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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:28 AM
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What are the fundamentals of being a Democrat?
I just read an article where a Republican blogger said:

...he believes in "the fundamentals of being a Republican - less government, individual freedom, personal responsibility, strong national defense."


Which just made me laugh, considering that Bush has given us more government, taken away our freedoms, has a total absence of personal accountability, and has given us the worldwide disaster of the Iraq War.

But the Republicans keep saying lines like these because they make a good slogan. So what does being a Democrat mean? Mirroring this guy's language, I would say it stands for smarter government, individual opportunity, corporate responsibility, and a strong national defense. (That last one belongs to us, not them.)

What would you say, in a sentence, are the fundamentals of being a Democrat?
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:29 AM
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1. well - not sure I can summarize in a sentence - but am sure it would include
some thoughts about equal rights for all U.S. citizens
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:41 AM
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3. You mean something along the line of
Democrats believe that ability to the job is more important than cronyism.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:43 AM
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5. something more along the line that everyone is treated equally
regardless of context - education, hiring, pay, benefits, voting
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:50 AM
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7. I am reading No Ordinary Time by Doris Kearns Goodwin
It's a book about Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt during World War II.

Eleanor fought very hard for what you are saying. Franklin agreed with her views, but was always conscious of what he could actually get done politically.

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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:02 AM
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11. I certainly understand that - but it seems to me to be the least of what
we should stand for as a political party - the place where these things can actually start to be dealt with.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:40 AM
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2. I like your summary of Democratic values:
"smarter government, individual opportunity, corporate responsibility, strong national defense"

It's really hard to come up with all that is good about Dems in a few words, but I think you just did.

Since 2000, the Republicans have given us a bigger, corrupt, incompetent government; curtailed our freedoms as indviduals; passed the buck for their domestic and foreign policy failures; and wasted our material and manpower military advantages to the point where our country is vulnerable to other much weaker groups.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:42 AM
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4. The lesser of two evils.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:43 AM
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6. They vote against their own self interest.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:52 AM
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8. I would add
providing security to those without it (through social security, disability, other health and welfare programs), achieving good political ties with other nations, stronger laws against corporate malfeasance (pollution, environmental fuckups) and a strong economic foundation, including taxes on those who can afford it most to boost that .
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:45 AM
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12. I think that the content of what you are saying is right,
but I think the wording in some of the other posts say the same thing in a way that appeals to more people.

One reason that Reagan was able to hoodwink Reagan Dems is that he made it sound as though Dems were just for the poor and African Americans and not the middle class. Reagan convinced the majority of people that government was the enemy and that corporations were the savior.

Democrats want businesses to be strong, but they do not want corporations to benefit at the expense of the country as a whole.
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:53 AM
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9. I would say the following
Responsible government, Individual Freedom, Corporate accountability, and a strong foreign policy.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:58 AM
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10. I'd say you're on the right track
Edited on Fri May-02-08 09:59 AM by BerryBush
and add:

--Government just big enough to ensure those who cannot take care of themselves are cared for, and that those who need help getting back on their feet or taking advantage of an opportunity can get that help

--Individual freedom, including the freedom to make decisions about matters concerning one's own body without the imposition of the beliefs of others

--Personal responsibility combined with responsibility for caring for those who cannot care for themselves or need help caring for themselves

--Strong national defense, but not at the expense of other public goods, and whose primary role is indeed defense of our country when it is attacked, NOT offense that preemptively invades other countries to "spread freedom" or "advance our national interest"

OK, that's not a sentence, but I don't think Democrats' values CAN be summed up in a simple single sentence. In fact, I'd argue that's inherent to being a Democrat: you naturally reject simple solutions to complex issues. If you are a Republican, you are far more likely to believe in the magic of simple statements and easy slogans.

ed. for typo
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:52 AM
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13. feign concern for working- and middle-class Americans in public
engage in vicious dogmatic hairsplitting here

behave like pigs in DC
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:53 AM
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14. "It Takes a Village"
Meaning we are all in this together so we need to work for the benefit of all and not just the few. Plus "Do onto others as you would have them do onto you" Government is to "Maintain the Health and Welfare of the Nation"
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:48 PM
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15. Its funny
When I was in my mid teens... many years ago. I thought I would be a republican because I was told the core values of a republican were:

less government, individual freedom, personal responsibility

Boy, did I feel stupid when I found out it was only a slogan and had nothing to do with their actual values. Their real values are more along the lines of:

Greed, death, destruction.
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