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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:33 AM Original message |
I'm very impressed at how effective this flu pandemic threat is at pacifying a population. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:39 AM Response to Original message |
1. Hong Kong. What else is new? |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:40 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. We'll see. |
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Jeep789 (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Actually, it is here too |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:47 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Sounds like they had a common-sense-ectomy. |
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Jeep789 (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:54 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Common sense is easily trumped by fear, |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:56 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Yeah, all those idiots who thought the Y2K "bug" was going to shut the world down. |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 07:54 AM Response to Reply #8 |
19. While some things about Y2K were indeed overhyped... |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #19 |
30. Well said. nt |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #19 |
34. hear hear! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #19 |
45. That wasn't my point at all, though. I know how much work went into Y2K, I was in government at the |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. Just for fun.... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Ha -- you need to retool that to the SWINE FLU BLUES!!! |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. It would even have that "flu-blues" internal rhyme! |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 07:11 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. We've been through this in HK - SARS in 2003 - and still the fear takes over. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:57 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Yes, shutting down for a week may well stop more getting flu |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 07:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Those little farts will go to the movies and get reinfected. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 07:17 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Do you want them to "use abundance of caution" or not? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 07:33 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. A mall is an excellent place to spread infectious diseases, too. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 08:04 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. No, because they develop symptoms a day after starting to be infectious |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 08:20 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. What ever happened to "use your own good judgment?" |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 08:36 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. "arcades the kids go into" |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 09:12 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. They have wii-type crap in there now, and driving games, and guitar hero. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 09:36 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. No, it says nothing about 'longer incubation' |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 04:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
49. Your cite says they can be infectious BEFORE symptoms develop, though. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 05:17 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. 'remain' means after the symptoms have started. They have used 'remain' for that period already |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. I continue to feel that you're mistaken about this. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. But they won't be put into a room with 30 other people for hours |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 07:18 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. I'm guessing more people stroll through malls than through schools |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
37. Of course, by the time a person shows symptoms of the illness, he will have |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. And that's my point. You can't avoid it by avoiding people who look well, either. NT |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. I was agreeing with you and adding back up. nt |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. I know--Thank you! nt |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:42 AM Response to Original message |
3. In Japan, my nephew has a fever and almost all hospitals told him not to come there. |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:45 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. What do you think that means? |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 04:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
56. This is why most big hospitals |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:57 AM Response to Original message |
10. Limbaugh is impressed too.. along with all the paranoid "don't let Obama |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 07:10 AM Response to Original message |
12. "Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the U.S. media." - Chomsky |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #12 |
31. That's a GREAT quote |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Ole Uncle Chomsky's likely used it numerous x since the 1960s |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Of couse I'm familiar with him |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 06:55 AM Response to Reply #41 |
77. "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously" |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 09:12 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Thanks |
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Mark Twain Girl (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
42. A quote that says it all. nt |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 09:30 AM Response to Reply #12 |
80. Yup. (n/t) |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 07:12 AM Response to Original message |
14. we need to do this every year---"36,000" die each yr in the usa |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 07:35 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Eh, they were OLD, you see. Who cares about those OLD people? |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
17. Within the context of this thread. |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
20. So the logic here is that because just a thing could be used to pacify... |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 08:06 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. No, that wasn't my point. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 10:26 AM Response to Reply #22 |
33. People do not "passively accept" the measures. They actively demand them. |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
24. The "feel ill, stay home" is nice advice for those who can do it. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 08:51 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Sorry but I don't agree. When you go to work you INFECT OTHERS |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. It's nice to be moralistic, but in reality there are people who have no choice. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. There is always choices, it's the foundation of ethics |
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TheMachineWins (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. We live in a country that tortures and doesn't hold them accountable |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 05:09 AM Response to Reply #44 |
74. That is an illogical and irrational argument. One I will not entertain |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 05:16 PM Response to Reply #38 |
59. But going to work sick, and infecting potentially many others thereby causing THEM to miss work |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:09 AM Response to Reply #24 |
72. I wrote my critter and pointed out we need single payer |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
26. Public Health has always had extraordinary powers when it comes to quarantine |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
32. This your first brush with Asia and possible pandemics? |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. I've been living in Hong Kong since 1993 and through SARS. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
39. i think you raise an interesting point given the vacuum of leadership in HHS; and legacy Bush hacks |
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TheMachineWins (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
43. 1 step away from putting people in camps |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
47. Nothing but a net, and your fear to sell. |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #47 |
58. I thought I was promoting the rejection of fear not selling it. |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
48. Look how well 9/11 did! |
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Dark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
50. Umm, you do realize that Hong Kong is part of China now? |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. I've been living in Hong Kong for 16 years and there's no way you can call it a police state. |
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Dark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 12:18 AM Response to Reply #55 |
67. But China is. And they control it. So they can do whatever they want to Hong Kong and people in it. |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:03 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. No they can't. |
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Dark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 04:26 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Umm. Hong Kong is the property of China. That's a fact. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
61. Hong Kong is not in America. nt |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 05:58 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. It's good we got that sorted out. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
66. The powers that be know how to control the masses-fear does it every time. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
68. One observation for you, or maybe two |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:01 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Did you accidently reply to the wrong thread? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:05 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Fear control population |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 05:28 AM Response to Original message |
75. Hong Kong got hit pretty hard by SARS |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 06:41 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Yes, true, but my point is that this can happen anywhere and people would accept it. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
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