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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 03:59 PM
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in the fuck arlen dept: Specter Wants Coleman To Win In Minnesota

By Eric Kleefeld - May 5, 2009, 4:19PM
Memo to Sen. Arlen Specter (RD-PA): You're supposed to be a Democrat now.

In an interview with the New York Times, Specter stated in no uncertain terms that he wants Norm Coleman to win the disputed Minnesota Senate race: "There's still time for the Minnesota courts to do justice and declare Norm Coleman the winner."

So what exactly are the Dems getting out of this whole deal?

Late Update: NRSC press secretary Amber Wilkerson gives us this comment: "First he voted against President Obama's budget, then he said he wouldn't be a loyal Democrat, now he wants Norm Coleman to win. We've never agreed so much with Arlen Specter. You just have to wonder whether Joe Sestak agrees with the positions of his fellow Pennsylvania Democrat?"

time to fuck arlen and fuck him good and hard. My first instinct waz thwt the little asswipe would be thorn in our side and there wasn't one damn thing to cheer in his self-serving switch.

I was right.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/05/specter-wants-coleman-to-win-in-minnesota.php

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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 04:02 PM
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1. I don't care what he says, I only care what he votes for.
He can blather on all he wants to the press about how independent he is, or how he straddles Democrat and Republican positions, but what really counts is how he votes in committee and Congress from now on. If his voting record doesn't change, then I say jettison him. If it does, fine; he continue to say stupid stuff as long as he votes the right way on bills.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 04:04 PM
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5. we've seen how the little fuck will vote.
time to kill off his dem senate career. he's slime. he always was.
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 04:07 PM
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10. Damn cali - I agree with you on something.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 04:11 PM
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12. Me three
Edited on Tue May-05-09 04:12 PM by peace frog
With DINOs like Specter, who needs Repukes. I say we toss the rat bastard back to the other side postehaste.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 05:32 PM
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21. Me Fore. nm
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 05:59 PM
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29. we have a quarrum
the motion carries. now all Pennsylvanians need to do is elect a decent Dem to the post...
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 04:12 PM
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14. fortunately it will easy to end Specter's career if he gets out of hand.
He won't stand up to a significant primary challenger, and with his career teetering on the brink as it is, it won't take Specter much to offend his supporters in the Democratic leadership the way he offends the Democratic grassroots.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 04:02 PM
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2. why didn't that dumb bastard just become an independent? nt
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 04:04 PM
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4. Apparently it does not work like that in PA
that is, if he wants to run again. They explained it last week.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 04:06 PM
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7. Not a viable option
for him in PE. He wouldn't have a chance at winning as an Independent and for Arlen this is all about winning.

I'm really getting sick of him. At first I was thrilled that he switched. Now I wish he'd just go away.

He seems to be a real attention whore and I hope the Dems run a viable candidate against him in the primaries.
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 04:02 PM
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3. it's all about entrenched Senate cronyism
the blur of party lines is no more apparent than in the Senate
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 05:33 PM
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22. I agree. Time to dump the antiquated Senate. nm
Edited on Tue May-05-09 05:33 PM by rhett o rick
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 04:04 PM
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6. I think it's a joke
here's the whole exchange:

"With your departure from the Republican Party, there are no more Jewish Republicans in the Senate. Do you care about that?

Specter: I sure do. There’s still time for the Minnesota courts to do justice and declare Norm Coleman the winner."

It sounds like he's replying to the question in a humorous fashion...maybe?
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 04:06 PM
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8. You're right
Given the context, it's quite possible it's a joke.

The problem with joking like that is that once it's in print, people can't see your facial expression or your rolling of the eyes. Just like in emails or posts on DU, where you have to put smilies or the little "sarcasm" thingie so people don't take what you say the wrong way.

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 04:11 PM
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13. If that's a joke, it's still based on a wish for Norm Coleman to win.
It's not a joke like someone sarcastically saying he hopes for Coleman to win.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 04:32 PM
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18. Even if that's a joke, the joke declares his belief that Coleman should win.
If he had said, "Hey, Norm Coleman might still win," that would have the same effect without declaring that it would be "doing justice" for Coleman to steal it.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 05:34 PM
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23. Yeah, funny funny. nm
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:00 PM
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30. I rather doubt it. A better joke would be ...
"I sure do. I've been talking with Russ Feingold about this problem, encouraging him to switch to the GOP. Russ is a problem-solver."

-- OR --

"I sure do. I've been having serious discussion with Lindsay Graham about this problem, encouraging him to convert to Judaism. Lindsay cares about the GOP."

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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 04:07 PM
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9. How many more do we have?
Look at what Judd Gregg just did.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 04:08 PM
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11. He'll need to sing another number for the audition
Edited on Tue May-05-09 04:21 PM by DFW
"I'm a Democrat who hates Democrats" was already sung by Zell Miller. Miller was badly out of tune as well.

When Al Franken takes his place in the Senate, will Specter shake his hand?

Specter must feel he has to sing his "independent" number a few times before fading from the headlines.
But if all he's going to do is say that the Republican Party has drifted too far to the right for him,
and then follow them rightward AFTER leaving the party, I'd say he's just a little confused about the
order in which he plans his actions. Someone should test him for Alzheimer's.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 04:13 PM
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15. precisely. we know this tune and we don't want to hear it again.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 04:14 PM
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16. WTF is our Party gaining by allowing this little magic-bullet shitbird in?
:wtf:

I don't get it.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 04:25 PM
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17. It is totally incredible that Obama, Biden and Casey (who else) would still
Edited on Tue May-05-09 04:25 PM by AlinPA
support him after his first week as a "Democrat".
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 04:33 PM
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19. Then we need to make it politically untenable for them to do so. nt
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 05:25 PM
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20. "Obama, Biden and Casey" along with many on this board. n/t
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 05:43 PM
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24. why quote the NRSC as they attempt to stir the pot?
They would love to see a primary fight, a nice bloody one that leaves disaffected lefties either not voting or voting for a Nader-type.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 05:46 PM
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25. I want him primaried. I detest, loath and can't stand the little ratfucker
and if he keeps this up, he damned well should be primaried.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 05:48 PM
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28. keeps what up? Joking about Jewish Republicans in the Senate?
I wanted him primaried from the start, but it's nice to come to your own decisions based on facts, rather than being played by Republicans and far lefters.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 05:46 PM
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26. from the TPM comments
"It's entirely clear, yes. I had no idea Coleman was Jewish. TPM got duped, and a lot of us, including me, were duped upon reading TPM."

In the future it would help to not automatically salivate when the RNSC rings a bell.

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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 05:48 PM
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27. I read somewhere Gibbs said Obama will support him no matter
what. I just find that hard to grasp.
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Hun Joro Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:14 PM
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31. I become increasingly convinced that Specter switched
as part of an effort to weaken the Democratic party. Sheesh.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:22 PM
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32. Arlen the Sphincter was just trying to break into a comedy riff. Just proves he ain't
worth a damn at two things.

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Danascot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 10:11 PM
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33. Re:Coleman
He's not good enough, He's not smart enough, and doggone it, people don't like him.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 10:57 PM
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34. We may need a Fuck Arlen Forum on DU before the end of the month
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pilsner Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 11:35 PM
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35. Arlen is 79 years old
What motivates a cancer survivor that age to run again? Fucking Retire Arlen, your time is up.

I think he's out to try to sabotage the Dem contol of government and should not be trusted in Caucus meetings, etc.

Wouldn't Sestak clobber Toomey, keystoners?
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 11:40 PM
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36. It doesn't matter what color chariot we root for, the emporer's name is still Corporus

AYYYIIIIEEE! ----> i'm running wildly to the middle
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