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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:17 PM
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DAMN! OH Democratic AG Marc Dann Admits to Affair, 2 Top Aides Fired, 2 More Resign!
2 top Dann aides fired, 2 more resign
Attorney general admits 'romantic relationship' with employee
Friday, May 2, 2008 9:22 AM
Updated: Friday, May 2, 2008 04:15 PM
By James Nash and Alan Johnson
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

Ohio Attorney General Marc Dann admitted today he had an affair with an underling that created an atmosphere that encouraged sexual harassment and cost four people their jobs.

Two top Dann employees were fired and a third resigned because of an internal investigation of sexual harassment complaints released this morning.

And Jessica Utovich, Dann's former scheduler, quit last night.

Although Dann wouldn't name the employee with whom he had a "romantic relationship" during a "difficult time" in his marriage last year, he did admit Utovich had spent the night in his Dublin-area condo.

-snip

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/05/02/dannnew.html?sid=101

WTF?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:19 PM
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1. What is it with Democratic AGs, or former AGs, and their DICKS?
Is Rove handing out aphrodesiac-laced cigars, or what?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:22 PM
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3. It's so fucking disappointing!
:mad:

Wouldn't they think the GOP would be looking for any excuse to destroy their reputations? UFB!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:24 PM
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5. This kind of thing happens all the time in the secular business world.
There's just rarely a reason for it to be made public. In gov't jobs, that's a different story. I haven't read the whole story and what caused the sex harrassment charges, but "relationships" in the office happen all the time.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:40 PM
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11. It shouldn't be happening in venues where the law is supposed to be UPHELD, fachrissake.
Of course "relationships" happen. But the smart public servants try not to, forgive the expression, shit where they eat.

If you're going to have a fling, you do it "horizontally" (again, forgive the expression), meaning you get busy with someone in a tangential office, not within your chain of authority or responsibility. The police officer and the firefighter, sure, why not? The attorney and the assistant registrar of deeds? What the hey!!! But senior-subordinate? That's begging for trouble. Any time the bloom falls off the rose, there's the risk of charges of sexual coercion, harassment, you name it.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:16 PM
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15. I agree with your "shouldn't" comment, but think about it. Relationships
are cultivated through people working closely together. That's WHY they often happen within the chain of authority. That is human nature, whether you like it or not.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:41 PM
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17. Well, if you make the penalty "stiff" enough, forgive the expression, people generally cut that crap
out.

Alternatively, if you provide a mechanism whereby people can advise a senior that they are "dating," and the senior can make adjustments to the work schedule (move one person to a new shift or division, for example) that can mitigate the matter.

Sometimes the illicit nature of the affair is what gives it the thrill. You'd never have a married paramour admitting to a superior that he's sctuping his secretary, for example--in that case, it's risky business.
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Lakerstan Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:56 PM
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13. And Presidents?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:51 PM
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19. Well, I'd say so---he's still paying for that lousy foreplay, isn't he?
FDR, Ike, Kennedy and Johnson (aptly named, so they say) had way more fun, but didn't get caught. Truman was the saint in that run. Nixon was probably just too damn mean and ugly to have any appeal in that regard, Ford was a family man, Carter too, Reagan was besotted (even though Nancy had a bun in the oven when they wed-tsk tsk), GHW Bush didn't get caught with HIS Jenifer (I guess being in the CIA helped) and poor old stupid middle-aged horny Bill, engaging in what teens describe as heavy petting, got caught and excoriated.

Ah, the joys of mid Twentieth Century media discretion...and the woes of latter Twentieth Century media coverage!
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:54 AM
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24. Bill Clinton was Arkansas' AG from 1977 – 1979
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KSinTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:21 PM
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2. Yet he stays? What's up with THAT?
nt
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:30 PM
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7. If everyone who had an affair were fired
We'd have 75% unemployment.

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KSinTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:38 PM
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10. NOT for the affair, for this:
"Dann said he took "full responsibility" for the actions of his underlings."

If it was a dis-chargeable offense for his underlings and he's responsible for the "hostile" environment, I don't see why he wasn't also fired for his lack of oversight and maintenance of a harassment-free workplace.
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:44 PM
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18. That low?
it must vary from region to region then... I think it'd be damn near 100% where I live.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:22 PM
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4. Here's a humorous take on it (from wonkette)
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:26 PM
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6. Sorry but knowing the damage this does to the party in Ohio, I can find nothing humorous
in it.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:34 PM
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8. Oh, come on. The guy was/is an idiot.
Had his secretary/scheduler over to the apartment.

Invited a couple of (female) aides over.

And secretary/scheduler pranced around in her Victoria's Secret?

If this ain't funny, what is it?

"Tragic" won't work.

Give me the adjective you would use, here.

Tom
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:46 PM
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12. The harassers are real pieces of work. Not sure where those pics come from,
probably city IDs or licenses, but damn, they all look like mug shots.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 09:18 AM
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23. The Dems rolled into office in '06 partly due people being sick of a scandal ridden GOP.
I believe this will sway some voters away from the Dem Party, sickened by this scandal-something we definitely do not need.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:37 PM
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9. I have to agree - our party and nation have been decimated because a few egoists put their dicks
ahead of duty, condemning the REST of us to suffer with the backlash the last ten years.

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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:02 PM
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14. That's the difference between Dems and Repukes
Dems' sex scandals are with women. Repukes' sex scandals are with other men!
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 12:51 AM
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22. And This Signifies....What? n/t
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:19 PM
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16. Irrelevant crap...
I could careless who is banging' who. People have sex everyday...:spank:
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 12:09 AM
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20. Another Dem held accountable.
Did the GOP-controlled media miss that part of the story?

Or is the emphasis on the affair?

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Lakerstan Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 12:38 AM
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21. Democrats are lovers, not fighters n/t
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:01 AM
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25. And undoubtedly our "ethics choir" will call for his resignation and public execution
in "tha naaaaame of ethics." :puke:
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:06 AM
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26. I'm still waiting for a reply from AG Dann about my offer of evidence of election fraud
in Ohio 2004. Maybe he is toooo busy!!

Here is my list of those who have not replied to offers of election irregularity and possible election fraud evidence:

The FBI

The No OH USA

Ohio AG Marc Dann
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