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BobbyVan Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:02 PM
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Am I the only one disgusted by the Farm Bill?
What a pork-laden, food crisis-causing piece of corporate welfare.

And the fact that this puts me on the side of George Bush, and against the Congress, makes me even more disgusted.
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DRK Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:05 PM
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1. yes!
It took 7 years, but W. finally did something i agree with...vetoing this corporate welfare for agri-biz and millionaire hobby-farmers. The real glitch here is that I can understand some price support to even out the precarious business of farming, but that should apply to domestic goods. We tax payers should not be subsidizing crops that are shipped overseas. Often these crops go to developing nations and undercut domestic agriculture in those countries. And this is the exact thing that would happen with the Columbian trade deal.

DRK
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:05 PM
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2. Uh, no. But did you not see this coming seeing as corporate
farming has pretty much run the little family farmers off the land?
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:07 PM
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3. Yeah, right, George Bush knows pork when he sees it....What a guy...
Edited on Thu May-22-08 12:08 PM by GreenTea
"food crisis-causing" sounds like words right of Dana Perino's mouth.

Send him some bacon maybe he'll shut the fuck up!
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:10 PM
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4. It was my impression that the new law put limits on the rich getting subsidies
Edited on Thu May-22-08 12:10 PM by ThomWV
That no person making more than some reasonable (large) amount of non farm income would be eligible to receive anything. I think it was conditional but under a million bucks a year.
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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:16 PM
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5. Know how you feel.......
....agreeing with Junior makes me physically ill.....but that Farmbill IS a atrocity. As usual it benefits those who don't need help.....
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:23 PM
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7. If that was only benefiting the rich Bush would of signed it in a fucking heartbeat.
Edited on Thu May-22-08 12:36 PM by GreenTea
Get real! Bush signs ALL bills if they ONLY benefit the rich and corporations and nothing for the poor or workers...tell us all when he hasn't? Sounds like Fox news bullshit you're repeating!!

Two-thirds of the bill would pay for nutrition programs such as food stamps, about $40 billion is for farm subsidies and additional $30 billion would go to farmers to idle their land and to other environmental programs.

The farm bill also would:

- Boost nutrition programs by more than $10 billion over 10 years and expand a program to provide fresh fruits and vegetables to schoolchildren.

- Cut a per-gallon ethanol tax credit for refiners from 51 cents to 45 cents. The credit supports the blending of fuel with the corn-based additive. More money would go to cellulosic ethanol, made from plant matter.

- Require that meats and other fresh foods carry labels with their country of origin.

You sound like a bunch of whiny republicans who don't want to give the poor and small farmers anything.... 290 Billion for five years isn't even half of what's been spent and given to American corporations making killings on profits in Iraq for the past five years....Yeah, the rich corporate farmers will also get a piece of the pie in this bill....try and get an override without that group getting something, it'll never happen!!
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:44 PM
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8. Thank you for the truth!
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Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:20 PM
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6. I can't believe I agree with monkey-boy. It's been a while.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:45 PM
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9. How could you ever agree with Bush....his ONLY goal is to give more to the rich
Edited on Thu May-22-08 12:55 PM by GreenTea
and fuck the poor....You think Bush cares for the poor? And that this bill is only for the rich so Bush wouldn't sign it because the rich might get more? Are you serious?

Fuck no, the bill was written by the democrats to help the less fortunate and unless there were provisions in the bill for the rich, the republicans would of NEVER supported it and the bill would of died, never passed, vetoed....along with a lot of very good programs in that bill for the poor, small farmers and workers, AND protections for the environment as well!

Of course Bush hated this bill!

If Bush likes or dislikes anything, one should look at the other side, because that's where the truth will lie, certainly not with Bush's words coming out of his mouth.
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Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:53 PM
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10. Please calm down
A broken clock is right twice a day. There is a lot of pork and subsidies in the bill. Just because there is some good stuff in any bill doesn't automatically excuse the bad stuff.

I have never uttered, written, or privately thought that Bush cares about the poor.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 01:38 PM
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12. Every bill is full of pork
Some pork is good, some is bad. When people rail agaist "pork" in general, a lot times what they're really saying is "government domestic spending." Pork is often funding for bridges, and other such projects that congress critters want to take home to their constituencies.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 01:30 PM
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11. Do you all really expect every bill passed by Congress to be 100% perfect in the eyes of progressive
thinkers? That will never happen! There are tons of special interest groups and political maneuvers in every bill. This farm bill was needed. The inclusion of food programs is great and steps (although tiny) to reduce the amount of aid going to agribusinesses are in there. Maybe with the next farm bill and a heavy Democratic majority, we will make further progress.
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