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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:59 AM
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PNAC site disappears from web

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/16/prominent-neoconservative-site-goes-under/


Prominent neoconservative site goes under.»
Eleven years ago, the neoconservative Project for a New American Century (PNAC) set out its statement of principles advocating the overthrow of Saddam Hussein, putting the country on the road to a preventative invasion of Iraq. Signatories included future Iraq war architects Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, and Elliott Abrams, as well as neoconservatives like Bill Kristol and Robert Kagan. From PNAC’s statement of foreign policy goals:

The history of the 20th century should have taught us that it is important to shape circumstances before crises emerge, and to meet threats before they become dire.

But just as the neocons are attempting to run from responsibility for the Iraq war, it appears PNAC may be abandoning its own website. Here’s the message that greets visitors to PNAC’s site:
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don't worry PNAC isn't gone. its just gone underground for awhile.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:00 AM
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1. maybe they are moving into the "Iran Stage" and think it tacky to admit they were going to war
years ago before any of this happened
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:02 AM
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2. I suspect they are more dangerous than ever.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:16 AM
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3. agree
nt
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:21 AM
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4. Same here. They just don't want people Googling it during the GE
Edited on Sun May-18-08 11:23 AM by tbyg52
Fortunately, we have:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070821161035/http://www.newamericancentury.org/index.html

Oh my - look *why* it's not there....
This Account Has Been Suspended
Please contact the billing/support department as soon as possible. :rofl:
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:22 AM
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5. Preparing for their next underground phase
Remember this is the core group of war profiteers. Their driving purpose if to take power, and once in power, to suck trillions of dollars from the treasury as fast as they can. They know this is not sustainable. Eventually the public rises up th throw them out, just as happened after these same guys sucked trillions out of the treasury with the S&L ripoff, fake Star Wars projects and any number of games under the Iran-Contra umbrella.

the PNAC plan was hatched while they were out of power (at least nominally) during 1993-2000. They have feasted the past 8 years like has never been done in the history of the nation. They know it is over this time. They are going underground and starting on their plans to begin a new feast in 2013.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:32 AM
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6. They don't want anybody comparing lists
Between PNAC and the McLoon foreign policy team.

Seems that Gramps got the guys in the club who were so crazy even Cheney wouldn't work with them :scared:

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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:34 AM
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7. kick
nt
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:34 AM
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8. There are enough sites on th Internet that have captured their plan for world dominance.
Edited on Sun May-18-08 11:35 AM by OmmmSweetOmmm
Their site might have disappeared but what they laid out is still available.

As to Cheney, he was working with them. He is a prominent figure with PNAC.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:55 AM
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10. Oh yeah, I know that. Cheney was in PNAC from day one.
But when it came time for him to assemble the Chimpministration from PNAC's ranks, even Dick had some sick level of standards. Some of those fools even creeped him out. Those are the guys who were backing Rudy 9u11ani earlier in this campaign, and now they're on Team McLoony.

http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/03/17/mccain-advisers/
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:04 PM
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12. He had his minion. Wolfowitz, Feith, Pearl, Abrams...all working with him.
It was Papa Bush who called them The Crazies.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:50 AM
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9. I keep thinking I heard last year that PNAC was dissolved and most had gone into another group...
together. I have looked online and can't find this, can't come up with the right wording or what? The PNAC site has been altered along the way, losing headers etc. I'm going to keep digging.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:57 AM
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11. Darn. I thought they were gone for good. Then someone told me the stie was
Edited on Sun May-18-08 11:58 AM by applegrove
still up. Now this message that it has just gone underground. Have they no shame? Of course not. That is what it means to be PNAC: Shameless Utopians.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 01:27 PM
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13. You took the words right out of my mouth. They've gone underground.
They want the web site down so they can deny PNAC ever existed.

Did they hire Winston Smith to toss it down the memory hole, I wonder?
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:03 PM
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14. PNAC = AEI / It's just the American Enterprise Institute, always was.
They even have "offices" in the same building. Same fucking org, the PNAC only really existed on paper. It's how these politico slimeballs operate.



http://www.aei.org/about/filter.,contentID.20038142214500071/default.asp

Contact Us Print Mail

The American Enterprise Institute
1150 Seventeenth Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20036


http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Project_for_the_New_American_Century

Contact information
Project for the New American Century
1150 17th St. NW, Suite 510
Washington, DC 20036
Phone: (202) 293-4983
Fax: (202) 293-4572



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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:11 PM
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15. Thanks. I just saved your post in my politics folder for future screaming.
Meanwhile, let's hope Cheney has restocked the fridge in the basement-Looks like they'll be back at work there re-constituting their imaginary reasons to exist.

I don't know why they don't just put up an illegal printing press and start making their own 100 bills. Seems like it would be quicker and easier than taking over the world.
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