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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:07 PM
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Air Force Aims for 'Full Control' of 'Any and All' Computers (wired.com)
The Air Force wants a suite of hacker tools, to give it "access" to -- and "full control" of -- any kind of computer there is. And once the info warriors are in, the Air Force wants them to keep tabs on their "adversaries' information infrastructure completely undetected."

The government is growing increasingly interested in waging war online. The Air Force recently put together a "Cyberspace Command," with a charter to rule networks the way its fighter jets rule the skies. The Department of Homeland Security, Darpa, and other agencies are teaming up for a five-year, $30 billion "national cybersecurity initiative." That includes an electronic test range, where federally-funded hackers can test out the latest electronic attacks. "You used to need an army to wage a war," a recent Air Force commercial notes. "Now, all you need is an Internet connection."

On Monday, the Air Force Research Laboratory introduced a two-year, $11 million effort to put together hardware and software tools for "Dominant Cyber Offensive Engagement." "Of interest are any and all techniques to enable user and/or root level access," a request for proposals notes, "to both fixed (PC) or mobile computing platforms... any and all operating systems, patch levels, applications and hardware." This isn't just some computer science study, mind you; "research efforts under this program are expected to result in complete functional capabilities."

Unlike an Air Force colonel's proposal, to knock down enemy websites with military botnets, the Research Lab is encouraging a sneaky, "low and slow" approach. The preferred attack consists of lying quiet, and then "stealthily exfiltrat information" from adversaries' networks.

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/05/air-force-mater.html
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:14 PM
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1. Swell, the branch of the military with a bunch of fundies among top brass
wants to fund hackers to take over the net.

Carrier pigeons. I mean it. Learn to raise carrier pigeons. The Air Force brass is too fucking infiltrated by wanna-bees from Dr Strangelove. We need back up communication.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:44 PM
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6. If they consider anti-war advocates "adversaries"...

(or anyone who speaks out criticizing the government) then it has become clear that the military-industrial complex has gotten out of control and fascism is rearing its ugly head in the form of the Air Force. Imagine what Hitler and his SS would have done with control of the internet.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:26 PM
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2. Is there anybody left in our military's leadership who...
... exhibits, through word or deed, some indication of sanity? Just wondering.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:33 PM
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3. they will just outsource it to civilian control who will outsource it to India
or China and viola...US American will be in full control of the entire world.......................NOT!
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:51 PM
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4. "Full Control" presumes 'Full Responsibility'
Edited on Wed May-14-08 01:53 PM by SimpleTrend
Why do I get the feeling they want full control without full financial responsibility?

Does this mean that when my software/hardware goes down, and it needs replacement and or repair, I can bill the Air Force and expect payment?
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:25 PM
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5. SECAF: Dominance in cyberspace is not optional
Edited on Wed May-14-08 03:26 PM by Canuckistanian
by Tech. Sgt. A.J. Bosker
55th Wing Public Affairs

6/1/2007 - OFFUTT AIR FORCE BASE, Neb. (AFPNS) -- The Air Force's senior leader's message was clear: dominance in cyberspace is not optional. He made that case to attendees May 23 at the inaugural 55th Wing Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance Symposium in Omaha.

"Our own nation's neural network resides in cyberspace," Secretary of the Air Force Michael W. Wynne said. "Our military command and control, ISR and precision strike capability all rely on ensured access to the electronic spectrum.

~snip

"It is your Air Force harnessing and delivering that information to the right people," the secretary said. "Today, we dominate air and space. In the future, it will be vital that we also dominate cyberspace."


http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123055625

Yeesh. Megalomania, anyone?
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:58 PM
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7. Why does the Air Force get to control the Nets?
It's not like they can fly planes through the series of tubes, is it? This is just a diversion. The NSA has been developing a computer system capable of hacking into any computer on the net. It's the worst largest, and most secret, supercomputer. When you hear about IBM or Intel creating the new "World's most powerful Supercomputer", multiply that by about 100 and then you can start to imagine the power of the NSA computers. They have a huge server farm that some estimates have put at 2 football fields wide, and 100 feet tall. They are making brute force feasible, not to mention the sweet pipeline of the entire internet traffic they get from ATT & Verizon. We are becoming so advanced, that the old school espionage methods may become the only way to avoid the government (dead drops, single use cyphers, hidden clues in cars (such as keeping the cup holder open, or putting a newspaper on the front seat)). i obviously read way too many spy novels...
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 04:28 PM
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8. The real terrorists and spies
know better than to use the internet. All this will be good for is domestic espionage.
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 04:33 PM
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10. Domestic espionage, exactly!!
see "Patriot Act".

Meanwhile they sell military knowhow to china and ports to Dubai. That will keep the nation safe...
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 04:41 PM
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12. the ONLY thing we needed to do after 9/11
was make the cockpits break-in proof. And check luggage for bombs and guns. That is all. If terrorists can't get control of the plane nor blow it up, then the problem is solved. We were very naive to leave cockpit doors insecure (remember the days when kids could go check out the cockpit?). It is impractical and unfeasible to prepare for every scenario. Are terrorists going to blow up grain elevators in KS? No. Why did we allow ourselves to abandon the Age of Reason in favor of the Age of Mindless Fear?
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:47 AM
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14. No but they are after the Walmarts in the midwest, remember that one
idiot from Fahrenheit 9/11?

What else is needed is COMMON SENSE, such as paying attention to intelligence memos. But that gets abandoned in favor of brute force surveillance...age of mindless fear indeed.
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 04:31 PM
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9. Heard on one of the threads here about Air Force people messing with wiki entries...
... :wtf:

Is that what they get paid for? How about making sure chinese hackers are kept out?? But probably they are going to outsource this "Dominant Cyber Offensive Engagement" to china, too... Good Lord!

There is so much more to say about this but words fail me, imbeciles, will leave it at that.

Will this RW nightmare ever end??
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avenger64 Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 04:40 PM
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11. hey, thank god I'm paying for that ...
... nothing like taking a big chunk of my paycheck to help fund the military, so they can spy on me.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 04:44 PM
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13. sure. and they can aim for creating invincible robot overlords too, while they're at it
.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 02:52 AM
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15. As you well know, the adversaries of the Bushies are US.
If the Imperial Air Force is openly saying they are trying to do this to "enemies", then you can bet your ass the NSA or other Bushie Organs are working on doing the same thing to the Imperial Subjects of Amerika.
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