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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:08 AM
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As Attorney General, who would do the best job prosecuting Bushco crimes?
John Edwards?
Henry Waxman?
John Conyers?
Maxine Waters?
Ralph Nader?

Other?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:08 AM
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1. Mike Papantonio.....
n/t
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:12 AM
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4. Oh, or how about another Robert Kennedy A.G.?
Thanks for the nomination idea, marmar.
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:43 AM
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16. Hillary Clinton. And you just might see her in that position.
You read it here first.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:07 AM
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27. Sorry, she doesn't have the legal chops.
Her strengths are with women, children and education. She can have Education, or Health & Human Services. Or just stay on as the senator from NY - if her constituents still want her.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:20 AM
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31. She worked on the Nixon impeachment.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:54 AM
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43. Which makes one nice line on her resume.
That was 35 years ago when she was a kid fresh out of school. Valuable experience, but hardly qualifying experience.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:10 PM
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52. Where did I read that she had real problems while
working on that cae?

I can't remember, but she would not be good.

I say none of the above...
As much as I hate to say it ~ Conyers and Waters have sold out
Nader -LOL
HC LOL
Edwards - way too nice


I suggest trying them at the Hague.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:50 PM
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47. I want a true Progressive as AG, Senate Majority Leader, Sec of State
when we take control of the White House and Congress this fall. I'm sorry but Hillary is not a true Progressive.

IMHO Senator Clinton should go back to being the Senator from New York.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:46 PM
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45. I never thought of Pap but he'd be great...
His Progressive chops are unquestioned, he's a top tier litigator and he likes a good fight. Very good choice.

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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:11 AM
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2. Me
I would do a really good job.

Where are those electric bleachers?


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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:11 AM
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3. what are the odds bushco will be prosecuted for anything, 0%, or less than zero? nt
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:13 AM
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5. John Edwards.............
But I think Maxine Waters could tear them a new one, too!
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:14 AM
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6. Who has the appropriate experience to do the job, in its entirety?
Edited on Fri May-09-08 09:14 AM by L. Coyote
This is not a valid criteria for job selection.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:17 AM
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8. Anyone who could get that job done,
would find the rest of the A.G. job trivially easy. Besides, prosecuting Bushco is a top priority to stem this catastrophic political crime wave.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:14 AM
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7. I'm kind of leaning toward Waxman from your list.
He's a bulldog and has been the most ballsy, IMO.
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:27 AM
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10. No way.
As long as he is where he is as chair; he is much to vital to the legislative process. Who is to say the legislature is not an equal branch of government. I thought we learned that while Bush had a Republican Congress to work with.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:30 AM
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11. As AG, he might be able to accomplish what
he hasn't been able to in his current position -- e.g. prosecuting Bushco.

I think his constituents would vote in another firebrand to take his place.


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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:34 AM
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12. Waxman's experience is something not to be replaced immediately
As chair he need stay where he is. He is not only a champion of fighting Bush's illegal actions but protecting consumers, our health, business practices of Wall Street. His chairmanship , along with a decent Democratic House majority is almost as powerful as the Attorney General's position.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:50 AM
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20. You present a good argument -- nt
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:19 AM
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32. WHY IS It so important to be in the Cabinet
Edited on Fri May-09-08 11:20 AM by cyclezealot
Its like a dam booby prize. Just being in the Cabinet is no big deal. Its a sign of a looser. / you are freer to do your own thing as a Congress member; as long as you are in the majority. With a significant Majority. Waxman can do lots with his power to subpoena. Often as a Cabinet Member you are told what to do and shut up.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:47 AM
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40. That's been my feeling
about Biden being mentioned for SOS or even VP -- that he then becomes a voice for the administration. I'd rather him have the relative freedom of being Senator and the Chairman of the SFRC.

I'm just HUNGRY for an AG that will go after these criminals and pummel them. No more Mukasey crap.

Who would you like to see as AG?
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:56 PM
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48. Sometime a politician is not the best choice
The DOJ requires competence, independence. Politicians don't always meet that challenge. Democrats have lots of academics from which to choose. I'd look there. Repukes often make the Attorney General the president's lawyer chosen from some corporate board room. Bill Clinton did not choose that option with Janet Reno, to the Democrats credit.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:52 AM
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21. His Sibel Edmonds stance makes me question his integrity
Edited on Fri May-09-08 09:54 AM by Juche
If he won't address Sibel Edmonds then he probably isn't going to go in depth enough about all the crimes Bush is accused of doing or allowing.

If Cynthia McKinney had a law degree she'd make a great AG.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:02 AM
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24. Tell me more - I don't know Waxman's Sibel Edmonds stance
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:31 AM
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36. Its a long story
Edited on Fri May-09-08 11:33 AM by Juche
Here is the short version.

Sibel Edmonds was hired as an FBI translator after 9/11 and given high security clearance. During her period of translating documents she came across info that there were Israeli & Turkish spies stealing nuclear secrets and that people in the state department were helping to steal and sell nuclear secrets. She also accuses Dennis Hastert of taking bribes from Turkish operatives, that an FBI informant informed the FBI about a risk of 9/11 occuring months before it happened and it wasn't followed up and that her coworkers were Turkish spies working with a Turkish lobbying group. She probably found out alot of other stuff too but can't talk about it.

She was fired for mentioning this issue, and has been put under a gag order from Ashcroft not to talk about it. Before the 2006 dem takeover she had told several house and senate members her testimony behind closed doors. Waxman said that after hte dems take over in 2006 he'll let her talk publically about the crimes and corruption going on that she discovered. Instead Waxman refuses to hold hearings even though he is the char of the oversight and government reform committee.

Waxman knows something very corrupt and criminal is happening but won't address it for reasons I don't understand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Edmonds

I am also loathe to make Conyers the AG for the same reason. He won't impeach Bush because he fears a political blowback. Law and order should be beyond politics. I don't think either Conyers or Waxman believes that though.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:34 AM
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37. I knew the Edmonds outline, but not Waxman's role.
Your post highlights the point that the AG must be fearless, a person of total moral courage. These are rare qualities indeed.
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:25 AM
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9. If only he were less horny
Edited on Fri May-09-08 09:25 AM by cyclezealot
Eliot Spitzer. He did great work as the Atty. General of NY.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:39 AM
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15. Generally yes, but wasted too much time on hookers,
both prosecuting them and hiring them.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:10 AM
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29. Which would make him a perfect fit in regards to the current
administration.
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:00 PM
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49. Hookers, yes.
But had Spitzer kept to his real other purpose in pursueing Wall Street crooks as his other fortee, we'd all be much healty financially. At least Spitzer would not have covered up Miss Liberties boobs.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:37 AM
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13. Patrick Fitzgerald. nt
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:38 AM
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14. Great one!
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:12 PM
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53. Yup- that'd be my choice as well. nm
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:46 PM
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59. Definitely Patrick Fitzgerald.
I second (or third, or fourth) that one!
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jean627 Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:48 AM
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17. John Kerry...
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:49 AM
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18. Yeah - I'd be happy with him, too. (Like we have any input :-) nt
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:53 AM
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22. Five years ago, I'd have agreed.
But I saw him cave to Bushco within hours of a stolen election. He doesn't have the 'nads for the job.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:31 PM
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58. I've always suspected that he saw how heavily it was rigged against
him and he knew there was no way he could expose the fraud in a time frame which would allow him to claim victory.

You have noticed, however, that across the country, in state after state, dems have been shutting down touch-screen voting, cleaning up election boards that were 'cooperative' with the administration. I'm thinking, and hoping, that Kerry (among others) has been working hard to keep 04 and 06 from happening in 08.

I do think he should have let Edwards go on a tear about it - keeping himself above the fray. But what's done is done. He's still one of the most intelligent senators and best lawyers on the Hill.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:07 AM
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28. We need Kerry in the Senate
And we need Biden there, too. Love your avatar.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:24 AM
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33. He'd be my choice.
He knows where the BCCI bodies are buried and I'd think he'd know how to get these bastards to be held accountable. Too bad Bill Clinton didn't support him when they had the opportunity to drive a stake in the BFEE heart back in the early 90s.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:13 PM
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54. Mine, too...
...if not President, VP, SOS or Sec. of Defense. He could do any of those jobs...or be a great Senator. :7
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:50 AM
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19. Russ Feingold would make a great AG.
:applause:

Or VP for that matter.

:applause: :applause: :applause:
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:53 AM
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23. Another good choice.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:14 AM
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30. Leave good senators in the senate. President Obama will need them on the Hill
Look for talent from other places. There is PLENTY out there.

My first choice would be Edwards. He has shown he will go after big, powerful machines and fight on the People's behalf. Let him restore law and order to America!
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:00 PM
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50. Yep. Leave Feingold where he can do the most good...
We need all the good Senators we can get.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:03 AM
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25. Fitzgerald.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:27 AM
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34. Please. The three-year distraction of "Fitzmas" was not enough bullshit for you?
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:43 AM
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39. Did he not get his man with the goalposts and obstructions being thrown in his way daily?
He did a bang-up job imho and would be a friggin' bulldog given the power of his position if he were AG...
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:06 AM
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26. Edwards
We need Waxman, Conyers, and Waters in the House. Nader would make it all about Nader somehow.

Actually, Jonathan Turley might be good.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:27 AM
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35. Kucinich
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:39 AM
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38. How about Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.?
Edited on Fri May-09-08 11:39 AM by aint_no_life_nowhere
He's had a strong track record of prosecuting cases on behalf of environmental causes, for which he won Time Magazine's "Hero Of The Planet" award. I think it would be interesting to have him follow in his father's footsteps.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:50 AM
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42. Yes!
Fantastic choice.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:49 AM
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41. It has to be someone who was not fooled by BushCo. n/t
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Mike K Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:13 PM
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44. I nominate
John Comey.

He is the Asst. A/G who resigned rather than go along with Gonzales' attempt to coerce Ashcroft into signing off on a BushCo maneuver. I regard this as evidence of his ethics.

He knows where many bodies are buried and he has cause to be vindictive, which is the best fuel for the kind of heat needed to sterilize the Justice Department. I want to see that sneering, lubricious little bastard, Gonzales, in an orange jump suit.

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:48 PM
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46. Senator Sheldon Whitehouse.. . n/t
Edited on Fri May-09-08 01:48 PM by annabanana
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:03 PM
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51. You want to nominate all these
excellent politic ans. Whithouse being one with impeccable credentials. One consideration does the governor of that state have a Republican governor , who would replace a Democratic senator. Rhode Island does.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:21 PM
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56. My choice too,
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:18 PM
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55. Melanie Sloan from C.R.E.W. Definitely Melanie. n/t
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singilarpoint Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:42 PM
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57. Other
William J Clinton........Could you only imagine!!!?
Vengeance is a dish best served cold.......
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