what I will call an official rebuttal of "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed", because of this, I am not only granting, but I completely approve of people copying and pasting this anywhere they see fit without needing to get my permission, you can copy the whole thing, just feel free to do anything you want as long as you show it to friends, foes, and everyone else for that matter.)

EXPELLED: BECAUSE OF LYING

What is Intelligent Design?

It may have been ruled an "establishment of religion" in Kitzmiller v. Dover, but this hasn't stopped Intelligent Design advocates from trying to insert in our children's schools. Coming from people who claim that Intelligent Design isn't religious, but yet are secretly pushing this as religious, and in the process are making so many deceptive claims, doesn't that seem wrong? Didn't God say not to lie? In "Expelled: Because of Lying", the deceptive claims and acts of hypocrisy by the forces of Intelligent Design will be examined, every person who has seen Stein's documentary should also read this report.

Are Intelligent Design advocates persecuted?

Then tell me, why is there only ONE theory of Intelligent Design. Intelligent Design for some reason only refers to one designer, why is that? Intelligent Design advocates do not want to talk about the design of the Designer, why is that? This is a theory that Intelligent Design advocates want to put in our schools, yet there are things about it that they don't want to address. Science begs for more questions, for even the most mundane things...

"Why is the sky blue?"
"Why is the Earth round?"

For someone to say "Eh... let's not address that." is an attempt to dillute science, maybe this is why "Big Science" rejects Intelligent Design, because it doesn't allow for further thinking, it doesn't allow for questions to be asked, it is tantamount to the evangelism of our children.

There is more on the subject of alternative theories of Intelligent Design that are being suppressed by, quite ironically, the Intelligent Design community. There is a small niche in the Intelligent Design community that believes that there are multiple designers. The attacks on them don't come from "Darwinists", but from the "persecuted" Intelligent Design advocates themselves. How come there is no support from them? You would think that one persecuted group wouldn't be systematically ignoring another group to the point of persuction, right?

One person has stated that is gotten so bad that the hypothesis that there is only a "single designer" has a "stranglehold" on Intelligent Design.

Is this how a group that claims it is persecuted should act?


Why does Expelled pretend that there is no middle ground?

Expelled tries so hard to claim that Intelligent Design advocates only want to teach a suppressed theory in schools and nothing else, but this seems to be debunked by the movie itself. In reality, it truly appears that Intelligent Design advocates are trying to foster divisions between science and religion, and the American People as well.

An associate producer of the film, Mark Mathis, excluded Kenneth R. Miller from the film because he is a Roman Catholic who accepts the theory of evolution.

The film dismisses proponents of the theory of theistic evolution as well, it wants to pretend that there are no scientists who are religious, it pretends that scientists like Kenneth Miller, like Francis Collins, and many more don't even exist, it basically wants to make us think that there is no middle ground, for something that is claiming persecution and suppression, this does seem rather odd, doesn't it?


Why does Expelled say that Darwin was behind the holocaust?

This is probably one of the most controversial claims. While Stein is talking about "Darwinism", images of fights, guillotines, gas chambers, and death camps appear, some sort of guilt by association one could suppose. But how true is this really?

Where is Darwin mentioned in Mein Kampf?
Nowhere.

How many times did Hitler cite Darwin in his rallies?
None.

Are there any portraits or statements of Darwin in any of the death camps?
No.

The truth of the matter is that the theory of evolution was suppressed in Nazi Germany, Darwin's books were frequently burned by the Nazis.

Intelligent Design isn't that intelligent. It avoids asking questions, which is what science is. It wants to avoid a middle ground, which seems to to be more about division and confrontation, turning our schools into a battleground and science into a farce, which is what neither of the two should ever become. And it advances itself through falsehoods and deception, is this what science should become?

Intelligent Design needs to be rejected, by scientists, by parents, by students, by the government, by everyone. It is the eugenics theory and the abiogenesis theory of the 21st century, it has no place in our schools or anywhere else except for the minds of the advocates who support it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expelled:_No_Intelligence_Allowed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/10/you-too-could-b.html
http://www.library.arizona.edu/exhibits/burnedbooks/documents.htm

It states as its first rule that nothing complex can exist without a designer.


Well, then, who designed the designer because obviously that designer is a complex being.

I mean if you had no idea of God or Gods and said "Well Birds are complicated - someone must have invented them" you'd be right. But obviously the proponents of Intelligent Design aren't reasoning that way - their starting point is "We know there's a God, so how do we prove he created everything."

Bryant
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Calling Intelligent Design a theory. Unfortunately, the ID'ers have used language effectively and have gotten the word theory, in science terms, to come to mean guess or opinion so that we've arrived at a point when they can either say things like, "Evolution is 'just' a theory," or "Intelligent Design is a theory just as valid as evolution. Why shouldn't it be taught?"

Theory in science doesn't mean guess. It effectively means fact. It's a hypothesis that has been exposed to the scientific method, rigorously tested, and independently verified by other scientists. This is impossible to do with ID.

TlalocW

You wrote, "Theory in science doesn't mean guess. It effectively means fact. It's a hypothesis that has been exposed to the scientific method, rigorously tested, and independently verified by other scientists. This is impossible to do with ID."

You can't really say it's a fact without being able to reproduce it. Considering that theories of evolution vary from scientist to scientist (i.e. micro evolution, macro evolution, punctuated equilibrium) and that those theories have evolved themselves over time when exposed to new evidence, it would be hard to call it a fact. Evolution was a theory that many scientist have agreed upon but how do you rigorously test a theory that can't be reproduced. What are you verifying other than someone else's opinion when any science used to verify would take millions of year to prove?

David