D.C. Madam's Suicidal Thoughts

I've posted a couple other OPs on the subject of the DC Madam's alleged suicide today and I am STRONGLY suspicious as to whether she did indeed kill herself. But there are some clues surfacing that may jeopardize any benefit of doubt. So, in the interest of equal time, and considering I just now found this, please have a look:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0501081palfrey1.html

TheSmokingGun.com has generally sympathized with Palfrey, specifically focusing on how she was treated and how it was the federal government that raided her home while she was away and not local vice squads.

I hope she's in a better place now. Rest in peace, Deborah.

jesus of nazareth.

this life is the best place.

in terms of counter-example.

i DO hope she left some info with Flynt.

Edited to add:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0707/4872.html

much more quiet than shooting or stabbing someone because they can't yell either? Also, poisoning is tricky and can backfirel Then staging a hanging and putting something like a suicide note with the victim shouldn't be that hard. If I were authorities I would study that note. Even if the victim wrote it, it could have been coerced. Like I said if I were to do myself in I would create an Oleander cocktail not something as icky as choking to death.

Lots of marks will be present if the hanging is post mortem. Going in and out unnoticed of a Tarpon Springs back yard isn't that easy either. Let's wait for the coroner.

Real life isn't so CSI.

:scared:

The minute I read that headline, I thought..."oooh, how conveeeeenient."
For somebody high up who used her service.
Ooooh.

I wish I wasn't so cynical, but let's face it.
If a powerful administration can flip an election, can invade a country, and somehow "lose" billions of dollars...

I think they can kill whoever and whenever and however...they want.
Period.

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/05/12/18414982.php

..snip.."DiBiagio had already witnessed the brutal murder of his Assistant US Attorney Jonathan Luna in December 2003. A husband and father of two, Luna had departed in his vehicle, strangely leaving his cell phone on his desk at his office, and drove a circuitous route through Delaware, New Jersey, and then Pennsylvania before he was found in a creek near the Pennsylvania Turnpike in Denver, PA stabbed to death 36 times, supposedly with his own pen knife. Federal authorities leaned toward a suicide but local investigators treated the death as a homicide. In 2004, DiBiagio claimed he was being pressured to stop his investigation of Ehrlich's staff for links to gambling (particularly the gambling interests of jailed Maryland/DC GOP lobbyist Jack Abramoff), prostitution, and other corruption and filed a threat report with the FBI. The Washington Post and Washington Times then reported that Luna was fearful that DiBiagio was going to fire him, which led to Luna's "suicide." It is a charge DiBiagio strongly denied. DiBiagio told the New York Times that the pressure from Ehrlich's office and the Justice Department served "to intimidate my office and shut down the investigations." Maryland Democratic Senator Ben Cardin has asked for an investigation of DiBiagio's firing.

Luna's death on December 4, 2003 was followed a few days later, on December 10, 2003, by the indictment of Maryland State Police Superintendent Ed Norris for using his Executive Protective Unit (EPU), the unit that protects the Governor of Maryland and other state VIPs, to transport prostitutes to various locations, including posh Baltimore and New York City hotels, including the Baltimore Hyatt. Like Palfrey, Norris also came under investigation for tax evasion by the Baltimore IRS office. ABC's 20/20 reported that Madam Palfrey's escorts were also driven to expensive Washington hotels, including the Hay-Adams. Palfrey, herself, has suggested that some of her escorts may have been linked to the case of jailed California Republican Congressman Duke Cunningham, Mitchell Wade's MZM, Inc., and Shirlington Limousine. The limousine service was, according to investigators, involved in transporting escorts to the Watergate and Capitol Hill's Westin Grand Hotel.

The murder of Luna and the firing of DiBiagio eliminated the threat that the well-heeled customers of the DC/Baltimore prostitution ring, many of them GOP stalwarts, would be exposed prior to the December 2004 presidential election. The attempt by Justice prosecutors and Judge Kessler to limit the criminal case to Palfrey continues the effort to punish the DC Madam and her employees and divert attention away from the customers. In May 2004, at the same time Norris and his chief of staff agreed to a plea deal in the prostitution case and received light semtences, Palfrey came under intense federal investigation. Palfrey claims that she is being scapegoated by the very same people who were her customers.""

bastard from Hell Cheney is breathing a big sigh of relief. Suicide? I have no idea but I do believe the woman was hounded, negated, minimized, and done in. One can only hope she left folders of amazing information in many areas!

RIP Ms. Palfry :hug:

they still broke her down and ruined her for life.

:shrug:

it just wraps everything up a little too nicely, and now we'll never hear the depths of the case.

I thought the same thing as I read about it. I don't know if something fishy happened or not, but one thing this administration has taught me is that they are capable of absolutely anything. They are totally unscrupulous. No matter how evil or immoral, the only thing they would consider is whether or not they could get away with it. The only thing that is a given with these guys is the fact that they can not be trusted.

It is believable that this woman might have committed suicide. I certainly see how she could have considered it. She seemed to be facing a lifetime in jail and apparently her previous experience was hell. But, honest to God, it's also completely believable that she was killed. I tend to doubt it, but I also have to remember, if it would serve their purposes, these bastards would kill in a heartbeat if they felt they could get away with it. That's the shame, that our leadership is both unlikeable and untrustworthy, and every reason in the world to think that.

It's very easy for someone to *say* something like "I'd kill myself before I spent time in jail" but when it actually came down to the wire, the act of *doing* it is a totally different thing. Thinking and doing are 2 different things entirely...

when things got really, really bad? Fortunately, most of us get past it and try to solve the nightmares we're going through and move on. I don't believe she committed suicide for one second.

No Way there is another convenient death