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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:57 PM
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Proposed Ban on "Porn" Angers Soldiers
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Proposed Ban on "Porn" Angers Soldiers

Posted by Richard Blair, The All Spin Zone at 3:13 PM on May 7, 2008.

Should congress ban the sale of Playboy and Penthouse at U.S. military installations?



Should congress ban the sale of Playboy and Penthouse at U.S. military installations? Rep. Paul Broun (R-Ga) thinks this is a big enough problem that he needed to introduce legislation to promote a ban on such men’s magazines as “porn”. Soldiers aren’t too happy about it…

Commentary By: Richard Blair

I heard some chatter about this issue not too long ago, but didn’t pay much attention to it at the time. Looks like it’s become a big issue within the military, though:

GRAFENWOHR, Germany — Legislation that would restrict the sale of certain men’s magazines on U.S. military bases around the world would be bad for morale, according to soldiers at Grafenwöhr.

U.S. Rep. Paul Broun, R-Ga., has introduced legislation that would close a loophole in the current law that allows the sale of some sexually explicit material on military bases by lowering the threshold required to deem material “sexually explicit.”

A Department of Defense committee that reviews materials sold on bases ruled last year that magazines such as Playboy and Penthouse are not pornographic. But Broun’s Military Honor and Decency Act includes language that could make those magazines eligible for the ban…

…Broun, a Marine veteran, told Newsweek recently that the magazines sold in military exchanges are partly responsible for a rise in sexual assaults in the military and other problems…


Being a veteran myself, I’m not quite sure where to start on this - but how about - STFU, Rep. Broun. You are part of a congressional coalition that is responsible for supporting the continuing quagmires in Iraq and Afghanistan, and taking the men (and women) away from their families for extended chunks of time. Maybe that has just a little something to do with sexual improprieties among the military? Or perhaps because the Army and Marines have had to lower recruiting standards so low that someone with a felony on their record can now serve?

At the same time, is Broun planning on banning Playgirl and Cosmo? Just asking. Personally don’t consider either Playboy or Penthouse “porn”, and I think it’s a very short trip from banning those two magazines to Maxim and similar mags. Here’s an interesting quote from a soldier:

Pfc. Greg Smith, 21, of Northboro, Mass., a regular Playboy reader, said soldiers should be allowed to buy nudie magazines at the exchange.

“Playboy is good entertainment while you are on the can. They have jokes and good stories,” he said…

“Entertainment”. Hmm, never heard it quite put that way, but no, Pfc. Smith, if you were reading torture porn on the can (which is what the senior leadership in Washington uses), you’d be A-OK with Rep. Broun.

ASZ readers can take it from here.


http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/84733/
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:00 PM
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1. How much you want to bet that
Mr. Broun has some major "issues"? He either has a stash of magazines under is bed or a really little dick.
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:53 AM
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13. I don't want to postulate about his likely creepy fetishes
it's often the Ban Porn for Jayzus ones that are into really sick shit :Scared:
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:04 PM
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2. Of course it's a Republican....
It's bad enough that our men and women are in a fucked up war and this bastard wants to take any source of amusement or pleasure form our soldiars.

Screw the Republicans.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:06 PM
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3. Anyone who has volunteered to get shot at should be able to see some tits.
Edited on Wed May-07-08 08:06 PM by onehandle
Seriously. We produce some of the biggest idiots in Congress here in Georgia.

And they're not limited to Republicans.

Sorry.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:54 AM
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14. Very well said.
:thumbsup:
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:11 PM
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4. The fundamentalist Christian influence throughout our military is getting REALLY bad. n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:13 PM
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5. Yep but ON THE BRIGHT SIDE... shit like this
will stop it... FAST
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:13 PM
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6. The soldiers are dying in an unjust war...
and this dumbass is worrying about soldiers buying porn??? What the fuck is wrong with this asshole?
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:23 PM
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7. Our troops strength is the strength of ten
Since their hearts are pure..


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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:33 PM
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8. Even the "Greatest Generation" had their risque art on their planes






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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:45 PM
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9. The only result
would be some enterprising soldiers would start a black market for this stuff, and you can be sure they'd sell a lot more intense stuff than Playboy! Not that a Republican would care about that. It is the appearance of impropriety that bothers them, not what anyone actually does.
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LucyParsons Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:01 PM
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10. Makes sense that men who volunteer for the imperialist army would defend exploiting women, too
Just my $0.02; I don't think the magazines should be banned. On army bases or anywhere else. I still find them exploitative and insulting, however.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:11 AM
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11. Um, I feel kinda stupid for asking, but...I thought there was already some kind of ban in effect?
Did I just imagine that...help out the clueless civilian, please...?
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:51 AM
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12. fuck Playboy and Penthouse,
might as well get them some REAL porn instead of that overpriced, airbrushed softcore crap :evilgrin:
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:55 AM
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15. Hustler
:evilgrin:
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:47 AM
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16. The invasion of Iraq is what harmed the moral standing of our troops
This guy must be a real clown. Its Germany. Prostitution is legal, and there are strip clubs galore in some areas. Why is this guy worried about MAGAZINES. That's nothing.

I am confused. I thought our troops were all heroes. All courageous and brave, fighting for our freedom. Then why do they need morality legislation from this bozo who apparently never served a day in his life?

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:56 AM
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17. what a crock of shit
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:11 AM
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18. When I am president I will sign an executive order...
it will be called the Congressional Pornography Educational Campaign.

It's a simple and easy-to-understand program: I will, at personal expense defrayed by contributions from dirty old men, buy a subscription to Screw Magazine (arguably the dirtiest magazine published today--it is so bad you can't actually buy a subscription to it for fear of running afoul of the Postal Law, so every week someone's going to have to go to a newsstand in New York City, buy 536 copies of it--one for me too :evilgrin:--and drive it down to Washington in a minivan wrapped in brown kraft paper) for every member of Congress, and they will be required to read it.

After all, if all these Repuke lawmakers want so dearly to ban "porn," they really need to know what porn looks like. I don't think they do.
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