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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:50 PM
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omg poor Cokie Roberts
this is almost unfair! :rofl:

http://www.slate.com/toolbar.aspx?action=print&id=2216890

Each Monday, NPR Senior News Analyst Cokie Roberts trades four minutes of on-air blather about politics, the economy, and world events with whichever unlucky Morning Edition host has drawn the short straw.

If Roberts' vacuous segments seem phoned-in, it's probably because they are. She does them from her home. In 2000, she told the New York Times that her "dog barking during a show" presented the "biggest problem" doing the early-a.m. spot, adding that her pup's NPR airtime had made him "something of a cult figure."

If only the dog barked a little more—the segment might have more going for it. I can think of no comparably sized media space that's as void of original insight and information as Roberts'. Her segments, though billed as "analysis" by NPR, do little but speed-graze the headlines and add a few grace notes. If you're vaguely conversant with current events, you're already cruising at Roberts' velocity. Roberts doesn't just voice the conventional wisdom; she is the conventional wisdom. Give a listen to her March 9, 2009, chatter:

Some say the president is doing too much, what he's doing too much about things they don't necessarily want him to do right now—healthcare, education, energy. And they're worried that he's using this crisis for big changes that they don't want. And, of course, that is the case. The administration will try to do that. But they go between saying that he's a socialist, and the president did seem to feel the need to call a New York Times reporter after an interview this weekend to say he's not a socialist. And the Republicans are saying he should—some Republicans—that he should nationalize the banks. So it is, you know, it is all over the place.

And then some say he should be doing more. Others say he's mortgaging our children's future. So I think that they're just trying to get their voices out there, mainly trying to drown out Rush Limbaugh's voice as the voice of the Republican party.


If you can find an original thought in there, you're welcome to it.

Don't despise Roberts' journalism just for what she says but for how she says it. The most irritating of her collection of tics is declaring a specific news topic "interesting," "very interesting," or "really interesting." Yet her declarations almost never signal the approach of anything notable: It's her way of squid-inking the waters so she can say something completely superficial and escape before the listener can think it though. Examples:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:51 PM
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1. Hey! Back off! It's tough living in the Chevy Chase mansion you grew up in! nt
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:51 PM
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2. Yep. I'd much rather listen to the dog for 4 minutes than Cokie Roberts.
Hands down.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:54 PM
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3. And she draws a regular paycheck for this
Don't you wish you were Cokie Roberts?
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 12:50 AM
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48. Hugh Downs was paid over $20M a year for flying in to NY once a week
and spending 2 - 3 hours in studio taping intros.

And "our" congress raised the minimum wage to a whopping $7.25?

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:56 PM
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4. "and some say" -- the ole Bush work-around to make strawmen seem credible
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 12:34 AM
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47. Jebus, she's still using that tired old prop? "Some People Say" she should have given it up.
The tortured souls of all prior newsmen and women - the ones who earned the title - are waiting for her with tar, feathers, pitchforks and fact-checkers, or so I've heard from reliable sources inside the Administration.

Seriously Cokie, what it really worth it? What did you get for your journalistic integrity?
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snowdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:57 PM
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5. It is interesting that the president...............



...........The administration will try to do that. But they go between saying that he's a socialist, and the president did seem to feel the need to call a New York Times reporter after an interview this weekend to say he's not a socialist.............






:smoke:
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:58 PM
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6. She had an insane animus against President Clinton
f- her.
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:58 PM
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7. And her book, Founding Mothers, was crap
I wrote better pieces while working for my history degree than that waste of trees book.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 03:59 PM
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17. *cough* ghost written *cough...cough*
Seriously it is.
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 09:49 AM
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54. Well I hope she didn't pay someone to do that.
She probably got a business major to do it. No self-respecting history student would put their name on it.

And I mean no disprespect to business majors. There is a lot involved with researching historical themes that they don't teach you in business school.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 01:11 PM
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57. Well having known a few
I find most Business majors more schooled in a single ideology with little thought to contextual frames and even less concern with primary sources that contradict their viewpoint. At absolute best they seem to be more concerned with a History channel education.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 06:46 PM
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31. "We Are Our Mother's Daughters and Ladies of Liberty"
She's bouncing around the country promoting the 10th Anniversary edition which has been updated to include Nancy Pelosi and Laura Bush. I never read the first edition. Doubt I'll read the 20th Anniversary edition.

She's one of those reporters who do well in one medium but not another. Of course she's still looking for a medium to do well in. Maybe she should try blogging?
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 07:45 PM
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37. I laughed my ass off this morning at how stupid that title is: "We Are Our Mother's Daughters"
I dread Mondays solely due to her. When I gave NPR part of my tax rebate check last year, I told them I'd appreciate it if they turned Cokie out to pasture. Ugh.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 03:00 PM
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8. I gave up on Cokie during Campaign2000 when she "reported" on Bush's "charm offensive"
Haven't listened to her since...
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 08:51 PM
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41. Well, she got the offensive part right, give her a break! nt
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 09:06 AM
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51. Drop the "C" and we have his foreign, domestic, economic, health, and education policies! (nt)
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 03:01 PM
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9. Cokie's penetrating analysis is just too deep for me to fathom
:P
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 03:06 PM
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10. I turned her off sometime in the 1990s
Around the time Lorena Bobbit cut the prick's dick off. I remember because Cokie laughed at all the males who were squirming and wincing in their seats. Soon thereafter I stopped watching her, but not for that reason. I just thought I'd mention something we thought we'd forgotten. That's what I always think about whenever the subject of Cokie comes up.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 03:09 PM
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11. She ought to marry David Broder, and they can honeymoon in that unAmerican location, Hawaii.
Two more boring and predictable people are hard to find. Their morning conversation over coffee would put both back to sleep.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 03:15 PM
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12. the Dean and the Doyenne of the punditocracy
they could play "Bill and Monica" sex games. Tweety could watch. :thumbsup:
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 03:18 PM
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13. I'm not sure that twosome could get Tweety's leg to tingle.
He would probably fall asleep, too.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 10:27 PM
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45. The comment about Obama's Hawaiian vacation being exotic will follow her to the grave.
That was unbelievably revealing about her mindset, and the way she tries to pander to the idiocracy.

Media Matters:
On the August 10 (2008) edition of ABC's This Week, ABC News political analyst Cokie Roberts criticized Sen. Barack Obama -- who was born in Hawaii -- for "going off this week to a vacation in Hawaii," which she said "does not make any sense whatsoever." Roberts stated: "I know his grandmother lives in Hawaii and I know Hawaii is a state, but it has the look of him going off to some sort of foreign, exotic place." Roberts continued: "He should be in Myrtle Beach, and, you know, if he's going to take a vacation at this time."
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 03:18 PM
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14. The big news is
Cokie doesn't have a dog. That noise you hear is just one of her personalities.

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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 06:42 PM
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29. LOL. Maybe Rush isn't real; maybe she's Rush! Gotta wonder wonder what else is hiding in there. nt
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 03:22 PM
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15. Is it me or a lot of so-called journalist these days children of wealthy parents that couldn't
get a real job? I do think there is some hope for Anderson Cooper.
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 03:22 PM
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16. I remember listening her decrying the greed of the UPS drivers during their
strike back in 90-whatever it was. Yes, Kookie, they all phone it in from their mansions . . . oh wait, that's you.

And just the other day I heard her talking about how Obama has too much on his plate already and he wants all this torture stuff to just go away.

Really? How does she know that? Maybe, she just wants it to go away?
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 04:19 PM
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18. kookie
went to the dark side of ABC mickey mouse gnews. i don't listen to her anymore.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 04:23 PM
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19. nothing like phoning it in, huh? nt
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 04:24 PM
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20. Not only the silverest of spoons
but her brother heads one of the biggest DC lobbying firms, Patton Boggs. She's not an apologist for the Establishment, she IS the Establishment.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 06:35 PM
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27. And don't forget her parents...
Both of them tied into the Lousiana political machine which changes parties according to which party is the most corrupt and therefore the easiest to use as a source of "supplemental income" as both a politician and as a lobbyist which in Lousiana is usually the same thing.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 04:24 PM
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21. ANy one who thinks Cokie is part of the "conventional wisdom"
. . . is really part of the beltway bubble.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 04:25 PM
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22. She's Dreadful
sends chills up my spine when I hear her voice and dribble.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 04:25 PM
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23. I'm sorry, she's done enough good commentary in the past, that I'll give her
a pass here. I like Cokie. :shrug:
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 06:48 PM
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32. I despise her.
She is a child of wealth and privilege that never lifted anything heavier than a fork in her life.

Her political commentary is sophomoric and pedantic, at the very same time. She defends the power structure of the Old Guard at every turn, no matter what the issue.

She would be a Tory defending the rights of royalty and decrying the rebels as scum, in a previous life.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 07:15 PM
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33. Oh, please. The Boggs from the bogs?
Edited on Mon May-04-09 07:23 PM by Baby Snooks
Beneath the appearance of old Lousiana elegance she's just plain old Louisiana swamp trash. The Boggs from the bogs as they were called.

Her father opposed desegregation and opposed the Civil Rights Act. He changed his positions only because it was politically advantageous to do so. Only because the Civil Rights Act had been passed and signed into law. That of course changed Louisiana politics. A number of Republicans decided to become Democrats. For the votes of the new voters.

Someone once commented that Tom De Lay was the Republican equivalent of Hale Boggs. That probably sums up Hale Boggs better than anything else.
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 07:37 PM
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36. Not quite. On her mother's side she's descended from
William CC Claiborne, the first American governor of Louisiana. I can't speak about the Boggses, but the Claibornes are bona fide plantation gentry.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 09:39 PM
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42. The Claibornes
The official bios claim everyone loved William CC Claiborne but not everyone did. Under the new governor of what would eventually become the new state of Louisiana what were known as "free blacks" suddenly were no longer so free and slaves, who had some rights such as the right to inherit and own propery under what was known as the Code Noir, suddenly found they no longer had any rights at all and weren't free either.

The Claibornes are a prominent family particularly with regard to the settlement of the colony of Virginia and also a large family. Among Cokie Roberts' various cousins are Liz Claiborne and the late Claiborne Pell. They were landed gentry in Virginia. And then they lost the land.

She's also related to the de Marigny family through the marriage of William CC Claiborne's daughter. The de Marignys were one of the wealthiest of the French families that settled in New Orleans.

I may be wrong but I believe much of the land her family has was given to them by the de Marignys including the plantation where her mother was born. In any case, the Claibornes of Lousiana did indeed become landed gentry again. If you want to call plantation owners landed gentry.

Prominent is not always illustrious. Among the various Claibornes she's also related to is William Floyd Claiborne. Also known as Billy the Kid.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 08:34 PM
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40. I've heard some pretty good analysis from her of the congress in the past
on NPR and I kind of like her breezy style. I don't care if she was raised in privilege.


Suum quique.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 05:12 PM
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24. I heard her this Monday and was wondering why they still bothered putting her on the air.
Her airtime is a total waste.....
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 05:39 PM
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25. she also got caught faking a report from capitol hill
late 90's, she had her winter coat on, but she was standing in front a green screen with the capitol in the background in the studio.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 06:39 PM
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28. that's hilarious
so every time the Daily Show does that, they're making fun of her? :rofl:
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 10:21 PM
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44. founf a link from 2000
not late 90's as i thought but 1994. "green screen" technology hadn't been invented yet!


Network news has flirted with similar technological issues once before. In 1994, the use of a fake backdrop caused an outcry in 1994 when the ABC journalist Cokie Roberts appeared in front of a picture of Capitol Hill. Peter Jennings, the ABC News anchor, introduced a report from Ms. Roberts, and said that she was reporting from Capitol Hill; Ms. Roberts, wearing a coat, appeared in front of what looked like the Capitol. But without the knowledge of network viewers or even Mr. Jennings, Ms. Roberts was actually inside the ABC News Washington bureau with a photographic image of the Capitol projected behind her. Ms. Roberts and Rick Kaplan, then the executive producer of ''World News Tonight'' and now the president of CNN, were both reprimanded and the network apologized on the air.

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/01/12/business/on-cbs-news-some-of-what-you-see-isn-t-there.html?sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 06:24 PM
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26. richly deserved.
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nostalgicaboutmyfutr Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 06:44 PM
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30. How do you get a nickname 'Cokie'?? EOM
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 12:56 AM
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49. Her full name
is Martha Mary Coreen Morrison Claiborne Boggs Roberts.

Her brother Tommy Boggs couldn't say "Coreen," so it came out "Cokie" instead.

She'll be 66 right after Christmas.
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 07:27 PM
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34. All she ever does is repeat conversations she may have overheard
at some obscure cocktail party with the rest of the "c" list in DC.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 07:34 PM
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35. The "C" list?
Edited on Mon May-04-09 07:36 PM by Baby Snooks
As far as I know she's never been on the list that matters which is the list in Georgetown. Neither has her brother. I repeat conversations I heard too. The difference I heard them. Maybe NPR should hire me?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 07:47 PM
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38. *Hic* radio is a great business- in radio no one can smell the gin
:beer:
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 07:50 PM
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39. She used to do very good analysis, imo,
Edited on Mon May-04-09 07:51 PM by elleng
then her husband was shafted (sorry that I forget the facts) and kind of went into hiding. She got cancer, was treated, and now is what we hear. I'm sad about it, due to her great background.

PS, I live near Chevy Chase! LOVE to drive thru. and not many MANSIONS in the area; there are size restrictions due small size of the area generally. Sorry.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 09:57 PM
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43. Their column...
Edited on Mon May-04-09 09:58 PM by Baby Snooks
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 10:55 PM
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46. I remember her shortly after 9/11, on Leno or Letterman
She said, "the President's approval rating is 75%!", or WTF it was, and then she turned to the audience and egged them on to cheer that statement. Revealed her agenda in one cheapshot moment.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 01:28 AM
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50. The article speaks the truth. She says nothing about nothing
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 09:10 AM
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52. Cokie is the NPR equivalent of Andy Rooney.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 09:32 AM
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53. Shameless for the RW and has been for a long time.
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ksilvas Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 09:53 AM
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55. Daniel Shore, Juan Williams, and Cokie get them off NPR!
These people do nothing but regurgitate the news, they don't analyze jack.
Daniel Shore hasn't said one thing that wasn't blinding obvious to the most casual news geek,
in 20 plus years I've listened to NPR
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 09:58 AM
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56. Cokie Roberts, Welfare Queen
Someone made the decision to subsidize her sofa time. Perhaps the vapid nature of her "commentary" escaped notice by being no more so than the rest of her work.

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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 02:29 PM
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58. MWO pegged her seven or eight years back . . .
"Tired Old Whore".

Yep, that's about it.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 02:31 PM
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59. She's horrible.
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