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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:20 PM
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Why are Republicans wrong on just about EVERYTHING?
Edited on Fri May-16-08 07:46 PM by MrScorpio
I could never figure that out.

Anybody wanna take a stab at this?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:33 PM
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1. Read George Lakoff. He pretty much has it down.
But, yes, I remember driving along in the late 90s and saying outloud to myself your very quote, and then the next decade proved me even more correct than ever.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 08:23 AM
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29. Lakoff wrote the best analysis I have yet read
If anyone is still scratching their head as to why Americans vote time and time
again against their own best interests, and how come they can be talked into it
repeatedly, Lakoff not only examines the reasons point by point, but makes some
excellent suggestions on how to counter their irrational, btu effective, arguments.
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KillCapitalism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:37 PM
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2. Low IQ's n/t
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:38 PM
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3. They can't follow simple directions
After asking for directions at the train station, the conductor told a neocon, "Turn left and you'll be right, turn right and you'll be left". The boob missed his train.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:40 PM
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4. Because they're idiots.
It's the Selfish party, bred into greed.

Most of them vote the way they do because it's just easier than thinking.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:44 PM
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5. They are driven by their un-American ideology
:D
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WindRiverMan Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:56 PM
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6. Because you cannot serve two masters
Edited on Fri May-16-08 07:56 PM by WindRiverMan
whether religious or not, Jesus pretty well nailed it on the head with that statement. You cannot serve your own interests (be they money, power, prestige, etc.)soley, and find common ground with those who are Utilatarian by nature(us liberals) amd seek a common good for all mankind.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:08 PM
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9. First up: Welcome to DU
Thanks for your input

Stick around and give us more!
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WindRiverMan Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:12 PM
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13. New name, not a newbie....
I have been on DU for a long time. I read more than post. Old name of Denali Democrat. Anway, I moved from Alaska to Wyoming, had to live in an 18-foot camper trialer for a year due to lack of housing, had no tv, no computer, nothing but a camper on a 10 acres of vacant land. Got a manufactored home, got my stuff back, got back online and signed right up for DU again.


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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:14 PM
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16. Well, welcome back
It's good to see another oldtimer
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:25 PM
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20. Your own "Into the Wild". Glad you survived.
Welcome back. :hi:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:27 AM
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34. I remember you.
I used to live in Alaska in the mid 70s, so your name stood out to me.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:14 PM
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17. I disagree
The wife and I are doing everything we can to "climb the ladder". We also support being taxed heavily when we get there.

If all Dems were poor this party would be utterly powerless. I am struggling hard to stay afloat right now, but when I have money (hopefully) I will still be a Liberal.

Some people with money understand how the economy and society work. Being a Socialist is just plain good sense, but it is not incompatible with greed. It's called reinvesting in your environment... sorta like not shitting where you live, and not plucking every fruit before you're ready to eat it. Common sense.

Pukes are either ignorant, fearful, hateful, or all of the above. The ones worth saving are simply ignorant. The rest are permanently broken I'm afraid.
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WindRiverMan Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:21 PM
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19. NO. Having money does not make you bad
or exclude you from being a Socialist. It is the pursuit of money (or power, or whatever) above and to the detriment of all else that makes you essentially a worthless piece of feces in terms of humanity.

I have money, not uber rich, but I have more than most. I was blessed with a sharp mind and a hard working family who taught me working-class values. However, I understand that my talents are 1) either a gift from God; or if you take the agnostic view 2) a genetic accident.

Either way, it sure does not make me superior, and it sure does not give me the right to take a crapper on everyone else while I indulge my own insatiable desire to rise to the top. When you start believing your own bullshit, you have become a Republican.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:57 PM
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7. Greed is short term...Truth is long term. n/t
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:57 PM
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8. I think it's evolutionary....
In any population, you are bound to have a percentage who are altruists and a percentage who are totally self-centered. It makes sense for the survival of the species.

I think the Repubs are simply incapable of feeling altruism.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:17 PM
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18. That's not true
Many of them think they're being altruistic... they're just ignorant.

There are many "liberals" on DU even that have their favored groups, and everyone else should be burned at the stake. There just happen to be far more hateful pukes, but our tribe is not without bile.
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:09 PM
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10. I see
conservatives as essentially fearful people. The vast majority deal with their fear by voting for leaders who promise to prevent, or roll back, change, which they find terribly threatening. The leaders deal with their own fear by accumulating as much money and power as they can, to feel more secure. But it is never enough.

Fear is not a healthy or realistic orientation toward life, and so of course their perceptions are warped and their conclusions false.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:09 PM
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11. They live in the past. Huckabee's stupid gun joke is a perfect example.
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:10 PM
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12. Inbreeding
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:12 PM
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14. because they have to lie...
and make up shit, until they get what they want. After that they don't care what anyone thinks of them. They laugh all the way to the bank.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:13 PM
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15. Because they are always covering for a previous lie. n/t
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cayuga Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:37 PM
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21. I don't think they are wrong
I think they know what they are doing. They are firmly rooted in crime and corruption and at this time, do have astounding power and cronyism to carry out their goals. Their achilles heel was their arrogance. They thought they were invincible and they did not care that we knew. The worm is turning, as it always does. They just couldn't manage their arrogance.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:38 PM
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22. Sub-humans can never get it right.
:dem:
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trusty elf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 08:41 AM
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32. shrub-humans either!
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:55 PM
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23. They're not paid to be correct, just to maintain power
for the mega wealthy, and those resistant to change. This requires short term vision for the greater whole and or the ability to fake sincerity until they believe it them selves. If they can master one or both of these talents, they will be rewarded immensely by the powers that pee trickle down economics. They play the fear and ignorance cards because it's all they have left.

Having said all that, I don't believe all Republicans are wrong on everything, but to advance in their current party structure, Machiavelli rules and I believe this will ultimately destroy their party unless they make fundamental changes. I also don't believe any political party is immune to succumbing to this disease, greed and power can become intoxicating.



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Ahpook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:55 PM
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24. Not quite sure if you mean the schmucks currently in the Whitehouse..
Edited on Fri May-16-08 08:56 PM by Ahpook
or the parrots that follow orders from the same?

The parrots feel it's right. I don't know why? I am not quite sure what it grants them? Fuels their hatreds i suppose.


We are all humans after all. The hatred towards each other is upsetting.

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judasdisney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 06:50 AM
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25. They aren't wrong. They're lying. They know what's what. They're NeoFeudalist Predators.
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 07:01 AM
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27. Correct at the elite leadership level - but the Rank-and file is a different animal
See my comment below
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 06:59 AM
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26. To be a Republican - and NOT a Millionaire -
Requires a level of Socioapathy that dips into Suicidal tendencies.

The Republican elite COUNT on teh rank-and-file being completely mailable and basically stupid. They also have personalities that make them accept programming easily

There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.
-John Dolan

The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. - John Kenneth Galbraith
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 08:16 AM
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28. Because they're entirely about NOT being ... gasp... SOCIALISTS!!!!
Edited on Sat May-17-08 08:24 AM by baby_mouse
Meaning that they feel no particular need to make any useful analysis of information about society and are happy to just *react* to society as if it were a big pile of homework. Acknowledging the *necessity* of human society goes hand in hand with the realisation that *society* and *its individuals* are a good deal less divisible from one another and easily polarised into seperate entities than a passing glance over the facts of life and reality might suggest. This realisation is inevitable, as one approaches the plethora of political positions, with the attitude of: "Wait a minute, one of these positions must be true", which attitude predictably generates left wing thinking, which is, hopefully, about truth.

The American Republicans of today are entirely about NOT being the left. They aren't interested in reality the way people with a "left wing" (I think these days I almost prefer the term "reality-based") belief system are, they just want to play games so they wait until the left has made its case and then oppose it. No matter what it is. This means they are very likely to be wrong about almost EVERYTHING.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 08:25 AM
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30. They see night where we see day
It's a matter of perception, and it's not as easy as you might think to
make someone realize that debts and wars are bad when they have been told
all their lives that debts are OK and wars are necessary.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 08:31 AM
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31. their political philosophy is based on a fundamental lie.
Each of them is 100% in it for him or herself. They use an elaborately constructed set of "conservative" values to mask their base selfish venality. This is antithetical to the very concepts of government, economics, society, culture, civilization and justice.

Therefore, every position they take on any issue is wrong before they ever get started.
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