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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:02 PM
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For his abuse, imprisonment & killing of children, this president should stand trial for war crimes
Edited on Wed May-21-08 01:03 PM by kpete
For His Treatment of Children in the 'War on Terror' Bush is a War Criminal
Submitted by dlindorff on May 21, 2008 - 12:42pm.
By Dave Lindorff

Surely nothing that President Bush has done in his two wretched terms of office—not the invasion and destruction of Iraq, not the overturning of the five-centuries-old tradition of habeas corpus, not his authorization and encouragement of torture, not his campaign of domestic spying—nothing, can compare in its ugliness as his approval, as commander in chief, of the imprisoning of over 2500 children.

According to the US government’s own figures, that is how many kids 17 years and younger have been held since 2001 as “enemy combatants”—often for over a year, and sometimes for over five years. At least eight of those children, some reportedly as young as 10, were held at Guantanamo. They even had a special camp for them there: Camp Iguana. One of those kids committed suicide at the age of 21, after spending five years in confinement at Guantanamo. (Ironically and tragically, that particular victim of the president’s criminal policy, had been determined by the Pentagon to have been innocent only two weeks before he took his own life, but nobody bothered to tell him he was slated for release and a return home to Afghanistan.)

I say Bush’s behavior is criminal because since 1949, under the Geneva Conventions signed and adopted by the US, and incorporated into US law under the Constitution’s supremacy clause, children under the age of 15 are classed as “protected persons,” and even if captured while fighting against US forces are to be considered victims, not POWs. In 2002, the Bush administration signed an updated version of that treaty, raising the “protected person” age to all those “under 18.”

Treaties don’t mean much to this president, to the vice president, or to the rest of the administration, but they should mean something to the rest of us.

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For his abuse, imprisonment and killing of children, this president should stand trial for war crimes.

more at:
http://www.democrats.com/node/16646
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:06 PM
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1. Happy to be the first rec.

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:06 PM
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2. K&R
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:11 PM
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3. K&R
This is my greatest hope. Poor kids.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:14 PM
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4. he should be charged with Crimes Against Humanity.
Edited on Wed May-21-08 01:16 PM by alyce douglas
period. How sickening to have this POS still there sitting in the WH. Hopefully, the truth will prevail.

no wonder so many of our soldiers are coming home committing suicide, they have seen so much destruction and death among innocent people.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:25 PM
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5. But he never will
None of the evil people at the top of this awful gang will ever be punished.
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Bob Dobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:36 PM
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6. If they are not prosecuted, convicted and executed by the USA
then we as a nation will deserve the bloody blow back we will receive from the rest of the planet.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:50 AM
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24. unless we dig into our souls and realize we have to step up to plate.
or will be their victims also. Never say it couldn't happen here, and its being done by these so called Americans, they are treasonous criminals.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:12 AM
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13. I'll disagree with that statement and time will show that I am correct
bushco is going to the hague before this is all said and done. Theres many very powerful people in this world who will make sure of that if we don't do it ourselves. All they are doing now is adding more reasons for their imprisonment not covering their asses as they think.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:55 AM
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20. Those who've tried to pardon persecutors, such as McCain, must be prosecuted as accessories
Efforts to legislate a pardon for torture and other war crimes just increases the pool of those who will have to be put on trial.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 05:09 AM
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15. i think they will be
if not in the US, then in an international tribune. their crimes are too many and too heinous
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:55 PM
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7. Everybody knows this to be true but nobody is suggesting
how to go about it. We know that Congress refuses to do its job by impeaching this administration so what recourse do we have? Could we get a class action suit going against them? We need a solution.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 02:04 PM
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8. Well, duh....(n/t)
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:27 PM
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9. The worst part of the tragedy is that there are many good reasons to believe that he wasn't elected.
His approval ratings weren't exactly soaring when he claimed he had a "mandate" & was going to "use it". Only an egotistical Bush would have the gall to behave as a dictator while his approval ratings are practically in the hole.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:36 AM
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16. Why not,
The current congress is letting him get away with it.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 10:03 AM
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26. the Congress should have slapped these wicked evil men
but the Repigs when they were in control, were just giving them the rubber stamp. Now they are banking on the election and a change of leadership is going to change everything, and it won't too much damage has been done unless we all work together.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:51 PM
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10. Now. K&R!
:kick:
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T Monk Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:56 PM
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11. give me a thousand troops and i'll personally turn him over to world court
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 03:59 AM
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12. war crimes . . . crimes against humanity . . . violations of the Geneva Conventions . . .
unconstitutional signing statements and executive orders . . . violations of US and international law . . .

Bush and company are highly vulnerable on all of these counts . . . and must ultimately be brought to justice by both international and US tribunals . . . the time is W-A-A-A-A-A-Y past due . . .
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:42 AM
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14. George W. Bush is a dangerous criminal
far worse than most behind bars.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:42 AM
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17. If TV doesn't say Bushco are war criminals, then they're not
:sarcasm:
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:34 AM
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18. I didn't realize that we had imprisoned that many children
My God! The rest of the world should boycott us until we impeach these guys.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:36 AM
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19. The world asks of us, what is it that you don't fucking get about these fascists?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:57 AM
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25. the rest of the world has had death and destruction in their own
backyard, we haven't had a confrontation since the Civil War.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 08:04 AM
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21. Only Impeachment Can Begin The Process
Keep demanding it. Keep hammering for it.

The DC-Dem firewall protecting this regime could collapse at any time.

If Conyers would just pass the gavel over to Wexler, the snowball could start to roll downhill.

Impeachment remains our ONLY moral, patriotic option.

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Sam Ervin jret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:33 AM
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22. add it to the list of crimes to go before the Hague.
Should humanity and what passes for civilization survive the next 20 years I believe Bush will ultimately be tried in an international court.

The sooner the better for us all. (well , except him and his of course but they have been at the party at others expense for too long now and it's time to pay the piper)
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:42 AM
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23. I agree Bushco is criminal . . . and should be in prison . . .
oddly enough, tho, I seem to recall that they forced all the under 15-year olds out of at least
one of the areas before they attacked ---

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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 10:25 AM
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27. Dur!
And for 100 other reasons.

Guess what? It will NEVER HAPPEN.

Stalin wound up being killed by the people likely to be purged next, but that can hardly be considered "justice"- simple cause and effect.

Bushco grows in power while our complacency grows to new heights.
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 11:06 AM
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28. If there is any justice in this world
:applause:
GOD let it be done!!
GOD BLESS AMERICA- we desperately need it!
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:11 PM
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29. K&R&Impeach Or Lose To McCain
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BayjanDem Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 01:10 PM
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30. My Hope
My hope is that one day Bush and his minions are charged with SOMETHING, ANYTHING. History will eventually call him the worst President ever. But he should do some kind of time. And as accessories some of the American people for voting for him. And some the media for giving him a free ride. Ok I'm done.
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PurgedVoter Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 01:24 PM
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31. Yes I am sure I want to....
But it was too late.

Still, good post!
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:44 PM
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32. for some reason, the connection between war crimes and the defrauding of America
escapes being seen as part of same motivation; which WE understand as being the destruction of representative gov ie democracy in the USA, but we're a minority, sorta. It's not naivete, or even plain stupidity; it has something to do with THE MAN understanding crowd psychology, psychic scoring and use of subliminal messaging. Lookit the pigmedia. How is it that a) the news media is lower then car salemen in terms of trust? Yet if the very medium of 'information' is untrustworthy: is it possible this is the idea- the opposite of what we are led to believe is true, therefore the news media is trusted, because common sense says the opposite? Their 'crimes against humanity' might be the only thing that bush and co. know is going to keep them from being held to account (the nazis never intended the death camps to go down in history- not the history taught to schoolkids, that's for sure. In the same way, bush and co possibly understood that the horror itself of the wars was all that protect them from us; since the majority simply refuse to believe LIHOP much less MIHOP, or that's the impression mass media is giving. What are war crimes compared to the intentional devaluing of the US dollar, secretly cashing in the value, using fake home loans mortgages as cover? What are war crimes compared to LIHOP?)
I hope Obama pulls the rug from under them, once he has power....
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:57 AM
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33. kr
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