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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:37 PM
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Arshbishop Tutu on Rev Wright
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-tutu-obamamay14,0,4305030.story
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South African Archbishop Desmond Tutu weighed in on the presidential campaign Tuesday in Chicago, praising America's ability to produce the first viable African-American presidential candidate while describing the nation as haunted by a racial divide that still offers blacks what he called only "the illusion of equality."

"You are a crazy country," Tutu, 76, winner of the Nobel Peace Prize in 1984, said in an interview with the Tribune. "You're a country that has I think some of the most generous people I've ever come across in the world."

But he chided Americans for getting "very, very upset" with the pastor of Sen. Barack Obama, noting that Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. "may have said more crudely what, actually, almost every African-American would have wanted to say. I mean that is how they feel in your country, that race ... is a very, very real issue."

"And I think on the whole you keep trying to pretend it isn't," he added, noting the issue will haunt Americans until there is a way to talk honestly about race, such as holding a reconciliation forum.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:41 PM
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1. I never found anything wrong with what Wright had to say...
Once I actually listened to him for more than the few sound bites the RW media played for us ad naseum.

I think Obama should have embraced the differences between himself and Wright. It would have set a good example... we all need to learn to embrace our differences.

I love Rev. Wright.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:48 PM
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2. So Tutu thinks (eta: almost all) all African-Americans think like Rev Wright.
Edited on Fri May-16-08 08:30 PM by aikoaiko

Great.

eta: the original title to more accurately reflect Tutu and my sarcasm.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:57 PM
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3. Where did he say that?
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:02 PM
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4. Here
"noting that Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. "may have said more crudely what, actually, almost every African-American would have wanted to say. I mean that is how they feel in your country, that race ... is a very, very real issue."
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:03 PM
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6. What does almost mean n/t
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:03 PM
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7. Funny.
I see "almost", not "all".

Even after the third time I read it.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:05 PM
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8. almost every is not equal to all..at least last time I did math???
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:03 PM
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5. "almost every" which really means most..NOT ALL...you have a problem
with reading?? when is most or almost all equal to all? maybe it is not a reading problme at all, just a math problem??
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:08 PM
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9. It's most likely a hyperbole problem.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:11 PM
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10. hyperbole..LYING REALLY REALLY LOUDLY...sure it is!!
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:32 PM
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13. Yes, I was exaggerating.



Here's a cookie.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:29 PM
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12. Sorry, you're correct. Tutu said almost all.


My reaction is the same. great :sarcasm:
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:39 PM
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14. Do you want to know why he would make such an assertion?
Because it's probably SPOT ON!
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:46 PM
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15. you are correct and I am a middle aged white woman who 'thought' the 60's took care of racism
and was rudely awakened when I married a black man...WOW were my eyes opened that racism was alive and well in America!! in Virginia at least. I lived in Rhode Island and it felt right. Less racism but still there.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:19 PM
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11. I agree with Desmond Tutu,
Edited on Fri May-16-08 08:35 PM by Uncle Joe
and I believe the corporate media's one sided treatment of Wright as compared to white pastors such as Hagee, Falwell or Robertson for their radical, controversial or outrageous statements, not to mention the crickets chirping when Limbaugh called for a riot at the upcoming Democratic Convention are vindication of the belief that race is a very very real issue.

I also believe the corporate media have been magnifying the race issue in an attempt to manipulate the American People in to voting for their fears and ignorance on behalf of old ghosts instead of their hopes and aspirations for an enlightened society.


Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, malaise.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 10:35 PM
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18. The Rev. Wright said absolutely nothing wrong
The only reason the RW picked up on it and kept playing it over and over and over out of context is because it was code for "if you vote for Obama, you're going to get this Negro stuff". That is it.

Racism is very much alive and thriving in this country.
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