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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 05:44 AM
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Whoops: 150 Million Year-Old Dinosaur Tracks Near Holy Land
First dino tracks found in ancient Arabia
Footprints left by a dinosaur ‘cow’ and a herd of 11 giant sauropods

MSNBC
By Charles Q. Choi
updated 8:57 p.m. CT, Tues., May. 20, 2008



Nancy Stevens / Ohio University
The tracks of an ornithopod dinosaur are preserved
in Yemeni rocks that scientists say were coastal
mudflats 150 million years ago.


LONDON - For the first time, dinosaur footprints have been found on the Arabian Peninsula. In ancient coastal mudflats in Yemen, fossils reveal that a herd of 11 gigantic dinosaurs — sauropods, the largest animals that ever walked on land — tramped deep tracks into the earth that have lasted roughly 150 million years. Nearby, there are tracks of a lone ornithopod — a large, common vegetarian with birdlike, three-toed feet that walked on its hind legs, sometimes referred to as the "cow of the Mesozoic," said researcher Anne Schulp of the Maastricht Museum of Natural History in the Netherlands. The Mesozoic Era is also known as the Age of Dinosaurs,

Altogether, these new tracks help shed the most light to date on the mysterious history of dinosaurs in the Arabian Peninsula. Only a few dinosaur fossils have been reported so far from the Arabian Peninsula — isolated bones from the Sultanate of Oman and possible fragments of a sauropod from the Republic of Yemen. "No dinosaur trackways had been found in this area previously. It's really a blank spot on the map," Schulp said. And "big dinosaurs don't live alone," Schulp told LiveScience. "I'm sure there were some carnivorous dinosaurs around as well, as well as much smaller animals, not only dinosaurs."

Just as expert trackers can learn much about their quarry today from tracks, so too can scientists discover critical details about dinosaurs. For instance, the fact that sauropods did not leave furrows from their tails with their footprints means these giants did not drag their lengthy tails behind them. Instead, they must have held them high off the ground, to help balance their bodies, given their equally long necks.

"We really want to learn when did which dinosaurs live where, and why was that?" Schulp said. "How did the distribution change over time, why did one replace another and move from one place to another?"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24740710/">MORE


- I know that the ID people and the Creationists are working overtime to explain and "reinterpret" this seemingly contradictory information. Obviously these aren't dinosaur tracks, but are from the rare and little known Giant Donkey. And which are (of course), only 6,000 years old...
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:00 AM
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1. The reason why there is only one set of footprints...
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:02 AM
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2. oh man
thanks for the guffaw
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:09 AM
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6. That's not a joke.
That's real.

Stephen Colbert told me that Jesus planted the dinosaur bones to test us.


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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:38 AM
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31. I had a pastor who believed that.
Funny thing is, his young son was obsessed with dinosaurs.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:43 AM
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32. LOL!
No matter how warped parents get (I know I am) the kids always seem to find a way to find a little sanity!

Yay rebellion!
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:07 AM
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3. Awwww....
...in't he just a lil' cutie pie.

- I wonder what he named him???
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:12 AM
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7. Judas? n/t
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:08 AM
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4. hehehehe
I can just see the "Footprints in the Sand" tapestry hanging on a nearby giant fern
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:05 AM
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25. I prefer "Buttprints on the Sand"
One night I had a wondrous dream,
One set of footprints there was seen,
The footprints of my precious Lord,
But mine were not along the shore.

But then some strange prints appeared,
And I asked the Lord, "What have we here?"
Those prints are large and round and neat,
"But Lord, they are too big for feet."

"My child," He said in somber tones,
"For miles I carried you along.
I challenged you to walk in faith,
But you refused and made me wait."

"You disobeyed, you would not grow,
The walk of faith, you would not know,
So I got tired, I got fed up,
And there I dropped you on your butt."

"Because in life, there comes a time,
When one must fight, and one must climb,
When one must rise and take a stand,
Or leave their butt prints in the sand."

Author Unknown

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:07 AM
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27. I like that! Thank you!!!
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:12 AM
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30. *sniff* Isn't poetry wonderful? n/t
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:09 AM
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5. That's a dandy lol
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:21 AM
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8. It never ceases to amaze me
Edited on Thu May-22-08 06:30 AM by nathan hale
how much time religion bashers at DU spend on this stuff.

I mean, an inordinate amount of energy.

This crap just doesn't advance our cause at all (you know, the cause of getting the evil f***ing thugs out of power and getting our troops back home and not bombing Iran and rebuilding our national infrastructure).

If MY big boy panties were this much in a bunch over who's right or who's smarter or cleverer about matters of the origin of the universe, etc. and I wanted to post a snarky "Gotcha!" post, I'd do it in the Religion section or the DU lounge.

http://www.mountainman.com.au/hsinhsin.html

"If you wish to see the truth
then hold no opinions for or against anything.
To set up what you like against what you dislike
is the disease of the mind."

Of course, you might interpret this as shoving religion down your throat, but I see it as wisdom.

"You may call it 'madness', but they call it 'hi-de-ho'..." (Underneath the Harlem Moon by Gordon and Revel 1932)
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:27 AM
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9. If it takes you "an inordinate amount of energy"...
...to defeat your opponent in a debate, you're doing it wrong.



Also, if your big boy panties are in a bunch, you need to get a different size, or maybe stop buying panties.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:38 AM
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10. Actually they are"pull-ups" for those who want to feel like big boys...
Edited on Thu May-22-08 06:39 AM by rfranklin
just in case of accidents.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:42 AM
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12. Elastic is just another temptation from...
...The Baby Satan!

Resist the snug fit of the dark lord's younger manifestation!


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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:41 AM
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11. such a weak come-back
Edited on Thu May-22-08 06:47 AM by nathan hale
However, at this point, I would suggest that you aren't very good at parsing complex paragraphs, you didn't click on the link and see another point of view concerning wisdom, you are terminally opinionated, and unnecessarily rude and lacking in compassion and understanding.

By the way, what IS your position on the key issues? And how can your divisiveness help us in that
effort?
-------------------
Holy crap! I just re-read your post. "...to defeat your opponent in a debate..." To you, dialog and debate are about WINNING and LOSING?

I was right. You didn't read or comprehend the link. Why don't you read the sample from the link and comment intelligently on it's substance?
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:43 AM
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13. Wisdom?
This forum is limited to wisdom?

Well, I'll be out on my porch mulling that one over.


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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:50 AM
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14. Well. That discussion went rather well, didn't it.
Uh oh. Gotta take my granddaughter to school. See ya on the campus quad, classmate.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:55 AM
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16. Okay dude.
I just hope you can get enough of your frat buddies to help carry that chip on your shoulder.

Or is that a dinosaur?
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:58 AM
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20. Brouhahaha!
Superb wit, my good fellow. "Frat buddies", indeed.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:00 AM
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21. Hey, your grand daughter isn't going to drive herself to school...
...get going grandpa!
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:52 AM
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15. He's simply poking fun at how the far {dangerous} right may try to incorporate this fact into...
...their rhetoric and worldview. It is relevant given that this far right wing "Christian" pathology/movement is very well funded and amassed, and obviously finds great favor in the likes of the fascist Bush/Cheney machine.

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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:57 AM
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18. Thank you.
Finally, an intelligent and perceptive response.

Actually, I knew what he was doing. It's just intellectually lazy to conflate Christianity with Fundamental Christianity. And some of the DUers attack Christianity like ravenous junk-yard dogs. A little goes a long way.

And I like to shake up "groupthink" threads a bit. Nothing succeeds like clarity, I always say.

Cheers, and thanks once again for your clarity.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:02 AM
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23. Well, bless the hell out of you!
Without you, why the thread probably would have died from neglect!

I hope you share that "wisdom" of yours on more "anti-religious" threads. Or, would this be called a science thread?

Now, I'm confused.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:06 AM
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26. Confused?
I don't think so.

Amusing? Barely. (Actually, I've seen you do much better on other threads).

Disingenuous? Yeah, a bit.

In all seriousness, have you read a lot of Plato, James Joyce, e e cummings?
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:11 AM
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28. Confused? No. Bored? Yes.
I'm not going to help you threadjack.

If you want to start a thread about mythology and superstition, no one is stopping you.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:59 AM
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45. Geez!
Wotta maroon!
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:03 AM
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24. Thanks, and your point is taken...
I have my own spiritual beliefs, leaning toward Gnosticism, although I'm generally not in favor of any organized religion ... much how I hold to existentialism as a form of breaking away from any systematized philosophy. But yeah, I know plenty of Christians who don't think and value like fundies in any way. They do tend to all get lumped under one negative heading.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:58 AM
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19. It's almost like how the Nazis co-opted the name...
...National Socialist.

They took the name, but none of the ideals.

Oh, and sorry I Huckabee'd the thread.


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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:12 AM
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29. I'm sorry that your god is pretend. n/t
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:55 AM
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44. I've been waiting for This post!
So, young skywalker. You know my religious beliefs, do you?

Ok. Tell me. Feel free to use the link I provided above.

Just who is this god that doesn't exist?

Am I a Baha'i? Muslim? Hindu? Jew?

What in my posts lead you to make such a presumption?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 10:11 AM
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46. My god told me.
Edited on Thu May-22-08 10:12 AM by IanDB1
Didn't see THAT coming, now did you?

:P

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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 08:01 AM
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34. Umm... well, I'm sorry ''bout your lingerie problem, but....
Matthew 10:14 "And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet."

- Buh-bye

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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:48 AM
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43. Doh!
I was talking about YOUR undergarment problem.

See? That's what I mean.

Nobody knows how to use their frickin' brain around here.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:56 AM
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17. Great... now I'm gonna have to make space for a triceratops in my Christmas nativity scene.
Damn you scientists!!! You know how much papier-mâché it's gonna take to make one triceratops?
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:00 AM
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22. LOL! n/t
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 08:06 AM
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35. Maybe you can...
...pose him so he's lying down.



- That way you stick the manger in-between the horns!!!
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 08:24 AM
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39. Believe it or not...
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:56 AM
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33. And now, for something completely different...
...a post about the article!

I just realized something odd, TFA says:
"No dinosaur trackways had been found in this area previously. It's really a blank spot on the map..."


That doesn't make sense.

I learned in homeschool that Noah's ark landed in the Middle East, depositing all the dinosaurs there. And isn't oil just 6,000 year-old dinosaurs? You'd think since the Middle East is awash in oil, there would be more dinosaur footprints.

Obviously the only explanation is only flying dinosaurs lived in the Middle East!

Now see if you can refute my tinfoil-clad logic!
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 08:10 AM
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36. "...it's..."


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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 08:25 AM
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40. Flying dinosaurs, huh?
You mean like this? :P



- Are you from http://www.creationmuseum.org/">Kentucky?
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 08:33 AM
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41. Hell no.
Fuck those people.

I heard there are fossils on the ground where they built their temple to stupidity that completely refute all their delusions!

Oh, and fuck that bastard that ruined the place where they shot the dinosaur scene from Pee Wee's Big Adventure.

Why can't people who suffer from religious hallucinations take their medication already and accept reality?

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caseycoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 08:19 AM
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37. Well HELL!
I thought this post was gonna be about John McCain!

:rofl:

Seriously, very cool information.
Thanks!
:toast:
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 08:21 AM
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38. He did visit a while ago...
...walked around like he was shopping!

Good one, btw!
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caseycoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 08:58 AM
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42. I remember that shopping spree.
I think he had 1/2 the army surrounding the area so he could show us the great progress...
What a dork!
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