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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 02:30 PM
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Just curious but does anyone know if McLame has ties to Moonies too?
Since he has no qualms about getting cozy with Armageddon-ists like John Hagee and Rod Parsley, makes me wonder if he likes the taste of Moonie money too.

Might be interesting to pursue.
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 02:33 PM
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1. Is "Moonies" a derogatory term?
Just wondering. It probably is these days, when everybody is offended by everyone else's speech and people are organizing to silence others.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 02:34 PM
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2. Moonies as in the cult. I have no love for cults. Do you?
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 02:38 PM
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5. I don't bow to any special interest group. I was just asking a question.
Lots of people are constantly on Speech Patrol, demanding firings/suspensions/sensitivity classes/etc. I'm not one of them. I was just asking about the term "Moonies" because if someone says they are offended, then by all means, we need to shut down speech!
:sarcasm:
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 02:40 PM
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8. I've never heard ANYONE here defend Moon and his minons
so your question makes no sense.

Carry on.
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 02:42 PM
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11. LOL. I didn't say that.
The question was about the use of the word "Moonies."

You know how people are offended by other so-called derogatory words and phrases and seek to silence the offenders? What if the Moonies...

Ah, nevermind. I guess if you don't get it by now, well, as you say, carry on!
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 02:35 PM
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3. Well, lots of us rabble rousers just have to slam followers of the King of the Universe
for form's sake ;)
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 02:39 PM
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6. Yes!
Moon and his cultists are fascist assholes!
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 02:41 PM
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9. Moon looks pretty cool in that pic.
:hide:
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 02:43 PM
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12. strange
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 02:44 PM
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14. Lighten up.
I think you're taking yourself too seriously here.

And what is that in your pic?
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 02:46 PM
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15. I don't take myself too seriously.
I'm asking a serious question.

I'm sick and tired of our government being used and abused by the mentally insane.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 02:36 PM
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4. I assume he does: the Moonies are a major GOP funder.
Edited on Thu May-22-08 02:36 PM by electropop
$
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 02:39 PM
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7. this pic explains it a bit better
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 02:42 PM
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10. Are there some pukes in the photo?
I mean puke politicians - I don't recongize anybody right off.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 02:44 PM
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13. yep
and one fool assed Democrat, unfortunately.

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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 02:58 PM
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16. Oh you mean like Charlie black sponsoring Moon's "coronation" in the Dirksen Building?


http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2004/06/21/moon/index.html

Jun 21, 2004 | You probably imagine your congressman hard at work in the Capitol debating legislation, making laws -- you know, governing. But your newspaper probably didn't tell you that one night in March, members of Congress hosted a crowning ritual for an ex-convict and multibillionaire who dressed up in maroon robes and declared himself the Second Coming.

On March 23, the Dirksen Senate Office Building was the scene of a coronation ceremony for Rev. Sun Myung Moon, owner of the conservative Washington Times newspaper and UPI wire service, who was given a bejeweled crown by Rep. Danny K. Davis, D-Ill. Afterward, Moon told his bipartisan audience of Washington power players he would save everyone on Earth as he had saved the souls of Hitler and Stalin -- the murderous dictators had been born again through him, he said. In a vision, Moon said the reformed Hitler and Stalin vouched for him, calling him "none other than humanity's Savior, Messiah, Returning Lord and True Parent."

To many observers, this bizarre scene would have looked like the apocalypse as depicted in "Left Behind" novels. Moon, 84, the benefactor of conservative foundations like the American Family Coalition -- who served time in the 1980s for tax fraud and conspiracy to obstruct justice -- has views somewhere to the right of the Taliban's Mullah Omar. Moon preaches that gays are "dung-eating dogs," Jews brought on the Holocaust by betraying Jesus, and the U.S. Constitution should be scrapped in favor of a system he calls "Godism" -- with him in charge. The man crowned "King of Peace" by congressmen once said, according to sermons reprinted in his church's Unification News: "Suppose I were to hit you with the baseball bat to stop you, bloodying your ear and breaking a bone or two, yet still you insisted on doing more work for Father."

What, exactly, drew at least a dozen members of Congress to Moon's coronation? (By the Unification Church's estimate, 81 congressmen attended, although that number is probably high.) The event was the grand finale of Moon's coast-to-coast "tear down the cross" Moonification tour, intended to remove Christian crosses from almost 300 churches in poor neighborhoods -- the idea being that the cross was an obstacle to uniting religions under Moon. Yet the Dirksen ceremony was sold as a celebration of world peace. According to a cheery promotional video released by Moon's International and Interreligious Federation for World Peace, the ceremony marked the dawn of "the era of the Eternal Peace Kingdom, one global family under God." Moon's coronation also cured God's pain, the announcer explains.

By all accounts, most of the congressmen in attendance didn't expect a coronation. Instead, they thought they were heading to an awards dinner honoring activists from their home states as "Ambassadors for Peace." A flier for the event claimed an impressive who's-who of organizers, including Republicans Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Rep. Roscoe Bartlett of Maryland and Charlie Black, a top Republican strategist. Democrats were named, too, like Rep. Harold Ford of Tennessee, who, incidentally, claims to have not even heard of the event.




Which brings us to this at Firedoglake..

http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/26/the-moonies-and-mccains-main-man/

So we can only assume that they'll likely ignore the revelations in Gorenfeld's book that none other than uber-lobbyist Charlie Black -- not just McCain's "chief political adviser" but a right-hand man for the Bush clan as well -- played a role in making that coronation happen.

According to Gorenfeld, Black admitted to helping invite people to attend the coronation. And he's listed as a sponsor in the coronation's printed program.


You mean something like that?
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 02:59 PM
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17. Yeah. Just like that there.
:kick:

:thumbsup:
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