Imagine this; someone puts a tire filled with gasoline around your neck and lights it..

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/05/22/southafrica.riots/index.html

it totally appaling...I did not mean any disrespect.

and stand behind any effort to stop it. I was just interested if the poster had family in Africa because it would make it more personal. I feel for EVERYONE who lives under that sort of threat. The idea that anyone could do that to another person makes one wonder how they are taught to be so cruel..we are using words now...I fear we are being raised to be as devisive as people there and I fear for my country if it continues!

What a world it is becoming :(

raped and murdered as well in many other ways in that country as well as others? I give you alot of credit for trying so hard to get some attention to something that is extremely horrifying, all I can say is try not to give up as so many have done before you in attempting to get people to stop such horrors....

So I will post on your thread to help you keep it up, you obviously care a great deal, maybe you might get others to care as well if you shout loud enough to be heard above the din of the many other injustices that are routinely being visited on those that cannot defend themselves alone.

new anymore especially on this site. Do you recall when some of the pictures of our government torturing those that considered to be terrorists were shown?

I saw many of those threads drop as well, I remember going to this site from a link someone put up of pictures that showed the atrocities of torture that our soldiers performed on Iraq citizens, children as well you know...

You barely hear a peep anymore about that subject though nothing ever came of such injustices..

I was called a traitor by my own husband for even caring about people in another country when I asked him to look at the pictures, he refused, there are millions of Americans who feel the same as he does and will just not look, he feels that its not our problem and not our place as citizens of this country to question one's government or worry about another's, the mindset, it is there..

I'm sorry that your not getting enough hits but to be honest, it is better to get action that outrage which accomplishes nothing, maybe, there is someone who might see your thread and act on in in a different manner than writing about it on Du...you just never know..

don't give up, that is the problem with many of us today, our attention span has become non existent and I blame religion for this lapse as well as the devious mind controlling techniques being employed by our government and the power and greedy hungry corporation circles who are doing everything they can to ensure we focus only on being able to pay our next mortgage payment and be able to feed our families....

You have a huge hurdle to overcome in getting help for them, good luck...

and as far as your relatives over there, I will keep them in my thoughts and hope that they stay safe and out of harms way..

I never could understand how such atrocities have continued for far too long in not only that country but others as well, I fear sometimes that the powers that be would love nothing better than to have the same be able to happen here in our country...such actions keep the masses in fear and aid in keeping them in line, and its more then obvious that is the wish of the powers that be in the good ole usa, to keep we the citizens in check..

I really fear for the future of our country, I can only hope that we are not being further led down the path of destruction of democracy with the next so called elected leader of the supposed free world....

worries in my own little world that I have allowed to swallow me whole and keep me from stepping out my front door and do more than aid in ensuring my own family are not allowed to destruct, perhaps I should allow my kids to learn on their own how to pick themselves up, it would lend in them having more character...

I honestly wish I could help you and those that honestly need a real helping hand...I have the want to, the desire, but I have a daughter that has lost her mind, I have become bogged down in attempting to care for her myself after attempting to get help from outside forces that though came through at first, they did not follow through and pretty much threw her out and if it wasn't for my husband and I she would be nothing more than another homeless casualty of this pathetic country's false pretense that they care about it's citizens...



It makes me really ill and makes me feel helpless that I have been reduced to caretaker for someone that is inflicted with a disease that I know absolutely nothing about nor how to handle it properly...


Just know that if I could, I would do more than lip service. I was horrified when I learned about the people in Dufur and I am again properly horrified about the newest terrors the people of Africa are facing and can only hope, wish I could say pray but I no longer believe in prayer that the wrongs against humanity as a whole will one day no longer run so rampant, I can not imagine for the life of me what those people are going through nor can I the ones in Iraq, my heart breaks that my country is responsible for some of it and I feel worthless in many ways.


I have lost faith you know in people in general, I don't get on line hardly at all these days, it is way too depressing because I feel that I can do nothing more than write my outrage and how pathetic is that when so many need more than mere words?


I hope that my lost of faith in humanity is wrong, but I fear it is not, I know there are good people but sadly, not near enough...


I'm really sorry that your having to deal with this at a time when not enough can be done to find help fast enough, it must be heart wrenching in that you have ties to that country and so you obviously have a personal stake in what can happen in the next moment, as strange as it sounds one not need know someone to honestly feel for them, I do you know, I just cannot do more at this time, I honestly wish I could, them and so many others..

Perhaps one day, and hopefully it will not be too late..

:kick:

Her reputation was damaged by what many considered her sometimes bloodthirsty rhetoric, the most noteworthy example of this being a speech she gave in Munsieville on April 13, 1985, where she endorsed the practice of necklacing in the struggle to end apartheid. She said, "with our boxes of matches and our necklaces we shall liberate this country".

I knew she was violent, but did not know she sanctioned the neclacing..disgusting!

a woman wearing a "collar bomb" minutes before it is detonated.

if you wish to view this image, add the .jpg (dot jpeg) to complete the link below.

http://images.wikia.com/wikiality/images/2/27/CollarBomb

mixed with what to me appears to be a mob of zombies.

Seriously, that is the scariest fucking shit I've seen in a long time. That mob...you know, I've never been in support of riot suppression until I saw this. Flash those fuckers with those microwave cannons / taser cannons. Those people are fucking insane.

understand how a certain percentage of the black population are not mentally whole.

If you mean we should understand why they want revenge, that would make sense, except that these are black immigrants who are being attacked, not white elites.

Going without food for a week (often) does not provide for good growth and mental health.

Living with constant fear of police bashing down your door in the middle of the night, does not contribute to mental balance and good social adjustment.

I fear for the children of Iraq going through the same terror and lack of nutrition. The effects will be felt for years to come.

Did you know that some of the food that was eaten by Lucky Dube when he was growing up was goat droppings.

visited on many Americans at many times in history past as well as the present, I am sorry but I don't agree that such will make someone mentally disturbed to the point that they cannot be trusted, many factors including genetics are a contributing factor with genetics being the strongest link in my opinion.


I don't agree that poor diet will disable someone from being able to act with intelligence.....


That scenario can limit one's ability to change things as easily as those without those worries but what your inferring I cannot and do not agree with to a point where all would be effected in the same way, bottom line is that some people are just stronger than others when dealing with such stressful and health related issues than others...

I once watched a documentary on people in Africa, some of those interviewed not only looked like they hadn't eaten in weeks but looked on the verge of dying and yet what they spoke was direct and eloquent and heart breaking all at the same time...

You limit individuals and nations of people with such accusations not proven...

Anyone can write a book, such does not mean the conclusion said author comes up with is the gospel truth.

It was written by a black who grew up in South Africa and the story of how and what they survived.

After watching a documentary you can surmise what the lack of good nutrition does to the developing brain? Have you ever met any children who have grown up under those circumstances?

There are countless medical studies that support the necessity of good nutrition in children.

"Poverty reduction (MDG 1) is hampered by reduced physical and mental capacity of adults, largely caused by poor growth and nutrition in childhood that cannot be easily reversed. Reduced cognitive ability associated with stunting and lack of proper infant feeding, measurable in lower scores on IQ tests, leads to reduced productivity and earnings across the course of life. Switching one low birthweight infant to non-low birthweight status yields almost US$1000 in benefits over a lifetime. With about 20 million low birthweight children born every year in developing countries, the costs of doing nothing adds up to around US$20 billion a year among those that survive. Anaemic adults are also less productive with estimated losses of up to 2% of GDP in the worst affected countries."

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:UFLRSJe5zHsJ:www.unsystem.org/SCN/Publications/ecosoc/RS6%2520SCNECOSOC.doc+mental+development+young+nutrition&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us&client=firefox-a

think of it this way, you are not born knowing how to read and write, nor can you learn without being taught, if there is no one to teach you, how can you learn? In poor countries it is obvious that survival is taught first such as being taught how to grow your own food, learn what you can eat and what you should not....

The other night after watching another show about gloom and doom scenarios regarding what could wipe out this world on the discovery channel such as asteroids, earthquakes etc I realized something and put it to my husband...

Do you believe that if such a catastrophe occurred and you could not go out to your local grocery store to buy the food you would need for nourishment would you be able to find in the natural elements what would be healthy enough to eat to keep you alive?

Would you be able to go without air conditioning due to the fact that you no longer have electricity and not simply wither away from either a heat wave or icy cold temps, whatever the case may be???



When we think of people in third world like countries, we believe them to be ignorant and unable to care for themselves and so on and so on...

But if we in such a progressive country were forced to live in similar circumstances do you honestly believe you could easily adapt because you know what two plus two is????



I believe that those people in third world countries, unused to being so catered to would be able to survive much easier than you or I, we might be book smarter and perhaps know geography better but they have been taught from birth survival in ways you nor I could ever comprehend, I don't think that college teaches one to survive without amenities, just because one is book smart does not always mean one could function in a world so completely changed..

There are many types of intelligence, and anyone can learn, well most everyone, and again, I don't believe the stats are accurate enough to be taken seriously or anything other than it is, a sort of racist bias, its pretty obvious that is the intent if you ask me...

"Do you believe that if such a catastrophe occurred and you could not go out to your local grocery store to buy the food you would need for nourishment would you be able to find in the natural elements what would be healthy enough to eat to keep you alive?"

The blacks in South Africa did that when they were able, i.e. find food for themselves. But those who lived in townships, were restricted to those areas because of pass laws. Please read the book "Kaffir Book" to get an understanding. I remember after my wedding (we invited some black friends), one of them stuffed all of the leftover food into her large handbag to take back to the township with her, when we provided her with the ride as well. There was no transportation for her other than to walk.

Domestic servants, who live in tiny homes on the property of whites, or who had to travel long hours to and from the townships to get to work, were given food that could only contribute to health problems - diabetes, etc. Things such as white bread, white sugar, condensed milk, canned foods, etc. Then when they got ill, they could not afford to go to a doctor. When I got to the point of providing food as an adult, I gave our once-a-week help when we were both working, meat and vegetables.

"Would you be able to go without air conditioning due to the fact that you no longer have electricity and not simply wither away from either a heat wave or icy cold temps, whatever the case may be???"

I NEVER use air-conditioning NOW either in winter or summer. I grew up that way and I continue that way as an adult. Do you use air-conditioning? Quelle Horreur!

Your attitude is very holier-than-thou and preachy when you don't know what you are talking about.

It's almost amusing that so many believe we are more evolved and superior to animals. Almost.

Julie

Re potential consequences for reporting the truth about any number of high level Bushco crimes.

and when things get bad enough in our own economy, I'm terrified that things of this nature (such as those descriptions in the article you've linked to) will be seen, more and more, as the system that controls us ramps up the hatred against anyone who is different, "doesn't belong", or might seem to be "competing" in our fight for survival.

In their desperation, the rioters in SA are misdirecting their anger.

going on for decades.

It is an example of the fucked up nature of man.

It is so terrible and so horrible and so unjustified.

I Recommended your OP because ugliness should not be hidden.

It must be stopped.

this murder.

Makes a rusty knife beheading seem humane.

What exactly is the point of this post?