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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:34 PM
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Why do Republicans hate all Democrats?
My husband came home from work today and asked me that. He said he didn't think Democrats HATED Republicans...at least not nearly as much. I honestly didn't know what to tell him. I know SOME specific Pubs, like the fundies, hate Dems because they believe all Dems are evil and do the work of the devil, but what about the rest of them?
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dubeskin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:37 PM
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1. I've always found it's not ME, it's what I BELIEVE
Usually I've found they don't hate Democrats, in general, but their values; equality, peace, freedom, and justice. They hate those because they have been so influence in their minds, as have we, in a certain belief that it's their way or the highway, and they don't like someone trying to change what they perceive as correct and right.
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angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:38 PM
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scapegoating
conservatives are all about passing the blame.

If something is going wrong it must be someone else's fault.

Conservatives never make mistakes, just ask them.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:38 PM
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2. I hate Republicans
I live in Kansas where they have turned our great state into a laughing stock. I really truly hate the GOP. I don't understand why any sane person would want to belong to that party.
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:31 AM
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24. Just remember
People can change their ways.

It's rare, but it does happen. ;)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 09:28 AM
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30. They have had decades to do so
I ain't holding my breath.

I first started hating them in 1960. They have only gotten worse since then.
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 10:50 AM
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39. I only got around to it last year
but then, I'm only 26. ;)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 11:24 AM
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42. And you are a smart 26 year old
My youngest just turned 25. When Nixon died, I sat my kids down and told them the TV coverage of his funeral was perfect proof that they could never trust their media, Nixon was a horrible man and was surely burning in hell as his fans adored him here on earth.
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DAGDA56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:40 PM
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3. The answer to your question will be very important in November, since
we will likely be asking Republicans to vote for a Democratic Candidate. All Republicans are not the same any more than all Democrats are the same, although the basic Republican mindset does seem more comfortable conforming. That's what Conservatives do.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:40 PM
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4. They think we are stealing their money
and giving it away to lazy people. They say that Democrats tax and spend - they see no benefit to social programs and have a punitive attitude towards anyone who needs help. (Not to mention that they are the real reckless spenders, and give tax breaks to people who don't need them.)

They really think human beings should be totally isolated from one another except for the "nuclear" family.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:10 PM
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12. Yep, that's it. I hear it from them all the time. And yet, so many are Christians!
That's the thing that blows my mind. From what I understand, Jesus helped everyone. He didn't give anyone a morality sniff test first. I don't even think he cared if they were lazy. He helped the thieves, didn't he? Republicans are very confused people.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:14 PM
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13. They have a really distorted view of the Bible
The Hebrew tradition of family is the extended related family. The New Testament has Jesus - an unmarried man, hanging around with a bunch of men and women and treating everyone as family.

The fundie nuclear family - heterosexual marriage plus children as the only lifestyle - is the privatized family. Project Republican ideas into theology.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 09:48 AM
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37. When confronted with the inconsistency between Jesus' attitude
and theirs, they insist it is the government involvement is all they protest. But then they would have to give great amounts to charity for it to be consistent. And most of them do not. That's when it comes out they would just be "rewarding laziness."

Some of them honestly believe that you can always find a bottom level job and work your way up. And since that's all you have to do, it must be "laziness" that causes poverty.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 12:21 PM
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44. And I hear that from them, too.
Sure, there will probably always be a certain percentage of "layabouts" but I think conservatives are disillusioned about just how easy it is to "pull yourself up" for a whole lot of people for whom laziness has nothing to do with their situation. It works fine when you have only yourself to take care of, are in good health physically and mentally and have some skill levels in an occupational field you can aim for that pays well. Even then, there must be available jobs in that field. Any combination of these factors (and others I haven't mentioned) can cause people to be trapped in poverty. Because they were generally lucky, and faced none or few of these circumstances, many conservatives believe everyone else will have it as easy when this simply isn't true. I think it's simply a case of not being able or willing to put yourself in another's shoes. In other words, kind of un-Christian. :shrug:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:48 PM
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47. Exactly, they are lucky and have this pathetic belief that no ill
can ever happen to them. They are truly deluded. The reason they get so upset and emotional is the idea that bad luck could come to them. They know it can, and seek to deny it.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:57 PM
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21. What money?
After almost eight years of Bush, they don't have any of that left -- just like the rest of us.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 09:46 AM
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35. That's a good summary. They believe there should be no
such thing as society and that everyone should be on their own. Oddly, they expect loyalty to the country in return, even though, by their lights, it is a country that owes nothing to its citizens. Yet its citizens should be willing to give their lives for it.

But we are not to be protected from damage to the environment or any lack of education or healthcare that the market might cause, because that is just an attempt for the "liberals" to gain totalitarian, police-state powers. However, we should be protected from immigrants and terrorists, regardless of how much government intrusion that would require.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:42 PM
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5. Republicans hate everyone. They were born
means spirited. They don't like each other.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:44 PM
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6. Because in the Repuke Rule Book, for the last15 years...
It has been made clear that all rank & file repukes must form their world view from the words of Limbaugh, Boortz, Hannity, Beck, Coulter, Savage and the lesser but even more rabid lights of repuke polemicists.

Add to that the knowledge they have that 3.5 years ago they were seriously talking about and expecting political primacy in the US for 2-3 generations and now, they may be walking the wilderness for that long, and you have some screwed-up and bitter folks. It's especially bad in the really young ones who have quaffed the repuke nepenthe'. Some of them truly scare me.

Lately, many of the repukes have taken to calling anyone they disagree with a "commie". As if most of them even know and could explain what communism is and what it stands for. We have a large sub-generation of very confused and screwed-up people that are gonna be left over from the last eight years, and they are not to be dismissed lightly. Some of these people are definitely potential trouble. Do not discount them out of hand.
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 08:05 PM
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14. That's so right.
I was discussing politics with this young Republican once, and I said: "Are we talking about communism or atheism?" He said: "Aren't they the same thing?" I said: "Communism is a belief that the people should own the means of production." He stared at me blankly. He obviously had no idea communism had anything to do with economics. The intellectual vapidity of these people is astounding.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:50 PM
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7. I don't think they do.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:54 PM
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8. I asked hubby what makes him think they HATE all the Dems?
Apparently he's been listening to the likes of Neil Boortz & Rushbo when he's driving to & from work. Then of course there's the typical Pub guest on TV, all of whom really DO spew HATE. I can't catagorize it as anything else when things like "The presidency really ages people quickly, and I don't want to watch some old woman age in office", or the various criticisms of Hillary's voice or laugh, or clothes. I've also seen a lot of hateful posts directed at Dems in general on the few times I'm ventured over to the Freeper site.

It does seem to me that most of the nasty comments I see posted by the Dems are usually directed toward Shrub, or one of his idiot appointees, but not at all Pubs in general.
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:00 PM
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9. Why is hubby listening to these evil folks
while driving? Very risky behavior. :-)
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:04 PM
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11. Well, we live in Ga. There is NO pregressive radio here! Then
he also listens to Clark Howard the consumer advocate who's on the same station. Unfortunately, he's sandwiched in between the two AH's.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 09:52 AM
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38. Exactly. They disagree with Hillary, so they so no alternative but
to personally hate her.

They can't just disagree. They have to judge the person who disagrees.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:04 PM
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10. It's easy
In their mind, Democrat = Liberal, and the corporate media, the GOP, the right-wing Christians have very carefully taught them of the last 40 years or so to hate liberals. In fact, in their world, anything they don't like is "liberal."

I remember one time when I was teaching -- in college -- we were having a discussion and I tried to make a point by putting some statistics on the board. One student slammed her book shut and shouted, "Well, those look like liberal numbers to me." In other words, she rejected the point I was saying, but had no argument, so she attacked the statistics as "liberal."

Remember, George Bush, the elder fascist, once got up and gave a speech which consisted pretty much of just repeating "liberal, liberal, liberal" over and over.

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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 08:13 PM
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15. The bottom line is fear.
Hate is almost always a by-product of fear, and these are very fearful people. They are attracted to authoritarianism in all it's forms, because they want Big Daddy to keep them safe. The irony is, they rage against big government, while supporting it's most wasteful and expensive manifestations: the military and corporate welfare. They pretend they are all about individual freedom and rugged individualism, while voting for every kind of socially oppressive legislation. They have no integrity, no real vision; they just believe whatever their chosen authority figure shouts at them, and deeply resent anyone who wants them to look at evidence and think.
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 08:40 PM
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16. I hate Republicans, well, I hate the Republican Party.
I hate their principle (or lack thereof) and every single thing they stand for. Some Republicans are okay as people but they are complete deluded if they really believe in their party platform.
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 08:56 PM
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17. This left-radical, anarcho-syndicalist loathes all republicans equally...
Edited on Sat May-24-08 08:59 PM by warren pease
I'm an equal opportunity GOPiggie despiser. And I hold these truths to be self-evident.

That there are only a few reasons for anyone to be a republican.

That those reasons are the result of pathologies, massive character defects or sheer unmitigated ignorance -- often all three.

That these motivations include greed, self-interest, intellectual laziness, a fixation on tax cuts for billionaires, raging misanthropy, religious insanity, racism, bigotry, xenophobia, a fear-based world view, a mind destroyed by PR and advertising and pure, uncompromising, willful, ignorant, unlimited stupidity of a kind rarely on display in the modern world.

That all these motivating factors, and certainly dozens of others equally reprehensible, are attributes of the absolute worst the human species has to offer.

That for humanity to survive, for the innocent species around us to thrive and for the earth and its people to ever achieve some semblance of peace, serenity, collective decency and sustainability, these traits -- and the people who typify and even exalt in them -- must disappear from any positions of influence, whether economic, political, military, institutional or doctrinal.

That their loss will be unmourned.

That their disappearance from the levers of power will result in a gigantic exhalation of relief on the part of all but the economically advantaged top .5 percent of the world's population.

That their disappearance will give the rest of us at least a fighting chance to curb global climate chaos, end militarism and empire building, establish genuine peace by recognizing the commonalities among races and ethnic groups rather than emphasizing the differences and using them to divide and conquer.

I could go on, but you probably get the point.

In closing, yes indeed: I absolutely despise every last one of the fuckers and their overnight and permanent disappearance from the face of the earth should be the source of the greatest possible joy and optimism for anyone not a member of the hedge-fund class.

Your mileage, of course, may vary with your personal level of detestation.

wp
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:06 PM
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18. It's nothing personal, just
the effect of some chemical or other that their handlers dropped into their Kool Aide.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:14 PM
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19. They are easily influenced by the propaganda they listen to.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:45 PM
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20. they don't, people are never monolithic. there'll always be exceptions.
the other part you are worrying about deals with a cult mentality due to an exploitation of some really evil sociopaths using psychology and propaganda techniques to abuse a vulnerable portion of the population (authoritarian personalities) as a bulwark and guard dogs to get what the sociopaths want. it's a sick symbiotic relationship.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:13 AM
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22. They are the party of ignorance and closed minds...
...something I hope the Democrats can try a bit harder to overcome.

Republicans fear Democrats will ruin their concept of the US by introducing such socialism as universal health care.
They are against free choice (abortion) and believe it is criminal or at least sin.
They hate homosexuality, and fear the Democrats will somehow unleash a wave of gayness over the US, more sin.
They are convinced the Democrats will confiscate all the legally owned guns in the US, and institute a military/police state with no righte.
(From some of what I have read on this site, I give some credence to this one.)

They believe anyone other than their own small religious group is wrong, on a scale ranging from honestly misguided to satan incarnate. They tend to put catholics closer to the satanic end of things, athiests, Jews, etc off ths scale.

Remember their political/religious leaders have encouraged these ideas and a lot more nonsense in order to foster their own ends/carreers/weatth/power. Look at Neut, Rush, Trent,lots of other strangely named fellows.
Their leaders encourage fear and ignorance.
FWIW, I am a very pro gun third generation Democrat. I have spent a lot of time on some gun forums that can be very right wing.
Some folks are actively stockpiling food, bottled water, etc as insurance against the disruptive social upheaval they sincerely believe will come when a Democrat (especially Obama) is elected President.

I also want to state that this is my first encounter in many years with "progressive" Democrats in large numbers, and I find similar arrogance and closed mindedness here.
But I paid a few bucks to be here, and I'ss stick around till I feel like I got my money's worth.

mark
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:28 AM
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23. two generations of propaganda
and we are set for a hot civil war...
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 05:41 AM
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25. They're all repressed gays. They're turned on by Democrats but can't deal with it.
Edited on Sun May-25-08 05:43 AM by Perry Logan
Gay is beautiful, but the repression messes things up totally--and you wind up with a Republican.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 05:46 AM
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26. LOL
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 06:36 AM
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27. Intellectual laziness
If you prefer to have someone else do your thinking for you (Fox, National Hate Radio),
you let someone else define your mind-set. The radical right tells you non-stop of all the
dangers out there, and why you need them to protect you from them. If you let fear guide
your way of thinking, all you see is threats, and Republicans say that they see those
threats, too, and want to combat them. If you don't see threats everywhere you go, then
you are far less vulnerable to fear-mongering, and thus far less susceptible to Republican
propaganda. Ergo, you are less likely to be one.

But if you are not consumed by fear, and are thus not watching for threats over your shoulder
everywhere you go, then the Republican who IS consumed by fear sees you as someone who is willing
to stand idly by while the threat (that they see) comes to attack them/us. Osama bin Laden is on
every street corner. Niel Boortz said so. You are willing to let fellow Americans die for your
disbelief? How dare you?

Of course people like that hate you. They extrapolate on a mind-set, and suddenly the mere fact
that you are a Democrat means, by projection, that you want them and their family to meet with
disease, famine and violent death. No wonder they hate us.

Sounds a little far fetched, doesn't it? But I have heard some bits and pieces of National
Hate Radio when I'm back in the States, and anyone who swallows that stuff is perfectly
capable of hating someone who thinks differently.
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BlueCollar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 07:48 AM
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28. It's a normal psychological response.
Republicans are generally insecure, selfish and ignorant. As a result they feel threatened by anyone who has a greater degree of intellectual agility.

The only way they can respond is to lash out.

Started in the late seventies and is perpetuated every day by Faux news and right-wing radio.
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kitfalbo Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 08:00 AM
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29. Simple answer
From a reug at work.

"You can't have morals if you don't believe in god."


They don't believe we worship "their" god, and since that is the god that matters to them we all have no morals and are therefore less than human and they wish to treat us so.

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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 11:03 AM
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41. It Also Demonstrates
...a disturbing level of misanthropy & self-hate. What, humans by themselves are not good enough to have any morals which haven't been placed in them by their invisible superhero who lives in outer space? That's pathetic.


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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 09:34 AM
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31. Fear is the path to the dark side
Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

Yoda was a Democrat.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 09:40 AM
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Repukes cannot separate ideas from people
They believe that if you do not agree to their party line, it can't be just disagreement, it has to be some sort of moral failing. They judge others personally for not having the "right" opinions.

If someone believes in universal health care, for example, right wingers insist on seeing it as "stealing" their money to give to people who were too lazy to get health insurance for themselves. Therefore, if you want to do that, you must be immoral. Therefore, they judge you personally as inadequate for taking that "immoral" stance.

They also see things in black and white. If you have any compassion for prisoners, for example, they cannot separate that out from condemnation for their acts, but insist on seeing it as supporting the acts that got the prisoner in prison. Obviously, anyone who does that could not be a good person.

Another thing they believe is that no one can think for themselves. Since we are immoral and evil people, when we "spout" our horrible immoral opinions, others hear them and are defenseless, therefore, we spread this poison. We are therefore dangerous, so they are justified, in their minds, in hating us.
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democratdoug Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 09:40 AM
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32. because we are always right..
lol
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 09:48 AM
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36. lol good one, and welcome to DU
:hi:
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Kip Humphrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 09:44 AM
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33. They are told to hate Democrats and liberals over & over & over by their authoritarian overlords.
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 09:46 AM
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34. Many reasons
I am speaking generally because not every republican thinks the same way or at least I hope so. They like sameness while democrats prize individuality. Most of the republicans I know think if you are laid off or poor it is your fault. You are lazy or didn't prepare for emergencies nor do they take into account people go through their savings. They disdain any social program unless someone they know needs it.

They talk about small government but deny how big the government has become under republican mismanagement. Republicans think a democrat having an affair should be burned at the stake but a republican doing the same deserves punishment. They take Reagan's 11th commandment seriously unless it gets so bad they can't deny wrong doing any longer.

Most fundies are republicans-enough said.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 10:53 AM
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40. Because they are gullible, cowardly, brainwashed idiots.
They vote against their interests because of republican propaganda.

Propaganda works best on stupid, cowardly people.

In other words, your typical republican.

I don't hate them. I pity them.
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usaftmo Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 11:51 AM
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43. Several reasons
Edited on Sun May-25-08 11:54 AM by usaftmo
1) They feel any position other than their own is wrong. In other words, they hate us for our open-mindedness

2) Anything different from their view is unpatriotic/supporting the terrorists

3) They believe in the-rich-get-richer while everyone-else-gets-poorer

4) They present the illusion of being pro-life, but once that child is born they don't give a damn. It seems like they're pro-birth! (someone else on this site came up with that; not me)

5) We understand that being gay isn't contagious, and thus don't get offended by it (related to # 1)

6) We aren't xenophobic

7) We don't believe that being gay transforms into bestiality

8) We don't believe that a person needs an automatic weapon or RPG to go hunting

9) We don't think an instant/rushed background check to buy a weapon is good enough

10) We don't believe that all our problems will vanish by: everyone registering/owning a gun, no limits on the quantity/caliber of guns owned, and getting rid of the "illegal" immigrants
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 12:32 PM
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45. They're jealous.....
They would be Democrats too if they could figure out how it's done!! ;)
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 12:34 PM
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46. We stand in the way of their doing anything they want...
...without responsibility or accountability.

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:52 PM
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48. That's horseshit
I met a very unusual person last night - A lesbian who described herself as a conservative Republican. She doesn't hate anybody for their political beliefs.
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49. I don't think that they all do
some of them might,I know a lot of republicans,and have some in my family. We all get along well.They respect me and I respect them.
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