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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 10:30 AM Original message |
** House Judiciary hearing on Detainee Interrogation Rules ** |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. Geez, the repukes all want to give opening statements |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
2. No takers on this hearing? It sounds like it will be interesting |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
3. Witnesses are sworn. Yay. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
4. Sounds very interesting |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
5. On witness opening statements now |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
6. Wow, Phillipe Sands is ripping Rumsfeld, Addington, and the * Admin a new one |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. He's amazing |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
7. Sands says that this did not come from down low. Basically said what we all know |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
8. Damn I like this guy, says its a story of crime and coverup at the highest levels |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
9. Questions starting |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
10. OK, looks like I'm typing to myself. Anybody there? |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
11. Whoa, question is does Military Commissions Act a defense for war crimes? |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
12. CSPAN Launchers for Macs |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
13. No statute of limitations on war crimes. Repuke up now |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
14. Geez, talking about the water boarding that we do was a controlled situation |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. When torquemada used water torture it was a controlled situation. |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #14 |
28. Isn't the purpose of torture to be controlled -- enough suffering to coerce information |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
17. Rivkin is obviously the Republican invitee |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. He's an animal. Ooops...sorry animals. Sub-humane? |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #17 |
27. He's a Barbarian |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
18. Thanks |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
19. Repukes keep asking questions about how can we get information from |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Answer: Coercion doesn't work |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
20. TORTURE DOES NOT WORK! |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. But they think it is fun |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
102. they get off on it |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:43 AM Original message |
Stop using "War on Terror." They are criminals, not warriors. Don't |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
30. Davis has asked a great question |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. bush will, but the pardons only stand within the US. International courts |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
23. Ooohhhhhh, Sands is going after a 1997 McCain interview with Rather |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. That was great. |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Did you hear the murmur from the crowd? |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. All of this boggles the mind and to think that there is need for a dialogue |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #23 |
104. Oh that is quite telling |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
29. Torture is illegal in Isreal. Rivkin is trying to wiggle out of it with a "but" |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
32. Trying to imply that Pelosi and Jane Harmon are culpable in the torture |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Is it still right that they stayed quiet? |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Thats debatable. It would have been considered treason to divulge it |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I don't consider it treasonous. They were involved with covering-up crimes. |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. It was a deflection to make sure that a dem was brought up in a bad light |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
33. Damn, Issa is an asshat |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
36. Keith Ellison is a good egg..... |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Yes,, he is |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
41. Ellison asks if they know of any ticking time bomb cases |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
42. Wow!!! Ellison!!! There has been no "ticking time-bomb" case |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
43. Do you know any ticking bomb cases? Panelest Cohn, yes I do, |
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electropop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
44. Thanks for the tip. |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
45. Cohn!! Dissed the administration and speaking Truth to Power!!! This is excellent!!! nT |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. King accusing panelists of "extending the war by extending |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. For a while, I was alone here typing to myself |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. She is fantastic. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
47. is this hearing still going on? |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Yes. Dem Scott up from Virginia |
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jtrockville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. I just tuned in. It's still going. Phillipe Sands is testifying. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. just a question |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
52. Does anybody outside this administration think that waterboarding is not torture? |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #52 |
115. that really nails it |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
53. Ooohhhh, information obtained by torture is not admissible in court |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
54. Cohn in a round about way called Shrub a war criminal!!!!! |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. A few moments ago, It wasn't in a "round about way"t. n/t |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. lol!!!!!! No, it wasn't!!!!! For those who weren't here. Cohn said the reason why Mukasey didn't |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #64 |
100. AND that they couldn't use any evidence in a court of law |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
55. Can the administration change the law by memo? |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. It would be Unconstitutional. |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Finally somebody says it out loud in a hearing |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #57 |
106. At least somebody gets the truth |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
60. Mel Watt (D NC) up now |
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jtrockville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. He suggested a SPECIAL PROSECUTOR |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. oh, he's good what is he saying? |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
62. Professor Cohn calls for special prosecutor to investigate war crimes. n/t |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #62 |
74. a special prosecuter not appointed by Mukasey right? |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
63. Come on folks, vote this up. It needs to be high on the greatest page |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Sorry! I was so engrossed in the hearing I forgot to recommend. Done! |
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jtrockville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. d'oh, thanks for the reminder! |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
65. Thank you MiniMe.. I was out! |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
69. "War Crimes Were Committed" |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #69 |
76. was that said???? |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:35 PM Original message |
yes - Sands said it. Just like that. In those words. |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
70. ATTENTION PEOPLE! WATCH THIS NOW!!! n/t |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
71. "Friendly Allies will have Prosecutions" |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
72. If the US doesn't prosecute, others will. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. I was about to post this |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #72 |
83. Yes!!! |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
73. Under treaty obligation, US is bound by law to investigate |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #73 |
82. Marjorie Cohn |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #73 |
88. moved. n/t |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #88 |
108. She is right if Congress doesn't step up soon here |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
77. Sands saying that if the US doesn't address the torture (prosecute), |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #77 |
86. Yes, go get them. |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #86 |
109. yep and the World will be looking at Congress on WHY didn't |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #109 |
116. and possibly looking at us. |
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jtrockville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
78. These guys are SHAKING IN THEIR BOOTS at the thought of an investigation. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #78 |
96. they should be shaking cause they haven't done anything to |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #96 |
112. And lest us not forget Watched Movies of Abhu Ghahib |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
79. DAMN this is good to hear! |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. I'm so glad that more are hearing this now. |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
81. National Lawyers Guild urging other nations to investigate and |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
84. Tears in my eyes here that it is being said loudly and not by just one person, and it is now in |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:39 PM Original message |
Absolutely correct |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #84 |
99. I, for the first time, FEEL as if we're finally gonig to see justice. n/t |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #99 |
123. I hate to say this, but unless this gets major exposure, justice just won't be done. At least |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
85. I hope that they don't try to detain Sands before he returns to the UK. I'm serious. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. I dare them |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. If no problem there, I wonder what will happen when he tries to return to the US? |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. I hope they are getting all the evidence to do so |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. or put him on "the list" |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. Yes, I implied that in my follow-up post! At least this Brit tells it like it is, not all. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. Phew! I feel so good |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. Same here. Just to hear the Truth get out there! |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
91. CRAP!!! It's over! Did you guys hear Prof. Cohn whispering |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. None of the rethugs challenged her when it came to her saying War Criminals!!!!! |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #95 |
114. Aschcroft Gonzales Rumsfeld Rove Rice Bush Cheney Powel |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
97. Thanks for the help blogging this everybody |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #97 |
101. thanks for the play by play. |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. If it rattled them like it has elated me, then they |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #105 |
110. I want to find the video of that McCain/Rather interview from 1997 |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #97 |
103. I'm putting out an APB on video of this hearing because I feel |
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pberq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #103 |
117. Link for video |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Thanks! I have follow-up thread I'll go post this in. n/t |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. how did you get that link? i've been on the cspan website looking |
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pberq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 06:45 AM Response to Reply #119 |
125. It's convoluted |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
107. MiniMe! You did a stellar job! Thank you!!!!! |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #107 |
111. Seconded. I wouldn't even have known about this |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #107 |
113. And thanks for the help. |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #113 |
120. i know i wasn't on the thread, but i had some other shit going on |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 05:07 AM Response to Reply #113 |
124. You're welcomed MiniMe! So frustrating though. This hearing has been ignored. Not a peep in MSM. |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
121. Bump to the top |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. Kick n/t |
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