Mixup throws House veto overide in doubt...

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"That means Bush vetoed a different bill from the one Congress passed, raising questions that the eventual law would be unconstitutional. Republicans objected when Democrats proposed passing the missing section separately and sending that to Bush."

More here.

And seeing Boner's face turn a nice plum color. It was quite entertaining actually. And Putnam who was sitting behind Boner was funny-one might think a representative should like what they were doing. He acted as if it was an inconvenience for him to be there.

But I thought that Hoyer handled it well.

The House overwhelmingly rejected President Bush's veto Wednesday of a $290 billion farm bill, but what should have been a stinging defeat for the president became an embarrassment for Democrats.

Only hours before the House's 316-108 vote, Bush had vetoed the five-year measure, saying it was too expensive and gave too much money to wealthy farmers when farm incomes are high. The Senate then was expected to follow suit quickly.

Action stalled, however, after the discovery that Congress had omitted a 34-page section of the bill when lawmakers sent the massive measure to the White House.

That means Bush vetoed a different bill from the one Congress passed, raising questions that the eventual law would be unconstitutional. Republicans objected when Democrats proposed passing the missing section separately and sending that to Bush.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/05/21/national/w094545D68.DTL">Complete article

All the House needs to do is send the whole bill to Bush and let him veto it. No need for the House to pass it again unless there is a time limit they have to meet.

"WASHINGTON - The House overwhelmingly rejected President Bush's veto Wednesday of a $290 billion farm bill, but what should have been a stinging defeat for the president became an embarrassment for Democrats."

..... when it *should* be just as embarrassing to the White House and der Chimpenfurher. It also shows how partisan the chimp is... he vetoed something he didn't even read or understand...

Funny also is how they mention this is the chimp's 10th Veto during his Residency, but they failed to mention that EVERY veto has come since we got a Democratic Congress.

.... and the propaganda machine rolls on...

K&R

Excellently summed up.

that they passed such a awful bill. Rich people get the bucks (like that doesn't happen enough) and the poor, especially the third world poor, get screwed.

It goes for about any business, really, but we'll use farmers as an example.

I don't see the big deal about the guy with a backyard garden, or even 40 acre farm, not getting the same breaks and incentives as the guy with a 100,000 acre farm. The 'small farmer' is mainly in it for himself, as a hobby or a way to make extra money. Most hold outside jobs, too. Even the full time small farmer, who farms for a living and sells to the local or state produce market, isn't really contributing to the US Market as a whole. His total of 4 or 5 thousand crates of beans, squash, okra, tomatoes, or whatever, isn't a drop in the bucket to the farmers that produce 3000 crates per day during growing season.

Face it, if *everyone* thought they had incentive enough to stay home and make a living from a backyard garden, *everyone* would be doing it, wouldn't they?

Small farmers are good for the *local* economy and *local* market, but they are not even a blip on the radar of importance in the US and Global Market.

that this farm bill makes in mandatory to buy US goods for distribution to the third world rather than buy more "locally", starving out the farmers in those countries, polluting the enviroment just isn't that big a deal.

Or are just ignoring the effect on the rest of the world?

I'm feeling a little selfish right now. I don't really *care* about the farmers in other countries. We have our OWN crisis going on right now, right here, in our OWN Country. We need to worry about and take of ourselves for a while. We have hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of homeless, hungry & poverty stricken people right here within our own borders. It's time for the United States of America to give some aid & charity *to* the United States of America.

As for buying US goods to ship overseas... how is that a bad thing? If I'm a produce broker and I have an order for 500 crates of mangoes to go to, say, Germany and I can either make a call to a packing house in Florida, or one in Guatemala - shouldn't I buy from Florida? How does buying from Guatemala and shipping to Germany help our economy *or* one of *our* farmers of *any* size?

We've worried about "the rest of the world" long enough, while ignoring our own wounds.... Physician, heal thyself.....