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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:36 PM
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The idea of Clinton being selected for Senate majority leader is
being floated. What do you think the reaction in the Senate would be? Has she burned her bridges? Is Reid that disliked that this would be an option? Would she be effective in your opinion?
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:37 PM
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1. Leahy.
He's so cool. Just my opinion, of course.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:37 PM
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2. After the IWR and Kyl-Lieberman?
Fuck, why not just ask Denny Hastert to come back!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:39 PM
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3. I'd like Dodd or Durbin for that role.
Hillary Cilnton is way down on the list of options there for me.


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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:04 AM
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29. with barack being from illinois- would durbin even have a shot?
personally, i'd like to see what feingold could do.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:08 AM
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31. Love Feingold. For just about anything. Attorney General? Supreme
Court appointment?

He's just a hell of a good man.
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:11 AM
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33. Durbin, Dodd, Feingold, Boxer, would all be great.
Durbin is senior out of all of those in leadership now isn't he?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:41 AM
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36. Hi, nealmhughes... Not sure I'll have to do a bit of googling.
Edited on Fri May-09-08 12:41 AM by Old Crusoe
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:57 AM
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39. Ok. I snooped around a bit on the Senate site and it looks as if
Durbin's post outranks the others, as it is a crucial leadership post, although Dodd has served in the Senate longer than anyone in that group.

Durbin was first elected in 96 to the Senate, Boxer in 93. Dodd is a 5-term Senator.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:20 AM
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46. Boxer would be great, if she accepted.
Dodd would be good too.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:40 PM
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4. I would have been more open to it a few months ago.
She has proven to be someone who only considers herself, is the opposite of a team player, has no problem saying and doing anything to get her way, and is a little delusional. That doesn't sound like leadership material to me.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:40 PM
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5. If she's not on the ticket as VP, then it'll be this, IMO...
I would bet we're seeing a lot of negotiating over her taking one of these two jobs.

She'd be very effective, IMO. Repukes would cry and say she's mean.

I remember when Frist almost cried. :rofl:
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:50 PM
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17. Never
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 08:00 PM
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22. Never what?
:shrug:
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:16 AM
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42. I cannot stand the thought of her being VP. nt
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:25 AM
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47. I don't know if she would even want it.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:41 PM
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6. Boxer or Feingold would be better, imho.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:48 PM
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12. Either would be excellent to me
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:49 PM
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16. Oh yeah!
Either one of them would be a great choice! :thumbsup:
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:25 AM
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44. Although I lean closer to Barbara Boxer
because I know her better, I'd be ecstatic about Feingold too!
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DB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:43 PM
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7. A month ago I would have said hell yes she'd be effective, now not so much...
A month from now if she is still fighting I'd say hell no, she loses influence and clout with each passing day.
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Hidey Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:45 PM
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8. I don't think it would be well received.
Hillary supporters aren't likely to be appeased.

Others may argue that all you have to do to be Senate Majority Leader is allow personal ambition to risk the party's chances in November, then they'll buy you off.

In the end, I don't know that it would please anyone.

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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:46 PM
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9. I think if she bows out gracefully now, throws herself behind Obama
127%, campaigns for him and for other Democrats, she'll be able to build power in a way that could be very effective for the party. We DO need someone tough and tenacious in that position in the Senate, and I could see her being a formidable Majority Leader.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:47 PM
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10. Supreme Court Justice
She has no chance to be Senate Majority Leader.

Once Obama is elected, John Paul Stevens at the very least will retire. Hillary Clinton would be a perfectly reasonable choice for the Supreme Court.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:53 PM
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18. She leans a little too much to the right...I want progressives in key
positions...and you would never get her through congress..repugs would never let it happen..
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 08:39 PM
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24. You know, that's a spot I feel more trusting of her in...
maybe because when she's really looking forward, and knows there are no more political races in her future, she might do the right thing?
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:51 AM
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38. Can we agree that Reid has got to go??
Harry you're a nice guy. I don't want a nice guy. I don't want a conciliator. I want someone who will stand up to power and let them know how WE are going to do it now. You've shown that you aren't that person.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:14 AM
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45. Yup, absolutely.
I'm tired of making nice-nice. I want a real scrapper in there, too.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:47 PM
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11. A month ago, maybe. Now, too late
She has written her ending and it ain't the first woman president she has imagined all her life.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:48 PM
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13. Senator, you can have my answer now if you like.
My offer is this... nothing.
Not even the fee for the gaming license,
which I would appreciate if you would put up personally.

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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:48 PM
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14. No I think she is doing fine as a senator in New York..
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:49 PM
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15. Durbin sounds good.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:07 AM
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30. feingold sounds even better.
if barack is potus, would the other illinois senator even be considered for majority leader?

or would people see it as giving to much say to one state?- like when the cheney misadministration took their first media-approved shit on the constitution by both being from texas.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:56 PM
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19. This doesn't make sense to me.
If 47% of DEMOCRATS don't think she is trustworthy, and she uses divisive labels like how she appeals to "white voters", why in the name of all that's Holy would Democrats want her in any leadership position?
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:57 PM
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20. No.
She's just into her second term...someone with more seniority deserves it like Biden or Dodd. Leahy would be a good pick too.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:57 PM
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21. I'm always willing to give someone a second chance
Edited on Thu May-08-08 07:58 PM by aint_no_life_nowhere
I think Hillary Clinton is a very intelligent and effective politician. She could be a very powerful Senate majority leader. However, some of her positions on international matters including her opposition to limit cluster bombs, her opposition to limit the international use of land mines, her vote with Lieberman to brand the Iranian Republican Guard as a terrorist organization, her open criticism of the UN, her vote on the IWR have really made me shake my head. I think all politicians base many of their decisions depending on which way the wind blows. If she loses the Democratic nomination and another Democrat (i.e. Obama) is elected President, it may inspire Hillary Clinton to become a bit less hawkish, but that's an unknown to me. I'd be willing to give her a chance to prove her liberal leanings on international affairs. She is pretty liberal regarding domestic affairs and I think her leadership could be important in pushing through the types of Supreme Court appointments that we will need.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 08:38 PM
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23. I'd like to see Reid go, but I'm not sure I trust her to do any better
She's totally *capable* of doing it, but after IWR and Kyle-Lieberman, I don't trust her.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 08:40 PM
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25. Reward her just so she'll stop ripping apart the party? No thank you....Dodd deserves it.
I raised three boys. I never gave them treats to stop a temper tantrum. As a result, no temper tantrums. Any mom would tell you that Hillary should not be rewarded for her childish behavior. She's done nothing to deserve special treatment.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:08 PM
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27. I like your analogy. Thanks. nt
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 08:41 PM
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26. She is not liked enough to get the vote.
After the primaries she burned a lot of bridges now.

Give me Dodd, I'd go for that.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:56 PM
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28. I seriously doubt the senate Democrats will make her Majority leader
there's simply no reason to believe they would trust her to be their leader
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:08 AM
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32. feingold.
'nuf said.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:16 AM
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34. Moyers is on Charlie Rose tonight; he thinks that would be an excellent
position for her. Maybe I'm refusing to see the bigger picture. :shrug:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:07 AM
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41. After her latest statement
she will be lucky to hold on to her senate seat, she has no clout, folks will distance themselves from her.

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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:36 AM
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35. Her bridges are very well burned. -nt
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:46 AM
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37. When we get a solid majority and a Dem President I want a strong SML...
Feingold would be great but I'd like to rub it in a little to the NeoCon's and see Barbara Boxer as the Majority Leader. She's the Senator I wish I had. Tough, strong Progressive principles and the Repugs hate her.

How can ya beat that?
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:58 AM
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40. The leading Democratic senators seem to have voiced their support for Obama.
I like both Obama and Clinton, but I doubt that Clinton will be chosen by her peers as their leader at this point. Maybe in the future after the bruises she is getting in this primary season have healed.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:19 AM
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43. Very effective: at rounding up votes for corporate-friendly, anti-consumer, anti-union legislation
She might also be effective at sticking it to Obama in retaliation for her loss.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:29 AM
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48. If he wasnt as old as the West Virginia hills he hails from
I would think the Senator Byrd would make an excellent Majority leader.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:50 AM
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49. She's making any of that difficult, and she's doing it to herself.
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