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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:50 PM
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Who was the Manliest president?
Considering Mccain wants to be John Wayne mark 2 ('I don't need secret service! I can take of myself dammit!'), and Hillary's no stranger to tough talk..I thought this would be in interesting topic.

So...


Andrew Jackson was in 13 duels...and killed at least one guy over a woman's honour. Which, regardless of what you think if him, is pretty badass.

JFK slept with Marilyn Monroe.

Bill Clinton slept with everyone...



So, who are the manliest presidents ever?
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BigDaddy44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:51 PM
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1. George Washington
Hands down.
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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:53 PM
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2. I'll give Barack credit for running despite knowing the obvious dangers
Edited on Thu May-08-08 03:53 PM by galaxy21
That's pretty tough.
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BigDaddy44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:55 PM
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4. You might want to let him get elected first
sheeeesh
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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:55 PM
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7. Barrack was president?
Follow the rules of the original message.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:33 PM
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46. he's not eligible
gotta be in the office first. It's a long way to November. sheesh!
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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:37 PM
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51. yes, but I'll give him honourable mention
Along with Mccain...even though I don't like him, he did go through a lot in Vietnam.

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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:55 PM
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8. Yep. I don't think we'd be here without that ultimate badass. nt
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:51 PM
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75. Teddy Roosevelt
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Snarkturian Clone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:52 AM
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95. Washington's Indian name translates to "Town Destroyer" NT
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:58 AM
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97. The translation is unclear. It might mean "Towntaker". Anyway his g-granddad earned the name
The Washington men all inhereted the name Cauntocarius (or something like that) from an early Virginia settler-ancestor who negotiated settlement rights with a particular gusto that today we might call "bullying".
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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:54 PM
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3. How do you define manly?
You seem to think it means violence toward other men, and sleeping around with women who aren't your wife. Kinda low standards of being a man.

I'll go with George Washington -- honest, courageous, war hero, and a man who truly embodied the role of a leader. And he voluntarily stepped down from power, which set a new standard for the peaceful transfer of power.

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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:56 PM
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10. Whatever you think is manly, I suppose.
Edited on Thu May-08-08 04:05 PM by galaxy21
It can be verile (sleeping around) or being a badass (Jackson) or being brave or couragous.

You don't have to take this thread too seriously...
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:03 PM
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20. Does being able to spell correctly count?
verile?

What "threat" do we not need to take too seriously?
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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:55 PM
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5. Jimmy Carter
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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:55 PM
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9. Please be joking
The most manly? Maybe the most Mr. Rogers-ish.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:19 PM
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29. You got a problem with Fred Rogers? (nm)
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 06:15 AM
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87. Thank you.
I always had the utmost respect for Mr. Rogers, myself. I remember an interview with him on teevee once. His responses were all in the Mr.Rogers tone of voice. Cloaked within his persona was a noticeable hatred of intolerance, injustice, and evil.

The interviewer paused and asked, "Does Mr. Rogers ever get angry?"

Without missing a beat, his voice becoming steely and sharp-edged, he replied intensely, "You BET I do!"

Then he revealed his hatred of intolerance, injustice, and evil.
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maui9002 Donating Member (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:43 PM
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56. I realize it's popular to bag on Jimmy Carter
because of economic issues (inflation and interest rates were high during his Presidency), the Iran hostage crisis, gas shortages (my first memory of OPEC sticking it to US consumers), and the invasion of Afghanistan by Russia. On the other hand, in addition to being a graduate of the Naval Academy, a submarine officer, a Korean War vet, a two term U.S. Senator, and Governor of Georgia, President Carter was the architect of the Camp David Accords, which led to peace between Israel and Egypt, won the Nobel Peace Prize, one of only three Presidents to gain that honor, negotiated the SALT II treaty, which was very controversial at the time, was the primary U.S. figure in negotiating and signing the Panama Canal Treaty, a very unpopular move at the time, established the Carter Center to promote human rights around the world, has been a key supporter of Habitat for Humanity, and has been an outspoken and courageous activist for democracy, human rights, and elimination of the death penalty, positions that have made him controversial and unpopular at home with some segments of our population.

I'm NOT saying I'd pick him as the "manliest", whatever that means, but I don't think President Carter gets the respect I think he deserves, and I'd be very proud to have accomplished as much as he has--and he's not done yet.
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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:56 PM
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65. Damn!
:thumbsup:
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:55 PM
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76. US Senate??? Did I take a 12 year nap or something?
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maui9002 Donating Member (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 06:32 AM
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90. My bad. Georgia State Senate, not U.S Senator
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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 06:32 AM
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88. One correction
He was never a US Senator. State senator only. Otherwise, nice response. He had a lot of accomplishments. But manly? LOL

And let's not forget Billy Beer! :)
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:55 PM
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6. Andrew Jackson?
Edited on Thu May-08-08 03:56 PM by Blue_In_AK
He was kind of a rough-and-tough guy, wasn't he?
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:00 PM
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14. nothing is manlier than genocide and ethnic cleansing. He made reins for his horse from indian skin
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:21 PM
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32. Yep...
If that's what McCain has in mind, I think I'll take a pass.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:46 AM
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84. He fought lots of duels and lived through getting shot multiple times.
Though I don't care for a lot of aspects of his presidency, he was pretty badass.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:59 PM
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11. Chester Alan Arthur
Arthur is remembered as one of the most society-conscious presidents, earning the nickname "the Gentleman Boss" for his style of dress and courtly manner.
~
He was sometimes called "Elegant Arthur" for his commitment to fashionable attire and was said to have "looked like a president."

He reportedly kept 80 pairs of pants in his wardrobe and changed pants several times a day. He was called "Chet" by family and friends, and by his middle name, with the stress on the second syllable ("Al-AN").


Er, maybe not....
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:59 PM
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12. Got to go with Abe
the shit he went through with that war and all the asswipes around him... I doubt any of them could have done as well.

Andy J is up there so is T. Jefferson
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:00 PM
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13. Mr. Jackson, Ma'am, as You Noted, Is Far And Away the 'Baddest' Of Our Presidents Ever
And in some ways, for better of worse, the origin of our modern conceptions of democracy here as well....
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:23 PM
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34. Out of curiosity, why do you think he fits the 'manly' archetype so much more than TR? n/t
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:02 PM
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15. Jackson, Washington, T. Roosevelt
imo.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:02 PM
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16. Teddy fits the archetypal definition of the "man's man" pretty well...
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:16 PM
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27. yup, old Teddy was the first one to spring to mind! n/t
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:26 PM
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37. This probably should have been a poll...
would have been interesting to see the numbers.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:42 PM
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54. "Giv asissy a gun and he will shoot everything in sight" Gore Vidal on T. Roosevelt
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:52 PM
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Here's a link to Gore Vidal's piece on TR for the curious...
Interesting article, but then again Gore Vidal always seems to have something of interest to say...

http://www.randomhouse.com/boldtype/0501/vidal/essay_us.html

Give a sissy a gun and he will kill everything in sight. TR's slaughter of the animals in the Badlands outdoes in spades the butcheries of that sissy of a later era, Ernest Hemingway. Elks, grizzly bears, blacktail bucks are killed joyously while a bear cub is shot, TR reports proudly, "clean through . . . from end to end" (the Teddy bear was yet to be invented). "By Godfrey, but this is fun!" TR was still very much the prig, at least in speech: "He immortalized himself along the Little Missouri by calling to one of his cowboys, 'Hasten forward quickly here!'" Years later he wrote: "There were all kinds of things of which I was afraid at first, ranging from grizzly bears to 'mean' horses and gunfighters; but by acting as if I was not afraid I gradually ceased to be afraid."

There is something strangely infantile in this obsession with dice-loaded physical courage when the only courage that matters in political or even "real" life is moral. Although TR was often reckless and always domineering in politics, he never showed much real courage, and despite some trust-busting, he never took on the great ring of corruption that ruled and rules in this republic. But then, he was born a part of it. At best, he was just a dude with the reform play. Fortunately, foreign affairs would bring him glory. As Lincoln was the Bismarck of the American states, Theodore Roosevelt was the Kaiser Wilhelm II, a more fortunate and intelligent figure than the Kaiser but every bit as bellicose and conceited. Edith Wharton described with what pride TR showed her a photograph of himself and the Kaiser with the Kaiser's inscription: "President Roosevelt shows the Emperor of Germany how to command an attack."

...

Now that war is once more thinkable among the thoughtless, Theodore Roosevelt should enjoy a revival. Certainly, the New Right will find his jingoism appealing, though his trust-busting will give less pleasure to the Honorable Society of the Invisible Hand. The figure that emerges from the texts of both Mr. McCullough and Mr. Morris is both fascinating and repellent. Theodore Roosevelt was a classic American sissy who overcame--or appeared to overcome--his physical fragility through "manly" activities of which the most exciting and ennobling was war.

As a politician-writer, Theodore Roosevelt most closely resembles Winston Churchill and Benito Mussolini. Each was as much a journalist as a politician. Each was a sissy turned showoff. The not unwitty Churchill--the most engaging of the lot--once confessed that if no one had been watching him he could quite easily have run away during a skirmish in the Boer War. Each was a romantic, in love with the nineteenth-century notion of earthly glory, best personified by Napoleon Bonaparte, whose eagerness to do in his biological superiors led to such a slaughter of alpha-males that the average French soldier of 1914 was markedly shorter than the soldier of 1800--pretty good going for a fat little fellow, five foot four inches tall--with, to be fair, no history of asthma.


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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:02 PM
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17. If you're talking about surface machismo, there have been many
but if I had to pick just one, it would be Teddy Roosevelt.

That doesn't mean I particularly approve of his take on convincing the world how manly he was, it just means I recognize the effort.
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NoGOPZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:02 PM
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18. I prefer things easier to answer
Such as, "What was the dumbest question you ever saw on DU?"
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:04 PM
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21. Way. eom
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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:06 PM
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23. if you don't like the thread, why bother posting?
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Retrograde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:33 PM
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45. That's easy????
But there are so many to choose from! :)
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:03 PM
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19. shame Ben Franklin was never president
he was a pimp.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:34 PM
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47. lol too true. You can see the mischief in his eyes on the damn C-note.
The only bill with any personality.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:44 PM
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57. When did "pimp" become a compliment? (nm)
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:02 AM
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99. About twelve years ago. Where were you?
Probably reading a book or doing something girlish like that.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:20 AM
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101. Yeah, me and my uterus
didn't notice the fall of civilization while I was reading James Joyce or something.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:05 PM
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22. TR was pretty damn manly
Singlehandedly digging the Panama Canal, fighting off the Spanish Army, and decimating the megafauna of Africa... hard to argue with that.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:09 PM
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24. If you define "manly" as killing or fucking anyone/anything...
I don't think we are going to get along very well.
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rch35 Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:28 PM
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38. What compels you to take everything so fucking seriously?
Don't you ever laugh at a joke thats not all fuckin politically correct? At all?
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:12 PM
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25. I'm sure Theodore Roosevelt would have said HE was...
for my tastes, though, the "manliest" president was Franklin D. Roosevelt (courageous, resolute, inspiring, effective, etc.)
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:15 PM
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26. If you define manly as having physical courage, I agree with Andrew Jackson, I would also add
Edited on Thu May-08-08 04:18 PM by Uncle Joe
Theodore Roosevelt, he campaigned against trusts and monopolies after being shot becoming the first environmental President.

If you define manly as having moral courage, I would say Abraham Lincoln or Jimmy Carter.

If you define manly as having emotional courage I would say Franklin Roosevelt or (the buck stops here) Harry Truman.

If you define manly as having vision and intelligence, I would say Thomas Jefferson.

If you define manly as having vision, intelligence with a commitment to democracy, the rule of law and the people, regardless of the temptations of personal power, I would say *Al Gore.


*I believe he was elected President and Bush was appointed.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:18 PM
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28. Faux "Manliest":
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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:21 PM
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31. He 's probably the worst of it..Reagan and Bush 41 were full of it too
But at least they actually served during wartime.
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lanlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:39 AM
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92. Reagan served in wartime?
In WWII he never left the Hollywood lot. He watched as braver fellow actors such as Clark Gable went off to war.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:43 AM
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93. yeah, but at least reagan was probably in a few war movies
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:29 PM
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40. Yes, Chimpy is so manly
He had to stoically endure the torture of a rough woolen sock stuffed into that codpiece.
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:19 PM
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30. It takes more than a bullet to stop a bull moose (TR).
While campaigning in Milwaukee a few weeks before the election, Roosevelt was shot point-blank in the chest by a deranged assailant. (John Schrank, a German immigrant bartender, claimed that the ghost of McKinley came to him in a dream and told him to avenge McKinley's assassination by killing TR.) Roosevelt survived the assassination attempt thanks to a combination of good luck (the bullet passed through his coat, metal glasses case and folded speech) and a strong constitution. Exclaiming, "It takes more than a bullet to stop a bull moose" (thus, the Bull Moose Party), he went on to speak for over an hour, with a blood-soaked shirt, before being rushed to a hospital.

from http://www.vw.vccs.edu/vwhansd/his122/Teddy/TR_Lion.html
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:22 PM
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33. "Speak softly, and carry a big stick"
Edited on Thu May-08-08 04:27 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
When I think of testosterone I think of Teddy R. galloping up San Juan Hill, with his Rough Riders (ooohhh more manly). He also loved killing poor animals. And don't manly men say "Bully" a lot???

BTW..I remember visiting his home Sagamore Hill in Oyster Bay, LI, and when you first walk in, there is the living room, and it is filled with wall to wall death. A taxidermist's paradise.
:puke:

I made mention of that when I signed the guest book

BTW.. my type of manly is Thomas Jefferson, except that he didn't have the cojones to free his slaves in his lifetime.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:26 PM
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35. FDR and he couldn't get out of a wheelchair
but he could stand up for the the poor, the sick and the dispossessed. Not tough talk, tough action.

That's a real man in my book - and I'm tough enough to kick the shit out of almost everyone on DU.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:26 PM
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36. John Adams
Edited on Thu May-08-08 04:29 PM by melody
The man was Vice President then President and a father of five kids at the same time. In the words of Roseanne,
"let's see the sky-diving wimps handle THAT one".
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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:30 PM
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41. Most of the earlier presidents were genuine tough guys
They would be willing to kill a man with their bare hands (and probably did).

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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:32 PM
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43. None of the earlier Presidents were "genuine tough guys"
Are you joking? George Washington was a soldier but John Adams was a lawyer and farmer. He wasn't a "tough guy".
Thomas Jefferson was about as "tough" as your average modern New York stockbroker. They were brilliant men -- not
"tough guys" though.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 05:00 PM
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67. Jefferson could rip a phone book in half with his bare hands!
How else do you explain the fact that there are none of his phone books in the Library of Congress?
:)
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 05:02 PM
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68. Hey, very true! I hadn't considered that.
I hear he had a lifetime subscription to Leatherman Magazine, too. Things that make a patriot go hmmmmmm
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:54 PM
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64. rofl!!! John Adams was a softy and so was Thomas Jefferson. George Washington was
Edited on Thu May-08-08 04:54 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
a soldier but I don't think he had an ounce of brute in him. James Madison was a legal scholar and James Monroe a lawyer. John Quincy Adams was not quite his father's son, but a softy too. These men were all "gentlemen"

Andy Jackson was probably the first of the "tough" guys.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:33 PM
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72. I think it's sad what we're determining to be "manly"
I think if you raise a bunch of kids AND serve as President, that is some kind of heroic feat of absolute maleness.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:13 AM
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83. I agree, please see my post 33.
:hi:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:29 PM
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39. Teddy
Grant
Ike
Washington

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:30 PM
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42. Just look at this stud muffin!!
:)

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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:33 PM
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44. Anyone going by the name Grover is suspect regarding manliness.
;-)
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:41 PM
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53. aw come on
he's just dripping in studliness

:rofl:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:44 PM
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58. One thing that can be said for him in spite of being named after a Muppet,
Edited on Thu May-08-08 04:45 PM by Uncle Joe
he came back after losing an election as a sitting President and won another term. :)
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:35 PM
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48. That's HOT...
:rofl:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:40 PM
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52. ROFL!!!
:hi:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:48 PM
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60. Is he really that broad,
or is it just my wide-screen monitor? Looking like that, he could NEVER get elected these days. Remember how people were speculating whether or not Al Gore would run again, based on his weight? We are such superficial people.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:52 PM
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62. ditto for FDR
Your'e right of course - remember that stupid "who would you rather have a beer with" meme?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:28 AM
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85. Speaking of hot
. . . while in the White House, approximately 50 years old, he married at 21-year-old.


Image: President Profiles

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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:36 PM
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49. Were you hanging out in a bar...
...in Philadelphia last Friday? I heard a conversation like this almost word for word between two guys at my usual watering hole. I don't think they came up with one but they decided that had Goldwater won, he would have been the manliest president.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:45 PM
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74. Was this a leather bar?
Edited on Thu May-08-08 11:58 PM by kenny blankenship
I'm just trying to imagine a social setting where a politician who prided himself on being the most ready to start nuclear war--in other words the biggest craziest sadist of all rightwingers of his day--would be ranked as most manly.
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:36 PM
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50. Teddy Fucking Roosevelt
N/T
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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:43 PM
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55. Doesn't JFK get any credit for being a war hero and banging Marilyn Monroe?
Edited on Thu May-08-08 04:45 PM by galaxy21
He was like James Bond or something.
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:52 PM
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63. When 3 men stole Teddy's boat...
He hunted them down, captured them single-handedly, and then took forty hours to haul them out of the wilderness to bring them to justice.

Regarding shagging Marilyn; being a womanizer doesn't make you a man.
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:55 AM
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82. JFK didn't hunt men down, he saved men. Humble and a hero. What a man.
. . . the men abandoned the remains of PT-109 and struck out for an islet, three and a half miles away, that they hoped was unoccupied.

Kennedy had been on the swim team at Harvard; even towing McMahon by a belt through his teeth, he was undaunted by the distance. Several of the other men were also good swimmers, but several were not; two, Johnston and Mauer, could not swim at all. These last two were lashed to a plank that the other seven men pulled and pushed as they could. Kennedy arrived first at the island, named Plum Pudding but called by the men "Bird" Island because of the guano that coated the bushes. So spent that he had to be helped up the beach by the man he had towed, Kennedy collapsed and waited for the rest of the crew.
But Kennedy's swimming was not over. Alarmed by a Japanese barge that passed close by, Kennedy determined to swim down into Ferguson Passage, through which the American PTs passed when they were operating in Blackett Strait. Island-hopping and clinging to reefs, Kennedy made his way out into the passage, where he treaded water for an hour before deciding that the PTs were in action elsewhere that night. The return voyage nearly killed him as strong currents spun him out into Blackett Strait and then back into Ferguson Passage. . .

http://www.jfklibrary.org/Historical+Resources/JFK+in+History/John+F.+Kennedy+and+PT109.htm
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:46 PM
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59. George Herbert Walker Bush...he personally killed two men
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:00 AM
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78. only two?
which two are you referring to?
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:50 AM
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80. That'd be the 2 unlucky bastards who flew as his crew in his Avenger
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:53 AM
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81. the ones he had to climb past to get to the door?
i was thinking more along the lines of during his cia days decades.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:51 PM
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61. Well, yeah, I guess being a murderer is pretty badass
but I'm not sure exactly why he should be lauded for the act.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:57 PM
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66. Lincoln for physical, intellectual, and moral strength
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 05:37 PM
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69. Quien es mas macho?
Senor Lorenzo Lamas or Senor Ricardo Maltalban? :evilgrin:
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 05:44 PM
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70. Teddy Roosevelt.
from one perspective of manliness
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 05:49 PM
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71. FDR by far
What are you folks thinking? :eyes:

He went against his own personal interests and turned this country from bust to flush, defeated facism, instituted more progressive reforms than any pres before or since, overcame polio, etc etc etc.

Seriously. FDR was a fargin STUD!
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:44 PM
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73. you mean who is the SLUTTIEST President ?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:58 PM
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77. how about Ulysses Grant?
just askin...:shrug:
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:43 AM
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79. Manliest. You wanna know which president was "manliest"
Holy fucking cow, DU really needs a forehead slap emote.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:47 AM
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94. Here you go:
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:35 AM
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86. Hillary
:evilgrin:
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 06:32 AM
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89. Your mother.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:25 AM
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91. Certainly George W. Bush loved men the most.
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Snarkturian Clone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:53 AM
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96. Five Most Badass Presidents
Edited on Fri May-09-08 07:57 AM by Snarkturian Clone
http://www.cracked.com/article_15895_5-most-badass-presidents-all-time.html

Theodore Roosevelt wins:

While campaigning for a third term, Roosevelt was shot by a madman and, instead of treating the wound, delivered his campaign speech with the bleeding, undressed bullet hole in his chest. On the other end of the spectrum, reasons why certain members of the Cracked Editorial Staff have called out of work over the last year include:

"A cold."
"A stubbed toe."
"It's raining."
"There's a spider near the door."

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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:01 AM
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98. Gotta go with my T.J.
To me, intelligence is much sexier than macho bravado. And I love his red hair. ;)
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mochajava666 Donating Member (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:28 AM
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100. Walk (or speak) softly with more than just a codpiece
Teddy Roosevelt for walking softly while carrying an impressively large phallic symbol. He was a Rough Rider that killed animals (with big guns, no doubt) just to watch them die. On second thought, was this overcompensating?

Otherwise, JFK for PT 109, and being willing to have a nuclear exchange over a pissing match in Cuba.



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