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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 03:57 PM
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U.S. rejects Canadian's 'child soldier' defense
U.S. rejects Canadian's 'child soldier' defense

Jane Sutton
Reuters North American News Service

May 02, 2008 14:33 EST


MIAMI (Reuters) - A Canadian captured in Afghanistan at age 15 can be tried for murder in the Guantanamo war crimes court, a U.S. military judge ruled in rejecting claims that he was a child soldier who should be rehabilitated rather than prosecuted.

Canadian prisoner Omar Khadr, now 21, is charged in the Guantanamo court with throwing a grenade that killed a U.S. soldier during a firefight at a suspected al Qaeda compound in Afghanistan in 2002.

His military lawyer, Lt. Cmdr. William Kuebler, had argued in February hearings at the Guantanamo naval base that Khadr was a child soldier illegally conscripted by his father, an al Qaeda financier. He urged the judge to drop the charges, which carry a maximum penalty of life in prison.

The judge, Army Col. Peter Brownback, issued a ruling on Wednesday agreeing with prosecutors' position that the law authorizing the Guantanamo trials contained no minimum age.

Brownback's ruling clears the way for Khadr to be tried in the special tribunals created by the Bush administration to try non-U.S. captives it considers "unlawful enemy combatants" outside the regular civilian and military courts.

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/05/us_rejects_canadians_child_sol.php
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:01 PM
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1. Show trials recognize no human rights, nor any humanitarian limits.
Al Qaida has already won.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:28 PM
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2. Was Omar Khadr coerced ?
"The author of the combat report, identified as Lt.-Col. "W," initially wrote July 28, 2002, that another U.S. operative subsequently killed the fighter who "engaged" the deceased U.S. soldier, Lt.-Cmdr. Kuebler told the commission.

About two months later, a new report -- bearing the same July date -- emerged saying the fighter had not been killed.

This is significant, because a separate confidential combat report inadvertently released to journalists last month revealed for the first time that a second fighter had been present alongside Khadr at the time the grenade was thrown. That fighter, who was killed, could be the person Col. "W" refers to in his first draft".


http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=373277

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:34 PM
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3. The Khadrs are no saints
But this issue has some Canadians in an uproar, including me.

Some have made the point that we cannot simultaneously recognize the child soldiers in Sierra Leone as victims while branding a similarly-aged boy a terrorist.

If you want to change the definition of a "child soldier", then fine. Let's just not have the double standard.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:59 PM
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4. This is weird somehow
"charged in the Guantanamo court with throwing a grenade that killed a U.S. soldier during a firefight at a suspected al Qaeda compound in Afghanistan in 2002."

It's a war, so how is that a crime? Is it ipso facto illegal for the other side to fight? I mean, it's what one would expect in a war.

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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 06:28 PM
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5. Seems like common sense, doesn't it? I'm guessing that the U.S. position is that unless you're
wearing a uniform, you're a terrorist when you kill one of our people. And, we who DO wear uniforms are NOT terrorists when we kill YOUR people.

I'm pretty sure this is how it works.

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