Scott McClellan is a damn hero!

It took guts and fortitude to come forward and reveal what really happened during
the Bush Administration.

He risked everything. He risked being completely dragged through the mud, and being
ripped to shred. He did it anyway.

People who complain that McClellan should have come forward earlier, are missing
the point.

Give the man credit for daring to come forward and for so eloquently describing what
it was like to interact with Bush, and what went on behind the scenes.

McClellan validates what Progressives have said all along. He's demonstrating--as
an insider--that the Progressives have always been right about the Bush Administration,
and that the Administration is a bunch of lying thugs.

Furthermore, McClellan validates that the neocon plan is real. What those bastards
wrote on their "hiding-in-plain-sight" PNAC Web site--was not a joke. It was the mantra
of BushCo. They feel entitled to dominate the world militarily--in the name of spreading
freedom and democracy.

McClellan is telling us that the neocons are for real.

My guess is that he saw a need to put a stop to this game--once and for all. His revelations
hurt McCain--by demonstrating that Iraq was a lie-based farce. This helps Obama--and shows
that he was right from day one--when Obama gave his infamous Iraq-war speech.

I always say to my children, "It's not what you did. It's what you learned." I think it's
obvious that McClellan is a good man, who learned that it is important to step forward and
speak out against injustice.

I applaud McClellan and I think he is a true American hero.

Christ.

this shit is surreal

I picked his book up today and am going to start reading right after Countdown.

I never thought I'de live to see the day I would
say that I am proud of Scott McClellan.

McClellan is not a stupid man. If you knew they were lying then, so did he.

:thumbsup:

I think he just decided he couldn't live with being so associated with the wrong side of history.

Ultimately he has clarified much, added some important details and reasserted many falsehoods.

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Bush Reelect eCampaign Director:"McClellan savaged for saying what everyone knows to be true"

Source: Open Left

Bush Reelect eCampaign Director:"McClellan savaged for saying what everyone knows to be true"

by: Matt Stoller
Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:21

Feeling for Scott McLellan. Nice getting savaged for saying what everyone knows to be true anyway.
That was Bush-Cheney 2004 eCampaign Director Mike Turk, 16 hours ago on his Twitter feed.

Twitter is a social network that limits people's messages to 140 characters. The thoughts are partial, groggy, sometimes witty, useful, casual. And so Turk, who worked at the RNC after the reelection of Bush and then for the cable industry, is tossing off what has pervaded the mid-level operative class of the Republican Party.

Matt Stoller :: Bush Reelect eCampaign Director:"McClellan savaged for saying what everyone knows to be true"



Read more: http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do ;jsessionid=1270BE81437C7FE6206C425958567FA0?diaryId=6040


This story has been reiterated on MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olberman and Huffington Post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/29/former-bush-ai...

A dollar short, and a few thousand bodies too.

I don't totally despise the guy like I did before, but he's got a few more acts of contrition to complete before he gets into my pearly gates. And maybe build a few homes for the homeless or something like that.

NOW, telling the truth AFTER the fact makes you a hero. What a great country no?

build a few homes for the homeless in Iraq.

As it stands now he has likely lost all of his old friends and some very powerful people are undoubtedly working to make his life miserable. I doubt there is too much of an upside to coming clean other than to clear his conscience.

I don't think anything will happen to him, but looking at what happened to the DC Madam it could be a concern.

to proclaim a Republican who has a sudden revelation (or find advantageous financially to tell the truth) a hero.

First, McClellan continue to say that Bush is a good and honest guy (just mistaken and misled by the bad Cheney). Second, he is still a Republican with all his wrong ideas. And third, it would have been a lot better for everyone else if he had quitted whenever he realized the truth.

Sorry Scottie, you knew and did nothing until now...think how many lives you might have saved.

A hero is one who does a thing despite any painful or personal danger. He waited until he was out of danger then took a shot across the bow of his betrayers. That, IMHO, is not courage or heroism. It's doing the right thing but it seems rather ordinary. He did a great service to this country and for that i admire him. I just make the distinction.

First of all if he new that the work up to the Iraq war false how could you stand idly by and say nothing.
I could for one never live with myself I am trying to understand but after a lot of thought I still think he is no better than Bush himself. He talks about how he hoped Bush would change Washington knowing all along the Bush was leading our men and women into a unjust war. I glad he came out with his story and of course I do believe his story I for one new all along that we went to war on a lie. I sit back though and wonder if he is doing it for the money or doing to clear his conscience?

How many kids died cause he didn't.

American hero - There are commanders that resigned over this mess -they are heros.

I don't confuse the two.

He's a slimy opportunist.

at least he didn't wait until after the election. (...although I also would have liked for him to have spoken up sooner.)

(Remember that he claimed that the rush to war was full of lies. This was before 2003. It was when he should have spoken).

and it will hopefully hurt McCain.

McClellan is the first successful deprogrammed cult member from the Bush White House. I am with you, I applaud him too.

Leave it to the media to make a self-serving opportunist (hell, the media's full of them) into something that he's not.

Then why didn't he speak up way back when!

You know how many of our kids died since then???

And for an explanation of what the BFEE means, go to the DU Glossary, here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_oet&address=358x190

I judge no one.

But kids died - if he knew better - for christ sake, why duidn't he speak up - all I ask.

who knows why he didn't earlier, he very well may not know himself. The important part is he is now. And yes in my book he is a Hero.

Not sure if he's a hero or not since that's not a label I easily give someone.

But he colluded with these people for years and took part in thier war crimes.

I think everyone should go out and get his book at the liberary.

A hero would have refused to lie for them in the first place. A hero would have put his country in front of a cabal of lunatics and prevented an illegal war.

Scotty the Duck ain't nobody's hero.

:yourock:

The enthusiastic primary propaganda tool for the cabal, knowingly telling lies for years, therefore complicit in war crimes.

:applause: I applaud Scott ,it did take guts.-- besides, he probably needs some new friends :hug: :kick:



:patriot: Phill Donahue-MSNBC fired Donahue less than a month before "Shock and Awe".

:patriot: Peter Arnette-fired by NBC ,days after the war began-- interview on Iraq TV.

:patriot: Ashley Banfield, (911 star reporter) fired after speaking out against the war.

:patriot: Montel Williams- Montel's long running (17 years)
Show was canceled-- after Fox News interview .


THOUGHT CONTROL:Sell War Or Pay Consequences-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYQ3w53bq_s

but let's not jump the gun too much here. As far as that boy's concerned, he's on a very narrow line and he's got aLOTTa splainin' to do.... as far as I'M concerned. I'll wait to see what his motives truly are before I call him any kind of hero.

Ya know I just don't trust ANY of these people any more.. NONE of em..

there is no way to put the gennie back in the bottle.

spent years praising a fellon.
Now the fellon is hated,
so Scott attacked him- belated-
and the left shouldn't buy what he's sellin.

of Scott the messenger when the message he has just brought out is invaluable in the fight to
wrest control of the Government from the wild eyed Neocons that have been in charge for too long?

It leads me to believe that there are almost as many Republicans as Democrats posting on this board.

Why else would they say everything possible to weaken the testimony that has been given in McClellan's book?

He may have lots of bad characteristics but he is the FIRST insider to step up tell us what is going on in the Bush White House. Let's take that windfall and use it for the good of America.

If the economy wasn't faltering, if Iraq wasn't a total clusterfuck, and if Bush was anywhere near 50% approval do you think McClellan would have even released this book?

Here's a hint....not just "no" but "fuck no".

The book came out because he'll make money off it, not because of any deep rooted conviction he has experienced since his days in the White House.

if he is a jerk. All that matters is that the information in his book might help us boot Bush and his fellow crooks out and make them pay. I don't care about McClellan or his motives.

who sucked bush ass and touted their lies and propanda when it suited him, then decided to tell all ONLY WHEN HE COULD MAKE MONEY OFF IT. HE CAN ROT IN HELL.

But the brunt of We The People can be far worse. From what I understand Gonzo still hasn't found a job. He may have to pen a tell all book or go on welfare. Right now. I think that is the only job open to him on the entire planet.

"I'm happy that you've made the statement. But I cannot agree with most of my colleagues. See, I don't think an adult of your intelligence should be commended for simply, at long last, telling the truth."

I'm also happy that McClellen has come clean. But he is NOT a hero. Heroes take risks. McClellen is choosing this moment to tell the truth, the moment when there are no risks and no consequences to fear, and on top of that, in a way to make money. I'm glad his testimonial is part of the record and national discussion, but at the end of the day, Scott McClellen can rot in hell with all the other powerful criminals who made it their daily business to bankrupt our nation, enrich the wealthy elite at the expense of the working class, poison our land, air, and water, and start a war with lies that has murdered and maimed hundreds of thousands of innocent human souls. Thank you, Scott, but still, fuck off.

:wtf:

Sorry, but a criminal with blood on his hands who confesses is NO hero, but rather just another sociopath who is covering his a$$.

My gawd, I think I've seen it ALL now here on DU!

Is this even DU anymore with posts like this?! :puke:

I think Bushco had already abandoned him for whatever reason. There's probably a lot more to come out regarding this. I think all of this is a good sign that Rove, and maybe others are going down.

Surely they see what is happening also? If Scotty was out of the "real" loop, then why would Dana Perino and Ari Fleischer think they would be "in the loop"??

To FINALLY tell the truth, after truly countless lies?

If your kid lied to you for years, and at last told you the truth -- would you then look upon them as a "hero", would you be glad they finally admitted the truth and consider those lying years "heroic"?
Sure, you'd be glad s/he finally came clean; but HEROIC?!

Just because McClellan FINALLY did what he should have done all along does NOT give him "hero" status.
Is lying through your teeth (I don't buy for one second 'he didn't know') "heroic", even if finally admitting the truth?
Especially when, mind you, it is impossible to view what he said as anything BUT a pack of lies!
Now, it's just trying to weasel out.


Calling him a hero is insulting to true heroes.


Additionally, his half-hearted admittance now does not wash the blood of over a million Iraqis and Americans from his hands.

If he had stood up for the truth then, fine: Heroic

Although I'd still be hard pressed to put it in that category, telling the truth is not normally Heroic. Among true Heroes are those of the White Rose Society who were beheaded by the Nazis for daring to speak the truth

--does McClellan fall into that category? Even if he told the truth back then?

Now? No fucking way.



***EDIT: And most of those killed in The White Rose were barely out of their teenage years!

To tell the truth when it really counts would be a something to say. I don't think what this guy is doing now is anything but a hero.

Fuck Him.

and now he said he is willing to testify
our side needs to start laying off this guy - he could be very useful

"Hero" may be a bit much, but I applaud his coming forward. It will be interesting to see where he goes from here.