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Diana Prince Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 10:15 AM
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OIL PRICES ARE BS
Edited on Thu May-22-08 10:27 AM by marn999
The article is 2 pages long but definitely worth the read. If someone has already linked I apologize for being behind the times.


from the Asia Times, May 6th:


Speculators knock OPEC off oil-price perch
By F William Engdahl

The price of crude oil today is not made according to any traditional relation of supply to demand. It is controlled by an elaborate financial market system as well as by the four major Anglo-American oil companies. As much as 60% of today's crude oil price is pure speculation driven by large trader banks and hedge funds. It has nothing to do with the convenient myths of Peak Oil. It has to do with control of oil and its price. How?

First, the role of the international oil exchanges in London and New York is crucial to the game. Nymex in New York and the Intercontinental Exchange (ICE) Futures in London today control global benchmark oil prices which in turn set most of the freely traded oil cargo. They do so via oil futures contracts on two grades of crude oil - West Texas Intermediate and North Sea Brent.

A third rather new oil exchange, the Dubai Mercantile Exchange (DME), trading Dubai crude, is more or less a daughter of Nymex, with Nymex president James Newsome sitting on the board of DME and most key personnel British or American citizens.

Brent is used in spot and long-term contracts to value much of crude oil produced in global oil markets each day. The Brent price is published by a private oil industry publication, Platt's. Major oil producers including Russia and Nigeria use Brent as a benchmark for pricing the crude they produce. Brent is a key crude blend for the European market and, to some extent, for Asia.

West Texas Intermediate (WTI) has historically been more of a US crude oil basket. Not only is it used as the basis for US-traded oil futures, but it is also a key benchmark for US production.



http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/JE06Dj07.html

Tried to add graph from page 2 but was unsuccessful
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 10:39 AM
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1. Here's the graph from page 2
Welcome to DU, marn999!
Just paste the image url into your message to embed an image.

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Diana Prince Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 10:42 AM
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2. Thank you! n/t
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godai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 11:20 AM
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3. From the article: Perhaps 60% of oil prices are speculation
Edited on Thu May-22-08 11:22 AM by godai
NYMEX/ICE/Dubai Exchange are a conspiracy to inflate oil prices that needs to be investigated.

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(from the article)
Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley today are the two leading energy trading firms in the United States. Citigroup and JP Morgan Chase are major players and numerous hedge funds speculate.

In June 2006, the senate investigation estimated that of oil traded in futures markets at some $60 a barrel, about $25 of that was due to pure financial speculation. One analyst estimated in August 2005 that US oil inventory levels suggested WTI crude prices should be around $25 a barrel, and not $60.

That would mean today that at least $50 to $60 or more of today's $115 a barrel price is due to pure hedge fund and financial institution speculation. However, given the unchanged equilibrium in global oil supply and demand over recent months amid the explosive rise in oil futures prices traded on Nymex and ICE exchanges in New York and London, it is more likely that as much as 60% of the oil price today is pure speculation. No one knows officially except the tiny handful of energy trading banks in New York and London, and they certainly aren't talking.

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Then, in January 2006, ICE Futures in London began trading a futures contract for West Texas Intermediate (WTI) crude oil, a type of crude oil that is produced and delivered in the United States. ICE Futures also notified the CFTC that it would be permitting traders in the United States to use ICE terminals in the United States to trade its new WTI contract on the ICE Futures London exchange. ICE Futures as well allowed traders in the United States to trade US gasoline and heating oil futures on the ICE Futures exchange in London.

Despite the use by US traders of trading terminals within the United States to trade US oil, gasoline, and heating oil futures contracts, the CFTC has until today refused to assert any jurisdiction over the trading of these contracts.

Persons within the United States seeking to trade key US energy commodities – US crude oil, gasoline, and heating oil futures – are able to avoid all US market oversight or reporting requirements by routing their trades through the ICE Futures exchange in London instead of the NYMEX in New York.


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BigDaddy44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 11:35 AM
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4. So someone want to explain again how Nationalizing will fix this problem?
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