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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:28 PM
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I Have Two Words For The Media Defending Their Conduct: Ashleigh Banfield...
Edited on Wed May-28-08 09:31 PM by BlooInBloo
In the run-up to the war, Banfield was one of the only journalists to seriously question what was going on.

The result? She was professionally offed - kicked out of the profession. Digby wrote an extraordinary (her usual) piece about it. It's been talked about here in the past, but I thought it was especially relevant to recall it in light of Scotty's revelations, and the press' reaction.

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2007/04/truths-consequences-by-digby-since.html


Truth's Consequences

...
But very shortly after the invasion of Iraq --- even before Codpiece Day --- Banfield delivered a speech that destroyed her career. She was instantly demoted by MSNBC and fired less than a year later.

Do you remember what she said?

...
I think we all were very excited about the beginnings of this conflict in terms of what we could see for the first time on television. The embedded process, which I'll get into a little bit more in a few moments, was something that we've never experienced before, neither as reporters nor as viewers. The kinds of pictures that we were able to see from the front lines in real time on a video phone, and sometimes by a real satellite link-up, was something we'd never seen before and were witness to for the first time.
...
That said, what didn't you see? You didn't see where those bullets landed. You didn't see what happened when the mortar landed. A puff of smoke is not what a mortar looks like when it explodes, believe me. There are horrors that were completely left out of this war. So was this journalism or was this coverage-? There is a grand difference between journalism and coverage, and getting access does not mean you're getting the story, it just means you're getting one more arm or leg of the story. And that's what we got, and it was a glorious, wonderful picture that had a lot of people watching and a lot of advertisers excited about cable news. But it wasn't journalism, because I'm not so sure that we in America are hesitant to do this again, to fight another war, because it looked like a glorious and courageous and so successful terrific endeavor, and we got rid oaf horrible leader: We got rid of a dictator, we got rid of a monster, but we didn't see what it took to do that.


She may have been hoping for a future in able news, but you can't help but feel she knew she wouldn't after delivering those remarks. (Read the whole thing at the link if you're interested in a further scathing critique of the government.)

Perhaps someone with more stature than Banfield could have gotten away with that speech and maybe it might have even been taken seriously, who knows? But the object lesson could not have been missed by any of the ambitious up and comers in the news business. If a TV journalist publicly spoke the truth anywhere about war, the news, even their competitors --- and Banfield spoke the truth in that speech --- their career was dead in the water. Even the girl hero of 9/11 (maybe especially the girl hero of 9/11) could not get away with breaking the CW code of omerta and she had to pay.

She's now a co-anchor on a Court TV show.



There's just too much good in Banfield's speech to quote without breaking the rules even more egregiously than I already have. Read it yourself, and keep it in mind when you hear the media defending their conduct in the run-up to the war.

http://www.k-state.edu/media/newsreleases/landonlect/banfieldtext403.html


EDIT: Linky didn't worky. :(
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:32 PM
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1. She does "Hollywood Heat" now
Though it's nice she still makes a living it is such a waste of talent and of a mind. I remember reading that speech on Smirking Chimp at the time and I was so grateful. She's young. Let's hope that she gets back into something more substantive. I get so angry when Tweety or others act like they would have said anything to buck the status quo. Where were they when Ashley needed them?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:33 PM
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2. You're so right to evoke her at this time.
And don't forget the departure of Phil Donahue.
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:46 PM
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8. Over the interview with Rosie O'Donnel
Remember her powerful hard hitting statement - "Come on, killing people is wrong - haven't we figured that out yet?". After that statement was uttered, Donahue was gone. Never did another show.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:55 PM
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13. Yep, flushed down the toilet while in the midst of good ratings at the time.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:34 PM
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3. Same thing happened to Christiane Amanpour.
Edited on Wed May-28-08 09:44 PM by Auntie Bush
Edited to add link to one story about her ridiculing the press.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/columnist/mediamix/2003-09-14-media-mix_x.htm
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:35 PM
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4. her Algae Award gets more hits than all others combined
see link below. The entire speech is there, along with some commentary
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:40 PM
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6. Cool - I wasn't aware of those - thanks!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:39 PM
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5. Excellent example--they weren't all duped by any means, it's just that those who were
found themselves un-or under-employed. I always wondered why Bernard Shaw left CNN--I know it was supposed to be voluntary but considering what happened to CNN after he left, well--I guess I'm just a suspicious sort.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:27 PM
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16. Yes, why did Bernard Shaw leave CNN? Didn't Frank Sesno leave at about the same time?
I'm not trying to hijack this thread. I was always a big Ashleigh Banfield fan.

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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:34 PM
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18. No they weren't duped, because some newspapers got it right and it was acknowledge
Edited on Wed May-28-08 10:36 PM by dmr
John Walcott, Jonathan Landay and Warren Strobel of Knight Ridder newspapers (now McClatchy) - they got it right!

This was written in 2004. Nearly 4 years ago. In 2003, the NY Times recognized the Knight-Ridder reporters that did have it right. Even so, despite this, our MSM still did not follow in the Knight-Rider foot-steps. There was time enough for the so-called journalists to make amends to this nation. Instead, we continued with more lies from the WH, more MSM enabling, more deaths, more injuries and more money spent.

These men are real journalists. Even with the WH threats to shut them out, they got their information the old fashioned, and probably the most reliable way, by digging deep for their stories.

http://www.ajr.org/article_printable.asp?id=3725
From AJR, August/September 2004 issue
Going It Alone

Accolades now come to Knight Ridder for its prescient reports expressing skepticism about claims that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

By Steve Ritea
Ritea is a reporter for New Orleans' Times-Picayune

When the New York Times apologized to readers May 26 for not being "more aggressive" in examining the administration's decision to invade Iraq, editors couldn't help but give a nod to a less-vaunted news organization that had been beating the Times on the story for some time: Knight Ridder's Washington bureau.

The contrast in coverage was stark at times. On September 8, 2002, the Times proclaimed in a front-page headline, "U.S. Says Hussein Intensified Quest for A-Bomb Parts." Knight Ridder had two days earlier proclaimed, "Lack of hard evidence of Iraqi weapons worries top U.S. officials." Knight Ridder continued with headlines like "Troubling questions over justification for war in Iraq" and "Failure to find weapons in Iraq leads to intelligence scrutiny," even as most other major media outlets sang a tune more in line with the Bush administration.

It wasn't until February that Michael Massing bestowed some of the first accolades on Knight Ridder, writing in The New York Review of Books: "Almost alone among national news organizations, Knight Ridder had decided to take a hard look at the administration's justifications for war."

A few weeks earlier, Knight Ridder Washington reporters Warren Strobel and Jonathan Landay received the Raymond Clapper Memorial award from the Senate Press Gallery for their coverage of the sketchy intelligence used to justify war with Iraq.

For about a year-and-a-half, the pair had filed compelling stories on the issue and, on many occasions, it seemed like they were banging the drum alone. It wasn't until earlier this year, when it became increasingly apparent Hussein had not been stockpiling weapons of mass destruction, that other news outlets grew more critical of the administration.

Strobel says their conclusions came from a lot of extra digging and source-building they were forced to do without the red-carpet access to high-level officials that some of the nation's top media outlets enjoy.

"Knight Ridder is not, in some people's eyes, seen as playing in the same ball field as the New York Times and some major networks," Strobel says. "People at the Times were mainly talking to senior administration officials, who were mostly pushing the administration line. We were mostly talking to the lower-level people or dissidents, who didn't necessarily repeat the party line."

Those sources, Knight Ridder Washington Editor Clark Hoyt adds, were "closest to the information."

"I'm not saying we didn't have any top-level sources," Strobel says, "but we also made a conscious effort to talk to people more in the bowels of government who have a less political approach to things."

Their effort paid off in the fall of 2002, when a story critical of the administration's case for war generated a small, but encouraging, response. "We got two or three unsolicited calls from people in government saying, 'You're asking the right questions. Keep it up,'" Landay recalls.

With three of Knight Ridder's newspapers in cities with military bases providing a large number of troops for the war — Lexington, Kentucky; Macon, Georgia; and Fort Worth, Texas — Landay says the chain had a special obligation to the story.

At first, Hoyt says, Knight Ridder papers gave Landay and Strobel's stories inconsistent play. But "as time went by, the play got better and better."

And the heat, hotter.

"As the pressure built on the administration and their case got shakier and shakier, there was obviously a lot greater stress, and there was some shouting that was done at us over the telephone," Hoyt says. Some of those calls came from well-known names in high places, Bureau Chief John Walcott adds, declining to drop any names.

Around that time, the White House turned up the pressure, Strobel says, and "tried to freeze us out of briefings."

Landay adds: "I think this administration may have a fairly punitive policy when it comes to journalists who get in their face. And if you talk to some White House reporters, there is a fear of losing access." He says that fear may have played into the relatively uncritical approach of news organizations like the Times.

Another likely factor in that equation were the calls for national unity following the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington. "Many other news organizations were willing to give the administration the benefit of the doubt, particularly in the post-9/11 environment," Strobel says. "We were not."

- snip -

"Anytime the nation is about to go to war and commit itself to something that drastic, there ought to be a full and open examination of a case and everything ought to be out there for people to see and make judgements about," Hoyt says. "That really was not the case here."

"I think the failure of the media in general in covering this story," Landay says, "is as egregious as the intelligence failure."


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Batgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:44 PM
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7. That and the Digby piece are both well worth rereading.
More analysis of Bush's media enablers here:
http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair06122007.html

"The war on Iraq won't be remembered for how it was waged so much as for how it was sold. It was a propaganda war, a war of perception management, where loaded phrases, such as "weapons of mass destruction" and "rogue state" were hurled like precision weapons at the target audience: us.

To understand the Iraq war you don't need to consult generals, but the spin doctors and PR flacks who stage-managed the countdown to war from the murky corridors of Washington where politics, corporate spin and psy-ops spooks cohabit.

>>>snip<<<<

The Bush claque of neocon hawks viewed the Iraq war as a product and, just like a new pair of Nikes, it required a roll-out campaign to soften up the consumers. The same techniques (and often the same PR gurus) that have been used to hawk cigarettes, SUVs and nuclear waste dumps were deployed to retail the Iraq war. To peddle the invasion, Donald Rumsfeld and Colin Powell and company recruited public relations gurus into top-level jobs at the Pentagon and the State Department. These spinmeisters soon had more say over how the rationale for war on Iraq should be presented than intelligence agencies and career diplomats. If the intelligence didn't fit the script, it was shaded, retooled or junked.

Take Charlotte Beers whom Powell picked as undersecretary of state in the post-9/11 world. Beers wasn't a diplomat. She wasn't even a politician. She was a grand diva of spin, known on the business and gossip pages as "the queen of Madison Avenue." On the strength of two advertising campaigns, one for Uncle Ben's Rice and another for Head and Shoulder's dandruff shampoo, Beers rocketed to the top of the heap in the PR world, heading two giant PR houses: Ogilvy and Mathers as well as J. Walter Thompson.

>>>>snip<<<<

Tens of millions in federal money were poured into private public relations and media firms working to craft and broadcast the Bush dictat that Saddam had to be taken out before the Iraqi dictator blew up the world by dropping chemical and nuclear bombs from long-range drones. Many of these PR executives and image consultants were old friends of the high priests in the Bush inner sanctum. Indeed, they were veterans, like Cheney and Powell, of the previous war against Iraq, another engagement that was more spin than combat .

>>>snip<<<<

Few newspapers fanned the hysteria about the threat posed by Saddam's weapons of mass destruction as sedulously as did the Washington Post. In the months leading up to the war, the Post's pro-war op-eds outnumbered the anti-war columns by a 3-to-1 margin.


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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:47 PM
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9. Hat's off to Ashleigh Banfield...
Edited on Wed May-28-08 09:49 PM by Mr_Jefferson_24
... no blood on her hands, her soul and journalist's credentials intact.

Here's to hoping REAL journalists will one day make a comeback and become commonplace working in mainstream media -- for now they've been selected for extinction.

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:53 PM
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10. Yup - one of the very few with clean hands.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:54 PM
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11. oh hell yeah, i'll be the fifth rec. Ashleigh Banfield was/is my personal hero!
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:54 PM
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12. Phil Donahue
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:08 PM
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14. Yes, both Ashleigh AND Phil!
K&R!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:16 PM
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15. Didn't mean to specifically *exclude* Phil, of course. Was just focussed her.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:36 PM
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19. and Helen Thomas
It's fun watching the hacks expose themselves and their executives. This is a feast.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:32 PM
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17. The Savage Weiner said something really nasty about her when he had his very short lived show
on MSNBC, he might have had something to do with her getting canned.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:39 PM
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20. Yah - it's mentioned in her speech.
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:06 PM
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21. Take Dave Gregory off the air and replace with Ashleigh Banfield.
Then MSNBC might not fall in the revolution.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:19 PM
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22. Yup, or any of a number of others.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:11 AM
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23. She was very brave, a bit naive, but honest and intent on learning as much
Edited on Thu May-29-08 12:25 AM by ConsAreLiars
as she could and sharing it. She did some good pieces on the cultures and societies she visited. Not demonizing them, but trying to understand them.

The warmongering corporate monsters like GE-NBC saw her and Donahue as a threat to the profits and took the only bottom-line-is-our-only-morality action possible and shut her down.

Edit to add the obvious: Very few of those traits are worth much when it comes to hiring/promoting decisions by the corporate golems. Maybe naiveté, but only when it comes in the form of gullibility and subservience.
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